Ahs Class 373 Eurostar - Train Simulator 2024 (v77.6b)

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  1. wellington#9478

    wellington#9478 Member

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    It's funny how developers don't know how to fix their own product.



    With the fix it works on all versions above v72.3b.
     
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  2. USRailFan

    USRailFan Active Member

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    AFAIK the issue with the AHS 373 is on routes outside the AHS Channel Tunnel one?
     
  3. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    The issue with the AHS 373 is with the current version of TSC2024. It does not work on any route.
     
  4. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    If you look on the AHS Website you would see they have stopped with TSC and their products are now Freeware.
    Maybe they could not fix it.
     
  5. Elena

    Elena New Member

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    Not to be offensive at all, but AHS has done it before with the TGV Atlantique, there are bugs ; they dip, they come back. it's a vicious circle and a routine for them at this point to just leave when it becomes too "hard"
     
  6. BackdatedTrainsim

    BackdatedTrainsim Member

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    But what is the fix?
    Yes your video shows it working on 77.6b but how was it actually fixed?

    Not to sound completely dumbfounded but how is anyone supposed to take anything away from your experience if you say there's some magical fix in your video but keep it completely to yourself?
    What's to gain?
     
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  7. 85hertz

    85hertz Well-Known Member

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    Is this a fix you made yourself?
     
  8. Bekns

    Bekns Active Member

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    Hey All

    Im am trying to get this running on an older version of TSC using Spikee's method of installing previous versions, I can get them to run successfully but I cant get Ashford Lille to work, using Logmate it just keeps saying 'Failed to create instance of script'

    Has anyone had any success getting it to work in this manner, I have tried versions 72.3b and the one prior to that 72.0(something)
     
  9. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Although I could get the Eurostar working in V72.3 I don't have the Ashford - Lille route.
    Sorry.
     
  10. Kyle_Lennard1

    Kyle_Lennard1 Active Member

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    I think he is just showing off what he has done and keeping it for himself
     
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  11. wellington#9478

    wellington#9478 Member

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    A free patch is in WIP to fully operate the Lille - Ashford & Channel Tunnel Route with Class 9000 and Class 373 itself, but I don't know if it will be ready today, tomorrow, next week, next month or next year. The priority at the moment is another project with financial purposes.

    But there are always big babies crying who do nothing with their lives and spend all day wandering around.

    To conclude, I dared to do this patch because I like this route, I always watch videos and they AHS Railworks gave it to us for free now.
     
  12. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    With your patch I presume the 373 only works on the Ashford - Lille route with the TVM being different to DTG?

    At least with the other patch from BTS you can drive the Eurostar anywhere - it sees TVM on the routes so fitted.
    And it works very well and it less flaky than the default version where the voltage controls needed to be just in the right sweet spot.
     
  13. BackdatedTrainsim

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    Sorry I don't mean any offence.

    Was just because since I had spent time making a pack that runs the 373 model off a TGV Duplex script, I didn't want to find out that your solution was simple and elegant enough that I had effectively wasted my time trying an alternative.

    I'm a bit of a rubbish person really in that I take underachievement and making unnecessary work for myself very personally. But that's nothing to do with you.

    On the other hand I can't go back on what I've done so far as I've now got the attention of a european developer who wants to make new sounds for it if I introduce some new scripting features. :|
     
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  14. adreidbell

    adreidbell New Member

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    I used Spikee's method and have Ashford Lille route working on v72.3b -- perhaps you should download the route again, and re-install it.
     
  15. slenderman7676RBLX

    slenderman7676RBLX Active Member

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    I have an idea that might work assuming all developers can reach an agreement.
    What if you (And the sound dev) join forces with the creator of this fix? That way we might get the best.
    New sounds, liveries, original cab, potentially new features?
     
  16. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    And if you read the bit at the bottom of the first post you will see that won't happen - unless he gets Paid.
    As the Fix by Xavier (BDTS) works very well and so much better than the original AHS version is there much point?
     
  17. slenderman7676RBLX

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    Don't get me wrong, the BDTS patch is a good interim patch to at least make the 373 driveable again alongside the liveries but my big main gripe is having to use the Duplex cab model.
     
  18. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    What is wrong with the Duplex cab?
    It is similar to the Eurostar cab and the AWS works for those who run the Eurostar in the UK
    And it sees the TVM on HS1 and French routes - which the AHS version did not.
     
  19. wellington#9478

    wellington#9478 Member

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    Discarded recovery project, this guy ("enzobqt9688") did something much better than AHS, amazing, he can even sell his great work, the work is hard and deserves to be highlighted.



    On his YouTube channel has many other videos with details.

    https://www.youtube.com/@enzobqt9688/videos
     
  20. kilt46

    kilt46 Well-Known Member

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    Does he have any routes or just youtube?
     
  21. BackdatedTrainsim

    BackdatedTrainsim Member

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    He was co-creator of the Reseau Nord Pas De Calais route that you can get on RWCentral.

    This LGV Nord FR-BE-UK route he's been working on is a spinoff from that.

    I have gotten to know Enzo and he tested my 373 Mod Pack.

    You can follow progress here:
    https://www.rwcentral.com/topic/4986-lgv-nord-fr-be-uk/page/5/#comment-37496
     
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  23. Guglielmo ETR500/E373

    Guglielmo ETR500/E373 New Member

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    Hello everyone, it has been a lot of time. Any news about the tutorial for fixing the train? Thanks.
     
  24. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    You can download the version from Backdated TrainSim that is better than this version
    https://backdatedtrainsim.weebly.com/misc-downloads.html

    The features introduced by Version 2.0 are:
    • Brand new sound enhancement by Zema.
    • Script enhancements to control sounds and new features.
    • Repainted and modified TGV Duplex cab implemented.
    • Partial TMST multi-system control implemented for pantograph and speedometer setting.
    • Neutral section functionality.
    • Headlight and vent texture updates from Yann13.
    • New livery variations added:
      • GNER – no orange doors.
      • Eurostar E300 – with thanks to Enzobouquet.
    • Two scenarios
    This is now a very good unit and the sounds are very good

    Even if wellington#9478 was to release a patch it would still be the poor version of the unit with no DTG TVM

    Peter
     
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  25. toms87

    toms87 Well-Known Member

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    I am no Eurostar expert, but the Backdated Trainsim Version is an absolute banger... the original train and the enhancement pack are for free. I would advise everyone to go and grab it, while it´s hot.
     
  26. Guglielmo ETR500/E373

    Guglielmo ETR500/E373 New Member

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    I prefer the other version for the sounds and the liveries. I would suggest that one. The only annoying thing is that you must download the french DLC because they did want to use the TGV Duplex cab.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    The Backdated TrainSim version uses the same AHS coaches and it comes in the same liveries plus some extra ones.
    Have you listened to the sounds of the latest version? Much better than the AHS version
    Watch this and tell me the original version is better -
    You are still driving the AHS Eurostar but you are sat in a Modified TGV Duplex cab

    So the TVM works on DTG Routes such as Kent High Speed and LDG Med (Lyon to Marseille)
    And if you run it on a UK Route the Speedo shows MPH
     
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  28. USRailFan

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    What is this other version?
     
  29. BackdatedTrainsim

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    The original AHS cab is relatively low res and low poly and script-wise it would have taken myself more time than I would have cared to give to this project to fix the bugs it has been left with by default AND make it compatible with other TMST-suitable routes. With small mods to the TGV Duplex cab you get a long way closer to a TMST cab and really it does most of what users would want for a relatively uncomplicated drive.
    Given TSW users right now have to resort to a reskinned ICE or TGV Duplex, I think you can suspend belief for a moment with the cab appearance.

    As for the other points, I don't presume to think you're crazy but all I ask is you give my pack a chance before deciding that the original AHS version alone is the best. I hope at the very least the promotional video will convince you otherwise.

    Zema, who was responsible for the new sounds, works for SNCF at Le Landy and has had frequent contact with the TMSTs themselves on depot and in service. He knew precisely what he was doing.
     
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  30. 85hertz

    85hertz Well-Known Member

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    You did a brilliant job mate I and many others appreciate yours and Zema's work :)
     

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