Riviera Line In The Fifties Switch Control?

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  1. drumsart

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    Hi,
    At certain points on the line, why are some of the switch controls placed on a button located on the track between the two rails?
    Thank you and Regards,

    Richard.
     
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    kilt46 Well-Known Member

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    I would read the manual to understand.
     
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    Any chance of a screen shot. I don't remember seeing anything of that sort.

    John
     
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    Are you talking about the 2D map where you push the button to change the points?
     
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    I had read it. I must have missed it. Perhaps you can enlighten me ;-)

    No, about the 3D view.
    Richard.
     
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    Downloading the DLC just now. Where exactly on the line does one find these?
     
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    Screenshot_Riviera Line in the Fifties_50.52812--3.59893_10-27-22.jpg
     
  8. drumsart

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    In lots of places...The photo was taken at Newton Abbot.
     
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    Yes I saw these. I believe these are part of the signaling used in normal UK traffic to send an alarm prior to the signal. AWS ramp. The fact that the railway track can be switched by clicking on it is something the DLC creators added in to make it easier.
     
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    You're right, I just wanted to know why, so it's actually an idea from the creator of the line. It's not a function that has anything to do with reality.
     
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    Not quite.
    In the old days points were worked by levers in the Signalboxes that moved point rodding to the points.
    Each set of points that could have a passenger train working over them had to be locked with a Facing Point Lock (FPL)
    The Great Western had wooden ramps protecting these FPS from damage bay a train.
    What you see is a visual representation of the cover
    groundsig34.jpg

    groundsig35.jpg

    point cover.jpg
    Peter
     
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    One wouldn’t expect to switch the rail by pressing down on it though? Also I heard AWS alerts in the steam train I was operating.
     
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    They are not AWS ramps - they are covers for the mechanically-worked facing point lock apparatus which could otherwise be seriously damaged by hanging couplings. This is something rarely modelled in Train Simulator.

    If you want to nit-pick they are slightly ahead of the correct position and should be right at the end of the point blades.

    You can see one in this photograph:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/loose_grip_99/144616466

    John
     
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    The GWR version of AWS was called ATC (Automatic Train Control) and looked like a section of rail in the centre of plain track
    https://mysite.du.edu/~etuttle/rail/atcgwr.htm
    In the game it it looks like an ATC ramp & works the same as AWS and even sounds the horn/bell on modern traction
     
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