Upcoming Release First Ever Netherlands Route, Coming Soon!

39,99€? Ouch...

 

It looks really good, price was a jumpscare though. I guess that’s a result of building a whole new country.

 

Really nice route, won't play it as much but once I have the netherland vibes, I will reconsider

 

Waaw, 40 EUR? Is that the new standard price for route DLC's? This hobby is getting very pricy indeed.

 

It's a strange feeling, but I changed my mind about buying it right away, let's look at the reviews after the release

P. S. How much will it be in rubles? DTG again ignores Russian-speaking TSW players

 

SNG Sprinter has vmax 160 kph? anyway, as I want to learn new stuff, will buy it as soon as I can save moneys for it

 

By that logic they're also ignoring japanese, turkish, polish, romanian players... and the list goes on.
Also, you can easily ask www.google.com how much 39,99€ is in rubles. No need to blame DTG, as they only listed the what I think are the most used currencies, which are also from the areas where the majority of TSW's playerbase comes from.

 

Ever since dovetail direct in August I’ve been more excited for this route than any other. Really glad it’s nearly ready

 

All hobbies are expensive.

 

well, an internet saying is due here "Teach your kids to love *insert a hobby* and they will never be able to afford *ehm, cookies*"

 

Dang it, €39,99... this must be a high quality route in order to justify the high price, like WCMLOS and Mittenwaldbahn were...

 

this will also be the first route with Dutch signalling and such, so I guess it wasnt easy to get right... will see upon release

 

The SNG, like some other Dutch train sets may have a vmax of 160 km/h, but the ATB signaling system limits all trains to 140 km/h max.

 

The video en the screenshot look amazing. I recognize so many typical Dutch things. Looking forward to it. Day one purchase for me, and that's a rare thing.

 

dunno what will be the case in this iteration of the route tho

 

Sticker shock

$44.99!! This will confirm my suspicion. DLC prices will now regularly top $50 with tax. This is over my red line and I will wait for a sale, unless there is a prerelease discount.

 

Hopefully, a Dutch route with the Flirt 3 and/or GTW will come, which can serve as AI trains to give Zwolle and Groningen a busier feeling.

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Still looks very nice and intriguing to me, this route... but not at that price. Well, guess I'll wait for a sale, then
This rather steep increase in DLC pricing lately begins to worry me.

 

Everyone who said they wouldn't raise DTG standard quality routes to £33 look a bit daft now.
Stop buying these increased priced routes at full price. Once they realise they're not selling at the new price, they'll revert back. £30 for a DLC is already a very high premium price

 

Looks really good overall! I'm excited for this one.

Though the snow effect on the tracks looks questionable. Why is the snow color mistmatched once again? And where is the effect that changes the terrain height with snow buildup? I thought this was supposed to be the standard since TSW3...


The freight layers are nice, but a bit too much is required for them. Well I'll see if I feel like getting them.
I assume we don't need all of them for all the layers, right? For example the static Falns wagons will show up even if I only have the 155?

As for the price, I don't mind if the quality is right. We'll see from the preview stream hopefully if it's worth it. But for the higher price maybe we could've had some repainted freight rolling stock included so we don't need to layer all of them in from other german add-ons?

 

Yes! Looking forward to getting it!

But that continous mourning about the prices is already somewhat annoying...

 

This one looks amazing! Great job, nice details included. I hope you guys got the audio right. The ICMM has some great sounds in reallife

 

Normally I'm not so keen on reacting on this forum (just lurking). But I feel like doing so right now as two things don't match up (especially regarding the high price, ouch)

- The display on the side of ICMm has a font that is way too big (and is not the right one). So I really hope that Dovetail is still developing and is showing 'Work in Progress' here.For example, the one with the two coupled units near the water, clearly shows 'Rotterdam Centraal' not fitting on the screen. Whereas in real life it fits perfectly and is displayed as Rotterdam on the first line and Centraal on the second.

- Nice as a gimmick, but the DB G6 is not appropriate in the Netherlands. I asked a friend of mine working at DB in the Netherlands (and Onnen) and according to his readings the G6 is not operated by DB in the Netherlands.

I really was looking forward to this one, as it looked like all the details were added. And apart from the lack of Arriva trains in both Groningen and Zwolle (which make Groningen look really empty) I was planning on buying this day one.

Now i have the feeling that i should reconsider and wait to see what the first reactions are (and if the bug with the destination screen is fixed or not)

 

Almost as annoying as consumers raising the prices for everyone by blindly buying everything no matter what

 

well, can you blame ppl for wanting to get their hands on new routes and locos to play with, especially if it is some anticipated content? and y know, ppl arent hollow-headed, most ppl who play this game expect some bugs to happen, but they want to enjoy stuff, not immediately go into stuff like "omg something bad will be here"... ppl arent just some mindless zombies, y know?

 

This route only has a max line speed of 140km/h

Edit: for reference, though the map is a bit dated, you can check the map below in terms of what safety systems are featured where.
As you can see, this route only features ATB EG, which only goes up to 140.
ATB+, which enables speeds of up to 160km/h, is only present on the Schiphol Airport sections between Amsterdam and Den Haag (The Hague)

 

The £3 surcharge here is likely for the additional train. If this was WCMLS again that ICMM would be what, £15 extra?

Still though, DTGs content in general is far too causal and unpolished to be increasing pricing. I see people moaning about people questioning the pricing too, asif DTG hadn’t just dropped a price increase out of nowhere.

In any case I’ll look forward to the stream, glad to see another country & one with interesting rolling stock at that. Who knows, maybe this is where DTGs effort has been focused in place of other recent content.

 

This!

 

still a decent speed

 

I bet they did focus a lot on this, as it is new country and any upcoming Dutch content is pretty much dependent on the success of this one

 

like me when buying TSW 5 cos it had Frankfurt Fulda and the other two were decent as well... and yeah, I am still disappointed they havent sorted out that AFB bug on ICE-T (when AFB brakes for you under LZB, it locks throttle as if you braked manually), but I have learned to live with that and am still mostly satisfied with new content and routes... atm there is little better relax for me after work than firing up TSW and driving

 

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For that price I really do hope the scenery and issues with Cardiff are none existent on this route. Needs to be a solid offering IMO

 

Looks like you might be asked to pay even more for your next route as I'll be there day one buying it, but definitely not blindly, it's something I want to buy, so I guess I should be saying sorry??.......

 

You're still describing consumers. You know, people that will just buy anything no matter what the consequence.

I can afford the extra few quid if I wanted to, but this is principle now.

I'm genuinely interested. To those who didn't mind it going from £19.99 to £24.99 and then to £29.99 and now are OK with £32.99. What's the price needed for you to say enough? £40? £50? £60 or will you just buy these no matter what the price because you want to enjoy them now?

Businesses use the frog in the pan method because it works. They want the default price to be £39.99. But know even the biggest consumers will kick up a fuss at a 33% increase...

 

As long as you're aware you're a consumer, that's fine. I'll try and remember your name when standard routes are £39.99 and you're moaning. And yes, I'm the type to say 'I told you so'

 

One of the things I do notice, and like, both in the first look teaser video as well as in these screenshots, is the ground looking quite fluffy and diverse
That's promising, as this route does have some sections of only fields and trees for scenery, so it's important that the ground actually looks believable enough, unlike on some of the older routes especially.

Just wanted to highlight that, but the screenshots do make me optimistic

 

By the way, further analizing the requirements for the freigth layers, they don't seem to make much sense.

Like there is the Vectron and the G6, both only seem to be toying around with Zacns tank cars. The article says you need Dresden-Riesa for the Zacns tank cars, but why? Rhein-Ruhr Osten already features the Zacns cars, and you will need this route for the G6 anyway.

So Dresden-Reisa seems to be thrown in just to force another DLC requirement? Why not use the Zacns cars from Rhein-Ruhr Osten?

 

€40 is very reasonable for a complete new country with everything different. It also has two complete new trains and a 107 km long route.

 

Oh I won't ever be moaning, couldn't care about price, if it's something I want I will buy it, so 40 or 50 quid route, I'd still be there day one buying it if I wanted it, so sorry even more in advance I guess......

 

yep, some routes / locos I buy day one cos I anticipated em and want em, and for some, I can wait, I dont go blindly and buying everything cos I love DTG endlessly ... for me buying a game or a DLC here is more like a treat, and I dont shell money blindly

like, this month I have decided to pass on Mildmay Line and wait a bit, might also pass on Cardiff and buy it later, and only buy the Dutch route... as I have already spent some money on Diablo IV + DLC (which I have wanted for a long time)... and thats it... unless some extra financial influx happens, thats it for pleasure spending till next month's salary

 

Or all the new assets they had to make.

It really does look Dutch frim the video with alot of new assets as well.

 

DTG needs to reinstitute the 10% pre-release discount which they seem to have abandoned recently. That would reduce the price to under $50 and I might consider purchasing the route ( if the previews are exceptional. )

I'm wondering if this price increase reflects the fact that DTG is outsourcing its route building and therefore needs some extra cash to maintain profits. Just a thought, don't really know.

In general the downward trend in quality of recent routes like WCMLS was, and Cardiff threatens to be, does not justify a price increase at this time. When the core issues are dealt with and routes are polished for release, then they can think about adjusting for inflation. But not until customers, especially console players, but really all of us, can rely on a quality finished product.

 

All layers can be disabled at your own discretion

 

with new signalling and safety stuff as well

 

Whilst l agree with your sentiment. I buy for an 8th gen xbox and to get a sale is a rarity. If l want a route l have no option but to purchase it on release. I am a pensioner and feel the price asked is pretty fair for quality routes.

 

I’m conflicted regarding the price. Looking back at the existing add-ons priced at 40€ (Just Trains + TSG), the new Dutch route is the only one to include two completely new trains. Also gotta factor in the huge effort needed to produce so many new textures, models etc. for the first route in a new country.

But the 3rd party developers release one route every 1-2 years. They take a lot of time to get everything completely right. If we apply the same strict criteria to DTG’s new Dutch route, I’m not sure whether they can reach that level with their much shorter development cycle.

Making the first route in a new country so expensive also scares away many potential buyers. People aren’t just gonna “give it a chance” if it’s one of the three most expensive routes in the game. If I were DTG, I would’ve kept it at the regular price to entice more players to try Dutch content in general.

 

I understand your points and agree to some extend.

For me personally, I will get it full price, even if only to support the devs for doing Dutch content.
I do have a lot of content, but most of it, with some exceptions, at 50+% off. But for something like this, I will. Just like the Tadami line when it comes out.

However, I would also remind you that while I do agree on the base price, TSW has pretty frequent sales. Maybe not Euro Truck Sim frequency and drops, but still quite good.
And while the more expensive TSG/JT content seems to get much smaller sales, a lot of DTG-made content, including the better stuff, except the brand-new stuff, can still reach 50% off at times. At least more frequently than most games.

 

Also, both for DTG staff as well as non Dutch speaking people here. As a native Dutch speaker, small little correction on one pronunciation by everyone that irks my Dutch ears everytime

"Koploper" is better pronounced as something like: "Kop-low-purr"
My ears cry every time I hear "Koploppah"