This is a HUGE nitpick on my part. I noticed earlier tap on tap off posters, which only came into play last year. The route is set in 2022/23 Mix of eras anyone?
As well as Cathcart. The remaster is set in 2024, all the Class 314s, apart from one converted to a Class 614, were scrapped after withdrawal in 2019. A mix of eras isn't too bad, as long as it doesn't go over the top.
It's probably not. I struggle to remember a single route that had a measly 20 reviews on Steam after 3 days of availability. Even Fife Circle, similarly plagued by Rivet involvement, had 30+ at a similar point in time. Review counts aren't absolute measures of sold copies, but you can compare DLCs between each other and get a rough picture. What we're seeing, in my purely speculative opinion, is the fact that no one besides hardcore supporters is buying on day 1 anymore. I know I'm not. And if my opinion of the route (which is negative) has been cemented, why would I buy it on day 1? So that I could leave a negative review, and then refund? Nah, too much work. I'll leave my negative review when this thing is 60%+ off. Which is bound to happen soon enough.
just responding to the claims being made. Should’ve added “probably selling” rather than just selling. But steam doesn’t just make up the market anymore. It’s epic and both main console platforms. I do agree, though. I think my point was also mainly about the core demographic of people that are currently buying the DLC.
I am trying to use the 153 in free roam but after a while I encounter an issue with the interlocking holding the brakes on. This affects all units coupled to the affected 153(s) but when uncoupled then only affects the 153 as I am able to operate the 158 on it's own that was with the two 153s this last encounter. I tried resetting the simulation physics but it didn't make any difference. I have noticed the GKS indicator turns in the opposite direction to the GKS when the issue is manifesting but in the same direction in a working 153, irrelevant to which GKS is being used.
You can't disable the interlocking, only AWS/TPWS/DSD. I figured out something is causing door defects and while tinkering with the doors on an affected pair of 153s there was a sequence that seemed to fix it [key in to a guard's panel, open local door on the platform side, open all doors on that side, observe any doors that aren't open, close doors, close local door, key out, go to the door that did not open, key in to that guard's panel, open local, open all (platform side), check all are open, close doors, close local door, key out]. After that exact sequence the train was once again driveable.
Aware you can’t disable interlock - but I found having AWS on sometimes caused issues. that’s a weird one, will keep an eye out on it if I ever pick the route up again.
One thing about the 153 interior. The lights appear to show through the PIS screens. I’m sure this is probably a reflection issue more than anything.
You might want to avoid making personal remarks about another member's private life. If Vern were not so amiable, he might feel offended by such remarks. If I were the object of your snark, I would report you.
Loving the highland explorer livery someone has had a shot at making. Very difficult livery so good job!
So some are saying the 153 less then perfect figures. And i was just about to bite the bullet and buy it.I been asking for a 153 for years and now it's here but of course it have to arrive as a rolling mess.
In actual fact from what I've seen the 153 is the saving grace of the entire route and is built to a decent standard as are the sounds... But that doesn't cloud the fact the rest of the route is as dull as rain water in terms of what it could of been and suffering from quality issues. But that parts been discussed to death... It would seem that a fair amount of time and effort has gone into the 153 and it holds up well and the quality shines through... Why the bloody hell doesn't it have a route to match? It does give the impression that route itself and the 150 are from the same factory line, and the 153 from a completely different factory line... Whether there's any truth to that we will never really know. Very much like how the 390 is of a far superior quality to the 350... One feels built 'in house', the other feels a 'third party' build.
I just watched the DadRail video as (apart from the 50 second advert breaks) he is generally quite objective. He was only driving the 153 in his first clip, from Coryton to Penarth. I mean, yes the 153 doesn’t seem too bad and from the cab the scenery etc. looked just about passable. However the sticking point for me is this really is a diesel bus service. On the basis of what I just watched, then if this had been £20 for the two trains (bearing in mind one is reworked) and the route as is, or, it had included Barry Island and at least one of the full northern section Valley Line runs (maybe Rhymney) for £30, in either case a purchase might have drifted clear of my Steam Wallet. But, just like the Class 700 on SEHS, the Class 153 as it stands has no scope to show its full potential on this short all stops route. So despite the slight tingling in my fingers still going to wait for a sale, but maybe concede when it’s under £20 rather than under £15.
Yeah that's really annoying. It's as if it's an admin tool or a development feature has been left on. Really immersion breaking and bad for screenshots
Looks like I'm going the opposite way to many people here... Despite Rivet's past half-baked productions, I was one of those who was rather looking forward to the route and had it on my virtual wishlist since it was announced, regardless of how much mileage would eventually be included. Purchased it on release day, played for 40 minutes, then requested and obtained a refund from Steam (earning it the dubious honour of now being the only TSW UK DLC I don't own). I started off with the "Translator" scenario and within seconds I found that you can't use the first row of passenger seats on the 153, which didn't give me a great first impression, in addition to the various other issues with the 153. After completing that, I played a bit of free roam and discovered the widely-reported areas with the scenery that would make MSTS blush. This was already starting to feel like a deal-breaker for me, but then I encountered the "absolute bare minimum" approach to some of the stations which really broke the immersion. Hop to the other platform, seriously? Why even bother with that feature? To top it off, the next scenario I tried used the 150 and took place in the rain, rendering it unplayable since the wipers don't work on this unit. I have no problem with DLC getting minor updates a couple of weeks down the line to fix issues found and reported by the community, but clearly here a decision was made to release a product with weeks, if not months, of development and testing still left to go, fully aware that it wasn't up to standard. It seems I made the assumption DTG and Rivet had learned from past "mistakes" (in quotes because it's been the same story every time so far), particularly with all the rushed fixes they had to bring in for WCML-S and the Leven Line, but apparently they're going to continue with the same approach in releasing unfinished routes and stock and then fixing them up to the minimum acceptable standard once they see customers REALLY aren't happy. Future Rivet releases will be no-go or sale purchases for me. JB
It's very strange. I had it show up the first time i played the route, but not since. I wonder what triggers it?
So are the br153 issues based on the system it's on or is it ever version that has these mentioned issues?
I've had it show up every time. Though sometimes if your not looking directly at the train it'll disappear. Guard mode is horrible with it though.
The short length was a good enough indicator to me that there would be a lot of stop start runs. After all, 150s and 153s aren't generally long distance trains.
Well, 150s (referring to 2022-23 period) were also used on the Marches, while 153s on the Heart of Wales. I agree that they're quite uncomfortable on long distance runs! PS. I've a soft spot for TfW 158s... I hope they'll arrive, alongside a suitable route!
153s are also often used on the 2210 CRE-CDF. I had that shift 3 days in a row, it was diagramed as a 153, and run as one every day.
Literally all of TFW’s sprinter fleet can be made use of along the NWC, which I think should be the next Welsh route. For me CCN serves as nothing more than a pipeline to get some TFW stock, as a route in the scope DTG have gone with, it’s probably the worst part of the TFW network they could have gone for in terms of actually driving these trains. The 20 minute Crewe - Chester shuttle runs have more driving than CCN does. LLD-LLJ is probably the only thing that exists which could rival the short running of CCN. I get people like to be really defensive of DTG, but just making stuff up for them looks pretty daft.
From my former Wales and West days, the original plan was to deploy on branch services such as down to Pembroke Dock and in Cornwall, or to provide additional capacity by strengthening two car services. However it wasn't long before they were being deployed on Central Wales or Cardiff all the way down to Milford Haven. In fact use on the Valley Lines is probably a comparatively recent development. I know at the time, from a Control point of view we expressed grave concern about deploying a single car train with just one engine on long remote routes, where the nearest assisting train could be hours away. Compared to a two car power twin Class 101 or 108 with four engines, giving some measure of redundancy. However as usual, management knew best and they started popping up all over the place.
I can only hope they leave the north Wales coast line to JT, as we'd potentially only end up with a Chester to Llandudno route. JT would make a fine job of it where DTG would give it to 3rd developer to build.
Cardiff to Milford is still a very long run! We used to do one around 5am. Every single stop, including ninian park. By the time we got to Carmarthen on our way back for our break it was around 5 hours on one train!
Exactly the same happened with WCMLS didn’t it? You know there was a time when content like this was an exception to the norm, now I think that is being reversed with routes from JT and TSG being the exceptions to the norm.
I’m guessing this is nothing more than denoting the stock that typically serves the routes in the timetable.
Given other timetables have similar files, you're most likely correct. Or they may well have included the services in the timetable and put the paths in but without allocating any stock to them.
The 150’s cover the 67 allocation & the 231’s are covered by the 153 & 150. 197 is the same with 150’s doing those. Everything in that screenshot is already pathed & subbed in game.
