Sorry just noticed I wasn’t replying to your message directly. Mate those wagons and the accuracy of your work are spot on. I’m taken back by the amount of work that goes in to it all. It’s much take you some time to get all this done so no wonder you tight on time. Can I ask what time frame you have when it’s comes to livery load?. Not personal time constraints just work load. Because I have a lot on but if I found a willing member to assist me then I could try slot in something for you. A problem shared is a problem halved. But I will leave this for you to decide. Again I’m asking about your workload so I’m not rudely assuming as I tend to do You know I am very complementary of you work and knowledge you have, I’d love to be able to understand different codes but I could work of a picture like what you have shown me. I love how complex they look, to replicate so well must be so satisfying and rewarding. I mean the logo looks great but if you feel it ain’t right then again speaking from experience I’d say on the second or the third attempts you will have what you want. Perfection is in the eye of the beholder. And is why it seem you have had to move on to realistic companies because of the issues you have been faced with. It’s why I have offered to help you with that issue and see if I could something in regards to this Blue and Orange thing. I know TG08 or JPlayz my be able to assist you if you’d like that. I have to say TG08 might be your best bet. Obviously I’d have to see what He has on, I’ve been away for a week so I need to catch up with the Team. Yet if TG08 is free to assist you or me could that free up some time by either me passing work to TG08 or someone else. Or TG08 assist you. It’s subbing work out and getting others involved if that helps free up time. Someone you don’t have to man manage too, or that what defeat the object. So let us know if your happy to take that approach and I will see if TG08 is willing to help out due to his own time constraints or if I can find someone to assist me so I can free time up to assist you. It’s a very busy time for and so don’t worry about my waffles. Catch you soon to mate. TSLP✌.
thanks mate for the compliment but it's just something I think I'm good at, copying things despite there are much better livery makers that I also look forward to, but they also often have been with the game longer than I do haha do you mean how long I work on a livery? often 1 to 3 days if I can work on it a bit, idk XD it’s always different, sometimes it can go fast if I've already made that type of wagon or loco before then it's often just adjusting some logos and color. then it goes fast but it was also lil a joke because how do you want to help me then? we can't work together on liveries and then it's not my creation anymore right? so how do you see that exactly? and yes it's just a shame that DTG livery designer doesn't update and remove those bugs. cheersss
Any time Sure I get that, I’m the same I try get some reference shots and work of that. But here me being me I need to understand in order to feel comfortable with what I am doing so I don’t make a silly mistakes. OCD kicks in a what ever else, if I don’t fully grasp what I am doing then I just don’t feel comfortable doing it. Why I never worked on vans or wagons I am just not comfortable because I have no knowledge about any of it. What can make it worse is if I read up to gain some knowledge as I have in the past with codes on wagons and what they all mean, can result in me failing to learn and so worry more because it seems more complicated then it should. You, TG08 and JPlayz most members on here have the ability to understand what is written about on this subject or anything to do with class types and TOCs. So yes I perfectly get that, I do what I am interested in or I wouldn’t be here. I spend time here which again is the most valuable commodity in all our life’s. You spend the amount of time I would normally take but after a past conversation with TG08 I remember him telling me to slow down. And I did whether that was to with what he said or my Meds that was settling in. What ever the case I slow down. This is why I asked about you time frame due to mentions of running out of time. I think I was trying to establish your overall workload. Work written in Pen and ones written in pencil on the Job sheet. I have around 17 to 18 currently on the books. At this rate around 3 days to a week to produce a livery is gonna take some time. It also hinders me in reacting to the market conditions. Ie What new DLCs come out what’s Hot and What’s not. I like to focus on many different aspects of theme across different DLCs. By working like this helps me do hot work on the latest releases when money allows and the older releases. This collaboration between our companies is a prime example of reacting to what’s going on. You came out the blue I loved your passion and work, the rest is history now. I don’t have a plan to work to as such to allow me freedom to move. The downside to that is taking to much work on meaning the Job sheet gets longer or longer. This is the only reason I ask because I feel to get some work out I may need to Sub it out to the ones with the same amount of passion I have for my approach to liveries. You will know this your self if you haulage firm is busy or has vehicles VOR. Again my Traffic planning Job meant if I didn’t have the fleet or drivers to do the normal tour program then I’d be operating tight. No flexibility in the fleet. Add all the other things that comes with a operational business capability then I would have to Sub out due to the amount of work on, how many drivers off, and how many VORs. Even breakdowns adding to different seater coaches being out of position. Basically to much work on for that business to operate healthy in terms of customer experience and profitability of providing those expectations. If I felt in my position that couldn’t be achieved for the firm then Subbing in was the only option. On a long term’s basis after looking at the coming years booking we could evaluate the coming numbers, in which a long term contract would be drawn up. These would be drawn up with a coaching operator with a modern fleet and experienced tour drivers to work on our UK tour program. All companies do it. So if we’re looking at calling our work as a Paint Shop so TSLP for example is my in house HOOKHAUL firm. Or HHS (HOOKHAUL Services). Then like any other company with to much work on has to sub out. And so going back to my original question of would you sub work out to other members of the community be beneficial to you and your group of companies? If we can find others users on the community that like to play around with the nature of work or theme bring more people together. Their books my not be full and then there might be times our books are not full. Either way someone or any fictional company will be on hand. A bunch of top class livery makers sharing work and ideas, feedback, tips and tricks etc. we have those with the same skills and experience. Doesn’t matter if your new or old. Now is now which is now the past. Meaning to create a future means we must look past now. Looking forward and evaluating the coming changes. Meaning what we do now can change to future for ourselves and for others. That one day will all be in the past, but that’s when one leaves a legacy due to all the actions and changes that person did before anyone else. By seeing a coming trend you can act before others do. It’s what makes market leader, by seeing the potential in something others don’t. So yes I truly apologise for my long waffle mate. When it’s comes to this topic then I am very much interested in how business run. I can pick it up and why I my old Job was called vehicle boy. Because I would manage all vehicles movements so knew where every veh was and at what given time. Unless they was pulling a black optional. Getting another unofficial driver to do a excursion while our driver had the day of. He would get all the money for that day, and because it was run unofficially we the firm didn’t get any money. I found it very amusing when calling a driver up saying we need your coach, the response I would get was normally a long silent one. Yes because it wasn’t at the Hotel where I knew it should be, it was out on black optional. Hahahaha. So…………….
……Okay I will have this conversation open so all can see what I say. It’s transparency between us. Evidence say. And why I keep meaning to do a official announcement, my ref to things being done unofficially. Behind closed doors or hidden away. Yet held off due to the nature of what we or anyone we interact with. So I am glad you have raised this question publicly for me to answer publicly. Transparency from me and from my firms lol. Okay let’s take what I gave you. I asked if you wanted to be CEO of the HOOKHAUL Group EU. This is a franchise owned and operated by HOOKHAUL Group UK. This group and any of other arm of the group is still owed by me. What I gave you was my permission or a license to use HOOKHAUL as a Brand. I gave you my consent in having freedom as CEO to do what you felt I’d want for my HOOKHAUL Group EU would look like. By still retaining my original logo (Brand). This is owned by me and could say I have all rights if it was in a legal context. But you have altered it and so still gave you my consent. Yet you added the stars. This is why I can not add anything again in common terms or legal context. I have no understanding so cannot comment. So I will move on to what you gave me and what I have done to your work with ideas etc. If we look back at your first livery then we can see how different it now looks from your previous ideas or logo design. Here you could say I created your logo. Like we could agree you added to my logo but didn’t create the main logo. I feel I kinda did due to altering so much for it be seen as a completely separate work from your original logo design. Which leads to me to the same problem with you possibly having some rights by adding the stars to my logo and me having some creative rights in you new logo. BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE COMMON TERMS OR THE LEGAL SIDE TO SAY WHO OWNS WHAT. So if I was to say publicly that if I gave you the logo as it with all rights of ownership and you gave me the Stars for me and I have the full rights tho the logo you did for me then just swap. Railnex is yours regardless of if I created or altered it and HOOKHAUL Group EU franchise with star logo is mine regardless of you created or altered the logo. Each Brand and logo belongs to each individual. We swap. Because again I am not a lawyer. But if we understand who owns and has the right to do what and with permission I feel would be a reasonable way around it. I perfectly agree and understand your concerns, don’t you think I don’t have them. Yet I am a trustworthy Man. And would do nothing to harm your and my reputation by looking like a thief. All I can do is try be responsible and hope the person I am talking to is the same. Trust is a massive part of what would be involved working as we are or with others. All relationships needs trust to build on. Without that the ground is soft and so everything we try build is unstable and will fall apart. So I believe in this or any partnership or relationship has to have a good solid foundation made out of trust for it to work. Honest and communication with each other is also important for success relationship. Why be in a partnership or a working relationship that doesn’t have that. If something ain’t working then try find a solution together if not then why waste time in a dead relationship or a non working one. Sorry it’s sounds like I am trying to date ya lol. I’m not mate don’t worry about that, no offence I’m sure your handsome man lol. All I am trying to say is, I won’t rip you off. I’m not like that. And why if we are to continue and which I hope we can. Then trust, honesty and clear communication and understanding is key to a successful working relationship between us as individuals behind the company/ companies. Hopefully we don’t have to bring the legal teams in, and we can short this out as decent common men, respecting each other words and promises. So yes even if we are happy working together based on trust can we find others that are willing to be trusting as am with you and you are with me. We’re both in the same boat so to speak. Subbing out is fine but there has to be some trust or agreement between us or two companies. Meaning if this is based on Trust, then do you Trust me, and can I Trust you. Or even be able for use both Trust anyone other community member if Subbing out work. What I would say at this stage tho as I will be posting your class 66 on CC. I will give you a final update to see if your still happy before I do. And if so I will upload with a small disclaimer explaining that RAILNEX Group EU and RAILNEX UK is used under permission and all rights belong to their respective owners. If you could add the same to your livery description then it clears up to any users looking what belong to who. I have all rights to my own logo and logo of HOOKHAUL Group EU And you have all rights to again your own logos and of RAILNEX Group UK. Regardless of who made what, it’s used under license and agreement that all logos and brands belong to the respective owner. And like any license or agreement can be broken if I feel your misusing my brands or logos as you can if you felt I was abusing your brand and logos. So at anytime in a company or legal context if we both have an agreement and any or either party breaks that agreement then a contract or licensing agreement can be revoked. Hence you already have a basic license and agreement but if you would like me to draw up a proper licensing agreement or contract I can set one out for you. To clearly specify what I will allow and not allow as part of a that written licence agreement from me head of the HOOKHAUL Group and it’s subsidies. And you could draw one up. Again we can speak lightly and joke around with the role play side but I perfectly agree as I said at the beginning. And so fully understand your feelings about doing what we are and what I am suggesting. I can have fun with you and what we are doing but don’t think I don’t understand the seriousness of what we’re doing if seen from a legal perspective. And my friend I am so so sorry for my waffles again. But I felt I owed you a long explanation due to the nature of your question and comment. Plus I had nothing to do when I got up because the kids had not moved there stuff from one room to the other to allow me to work. Kids a!, work me bum of get the room shorted and more bothered about GTA and Fornite. Arrrrrrrgh I so dislike the latter game. Pointless but I’m gonna go before I waffle on about games of today. Lol. PS taken me this long to write my time has dwindled, lol. Catch you soon man. TSLP✌.
well mate i dont know where to start XD but yes my interest lies completely in european freight transport by road and rail. i always see the trains when im on the road and it remains beautiful to look at. although most people find wagons boring i always find them very interesting and want to see every detail. what those numbering and signs on wagons meaning i always ask chatGPT. it is fast and smart and that way you learn something, after you know a few things then it all becomes logical what you see. but it is just copying the stickers and where they should be placed. it is not that big a deal mate. i have been playing this game since january i think ? and before i had little to no understanding and look what i already know now.. if you just want something then you can do it and yes there is no workload.. i just have a full time job as a truck driver and i am currently a single homeowner. i have to run the whole house on my own besides a job and i have a pretty big house. and a house is NEVER finished I always want to make something different or change it into something beautiful so yes, time has to be invested in that too, I make liveries as a hobby and don't take it that seriously.. I work on it when I feel like it and otherwise not. I haven't played the game on Monday and Tuesday either because I put in a lot of hours last week which I certainly enjoyed. but there is nothing heavy and the joke about not having enough time should be taken more lightly.. if I may say it seriously I say it will all come naturally i keep making my own liveries and ideas and there are also more in my planning, at least 10 locos/wagons GATX VTG WASCOSA and many more but I like to have those ideas. although often the things i make are also on CC i always want to make them better to my taste. because i only buy DLC that i am interested in and since DLC is super expensive i only buy EU so far because that is where my interest lies. but if people also want to participate in our fictional story they are ALWAYS WELCOME, and i also think that we should maybe make our own thread about this? i was thinking for a while about placing a railnex thread for in game photos and that kind of thing. i think it also keeps the workshed a bit more organized? so no I don't want to outsource anything, that's not necessary for me at least, I can't help you with your liveries, if we could send liveries to each other as files it would be a solution. and yes you have all the rights and owner HH UK and EU logos and company I am owner RAILNEX EU and UK and have a daughter company DistriNex Logistieken because it completely fit the concept of my wagons at that time. and yes you made RN logo for the UK and it I like how creative you have been i feel honored to say almost and the appreciation for my company it and that is just like the HH EU logo on my wagon and train the stars are ONLY to show the cooperation. the original patent (or whatever they call it) of the logo is WITHOUT the stars as you made it. so on that point i totally agree with you buddy. and i still wasn't sure if i wanted to put RAILNEX on CC or not.. but then we make a license agreement to be clear about what is and isn't possible but i already like it for what it is. in but it is and remains a game so relax more about it mate. i'm not going to change anything about HOOKHAUL eu because i like the concept and design that i made and you liked it too so then it's good right i just make liveries when i want and which ones i want and i just like playing the game and i like driving a few hours in germany or the netherlands i like germany because of PZB and the world's most beautiful trains haha :p unfortunately we only have 1 dutch route and only the vectron has ATB as a freight train and i don't play without safety systems. (Edit) this long paragraph XD peace out guys
Hello there again. Hahaha, well I’m the same now, not knowing where to start. And to try keeping it short for you. So I will simply say I fully get what you mean. We are drawn to what we are generally interested in and why I firmly believe in what Plato said about everyone having a Job or a purpose on this Earth. It could be why we all chose of try take a career in that person’s interests, and why we have the interests as we do. And so yes I would have to say I get what you meant when you say about seeing beauty in a dead object. A Tesla to me looks dead, yet an old E Type Jaguar looks alive. The same could be said for Steam over Diesel. Steam trains have characteristics similar to a living breathing machine. Diesel don’t or didn’t have when first introduced. Yet the things you see or what I see may not be to everyone’s interests. Nothing wrong with that. Because if we was all interested in the same things then would we all be working in same area of Job. Anyway this is why I too love looking at your work and things like that in general. When on the road I’d be interested in the country sticker. So, CH, ESP, NL, etc then I’d be interested in what many of the firms did. I don’t know why I did but I did it anyway. And why as a kid I’d look at many modes of transportation and see what could be improved. I could go on but I feel like I am waffling. But if it’s a simple as you say then I think I will have a pop at doing some UK wagons for you. I have all the extra sign decals. I’ll have to say thank you for giving me some confidence in giving it ago. And hey for only starting in January and you can do what you do shows me that you have a natural born talent. Again we all have a Job to do on this Earth, a purpose. We will always be good at something where others are not. It’s finding that natural born talent in people who are like minded. As the saying goes we are who we hang around with or associate with. Hence why I don’t go the Pub to watch Football all day long. What does a game of Football change in this world?. Blokes fighting or discussing the game all day long makes no difference to the world we live in, so I have no interest in what is considered entertainment. But again nothing wrong with others having that interest as we are all different or past time. We choose to do what we are interested in and have a natural born talent to do. If you have to try extra extra hard at something then it’s probably not the path for that person. Yet if it’s flows then your a natural mate Oh and add all the little knocks or shift in one’s life (Path) then here I believe the forces are at play. Hence everything happens for a reason. If it’s meant to be it will be. If we have faith and believe in all that we’re doing is correct. Okay workload so home related and your job. And it’s not a case of livery workload. That’s fine then mate, TSW and liveries is a past time, your little hobby when you get time. Again I fully get that due to my responsibility at home. And if I was still driving myself for a living then I very much doubt I could be doing what I currently am. I don’t work you see. So why I have a lot more time on my hands than most. But no no mate sorry if you feel I was being intrusive I fully understand and respect your situation. Slower you are the less pressure on me XD. I only learned what that means yesterday I’m stuck in the past so amazing you don’t hear me saying things like Groovy, or Top one, ace one, or nice one mate. Haha. So yes man I am all cool. Probably me overthinking again. Blowing things completely out of proportion. Okay making what you do and with the DLCs you currently or will in the possible future. If anything it’s absolutely perfect. Because again I too buy mostly the routes I am interested in or for the Mastery Decals. And we have our own individual interests which isn’t a problem either. Why I approached you in the first place, as I seen the massive amounts of passion for your interests. By again seeing if you would like to help me in the EU Market and me help you in the UK market. We have the DLCs, and it’s our area of expertise or business in different countries. Like DB Cargo UK and DB Poland. Many UK companies that own and leases out to both the UK and EU sectors of operations. I have a list of all class 66, who owns and lease them to companies like GBRf or Frightliner Distribution. Even for EU countries too. If your interested I will try get a link up for you when I find some time. In fact I’ve just noticed the time so unfortunately will have to end there. I will be back tho buddy. Catch ya in later. TSLP✌.
Im back again, change of plan at home. Actually it’s funny how you bring up the topic of a separate thread. As I was thinking about future expansion if you are happy to welcome others in. Therefore I was thinking about me setting a thread up for HOOKHAUL and RAILNEX work. And you’re free to open your own thread for Railnex and other projects you do. We can add and share HOOKHAUL RAILNEX on one thread and you have control over you own personal thread. I feel it would be a good direction to go and be clearer for the community to follow what we do as a joint company venture or as individuals away from that joint company venture. And you can send files and so have a solution. That is I have 3 accounts. Rigsby, Rigsby&Co, and then Blackstripe TSL. So if I made something on Rigsby I can then log out of DTL and add then log in on the DTL account used for Blackstripe. I can then upload a livery on CC as a file exchange to be passed from account to account. The only problem doing that openly would mean exchanging log in details. Something I would not be comfortable with to be fair and I feel you would feel the same. But yes you can exchange files if one own the relevant DLCs. And for help I am not asking for direct help, I can make my own stuff. What I meant was doing what we are now. Because if time is an issue then opening a thread can mean more traffic to deal with, you might get request or someone else wanting to work with you. A thread all takes time, so again I preempting the possibility of it getting more busy and so if it came to that we could sub or share work. But we can cross that bridge if opening a thread is something you would want, I do agree to be fair with you as I was thinking about this last night. So not a problem we can short something out And for ownership and rights. I may have gone OTT but I wasn’t too sure how you really felt, but if you are happy to take a relaxed approach then again I’m cool with that. I’m no lawyer but we must make it clear to users here and on CC what is what and who’s is who’s. I will do something when we properly discuss and understand the threads theme and direction. Yet if this is just a past time for you then if your happy for me to open the HOOKHAUL RAILNEX thread I can take some slack off you as I may be changing direction soon with the R200 project. I will have to see as I haven’t seen any or no progress much from the Team or engagement from the community. Ie think it’s fizzled out. I’ll will have to see when I am fully back. So yes I could do that to allow you more free time to work on liveries and manage your own threads Ie just RAILNEX or any of your sister companies. So if we can clear that up publicly with a small disclaimer explaining that then I feel it will cover us. This is for uploading on to CC, as I feel after giving each other a simple agreement and rights of use. Ie me working on you logo and you on mine and both of us are happy then again we have permission. Permission to share work on CC as that work is correct and to a company standard. I love that we both appreciate each other’s brand as I do think the HOOKHAUL EU logo looks ace. It fits perfectly to the theme of what you enjoy most as logical operations is great interest to you. I do think the RAILNEX UK will look ace when I fully get to grips with your second unit. By the way what class 66s do you have?. As I am working on the Class 66 from the Glasgow express pack. One/ DRS liveries on currently. And to wrap up again I may sound like I do go overboard as this is just a game, when I came back I had no intention of being busy or so active here. But for me I made a life changing decision to devote my life to this game, silly as it sounds. But like I was saying if life is hard then I was on the wrong path. I was Ill for over two years after Covid and other health issues. Yet that time allowed me to follow my passion and dreams of being something for once with my life. To make a change for the better, and why I am a little open as I feel men are not as open as we once was. And something I have just been notified of. GBRf new liver supporting andysmansclub. It’s about men struggling and about mental health issues too. We men do struggle I seen it and so I try act to make a change. My dream is hopefully be able to be in a position to make a wider change for all one day because liveries is a passion but so are societal issues. My eyes have been watching man for some time, the world is an interesting subject but is not for all. It’s a higher level of knowledge and understanding. Like a gift or a natural talent, so I’m just following the signs. Hope is all I can do yet while I wait I feel the only way I can make a change is to start small. Be open and be me. Fight for what right and support anyone or any company that tries its best like GBRf has done in bringing awareness in this subject of lonely men and mental health issues. In fact mate I was even going to email GBRf but they will probably think I am mad. I wouldn’t disagree either lol. So yes I have completely gone of topic and haven’t a clue what I was talking about before I did waffle on there. That was it just a game, yes it is but life was always hard, nothing ever worked out for me, life made me completely miserable and mentally exhausted and emotionally unstable seeing all the injustice and,,,well knowing the truth of what life is all about. But that is very very deep stuff that I should and will stay away from. Truth is good but some times truth can be too much for the masses or individual. And to live in ignorance is bliss. My life is not full of bliss for that very reason I see and so want to make a change. I gave up on the rat race and for once following my dream, for at least when my time is up I can say at least I tried. So yes sorry for that deep dive into my mind and thinking. Oh XD lol. You have fun with the safety systems and well on you too, I use all safety systems on UK and US locos, I have loads of platinums But yes those EU safety systems are a little tricky but if one understands the basic rule or block system then they will understand what those safety systems do and why they are fitted. Even I grasp that and I can’t work the tools on here properly lol, sorry XD. Okay I’ll will call it day I think, I’m all waffled out. If you could let me know on here about a green light for me to set up a HH, RN thread as I can share some photos of the completed unit as it is now technically done. So I feel the time is right some how for me or us to post some photos of the completed work as you can add some links to the livery on CC then Peace to you too Brother. TSLP✌ PS I have locked up on opening my DMs for some reason. It’s why I haven’t DM you or anyone for while. I know why tho and I will short it soon or say confront the situation head on.
De I have to keep it short now buddy but yes I completely agree with you but yes I am back at work and had to unload these wagons today. were loaded with pressed waste bales from Italy which we have to unload with the walking floor trailer at the incinerator / energy generation EEW Delfzeil Holland. really in the top point of the Netherlands. these bales also arrive in Habbiins wagons and i can now view them up close in full detail and have seen new things. so very interesting and cool work what I am doing at the moment but I am very tired when I get home tonight because it is also quite warm at the moment in the Netherlands and that takes its toll... So I did not really feel like turning on my laptop and continuing with liveries Cheers !
Hey man, I appreciate your time sending these. LEEMANS it’s got my name in it. And again I’ve been on the road my friend in UK summer heat in a Van for 15 hours a day. And then down in Italy on the outer Milan Ring road. The heat is ridiculous dry. And been in Spain. Salou, Malgrat, The Riviera basically. Unloading and loading 40 odd case on and off. In a suit and tie. So yes I’ve been there. The heat will take it out of you man. I’d drink Tea but then I’d have to pee, hence why I don’t work.Another story for next time maybe. So you chill man, I’m cool. Play some ice cold winter music as if you think it’s cold your body will feel cold. Mind over Matter. Trick the mind. It’s works trust me. So that weather looks so bad, have you got your snow chains?. How cold is it where you are?. It’s looks so bitterly cold man, look at the ice built up on the front. Well mad man, drive safe mate those icy roads can get bad. I drove in Scotland mate in the winter, on some back roads to, so they wasn’t used as much as the trunk roads. So it was just black ice all day with the sun glaring on the ice which blinded me. Gosh, I’m not even with you and I feel cold Give it a try,,,, Don’t give you self chill burns tho hahahaha. I’ll catch you when you’re not on the road. All I will do is set that thread up today as your first 66 is ready. But seriously mate, driving is a hard job, been there. It’s not a nine to five job like most have. It’s a very demanding Job, and most don’t understand life on the road. That’s life what we’re doing is just for fun. So don’t worry man. Just stay fresh and safe in this cold weather TSLP✌
Found this if anyone has any use for it. A little patch up here and there but other than that it’s pretty good to go. ✌.
I might have an idea. But I'll leave it for now incase someone else wants to have a go. If no one gets back to you, I'll happily use it for a formation.
Sweet well I did plan on having separate units so you can mix and match. I took this approach a few years back due to the sets being mirrored at the PC end. This way you can mix and match stock as you wish now formations designer is out. It’s nothing special so I’ll try get it upload so you can do what you wish. Again their all different and unique in some way. Great for Ai or as a background or formation. ✌.
Seeing as no one has commented yet I may as well share my thoughts. With my expected purchase of WCL next week, I hope to make some Network Rail carriages like those seen on the NMT (New Measurement Train). I'm debating it though but I'll get back to you when I have a solid plan. Got to dash as I've got a workout to do. Speak to you later , JPlayz
I'm back. I need to stay healthy somehow lol. But with the NMT design with the Colas Rail power cars, I thought I'd make a formation like what has been used for the MML Electrification trials. There were two Colas Rail ex XC power cars, two XC coaches, A class 91, two more XC coaches and the other XC power car. So I may use a similar formation if I can. Just without the 91
That’s more like it, absolutely spot on. See I’d never have known that, you are important and have great abilities my friend. Again you do run circles around me if you trusted that. You have to believe in yourself before you can believe others. So again you are my Masters, and I am your slave. Tell me what I can do and I will try fit it in. As you can see there is always something to do. Never a dull moment working for TSLP Paint Shops mate. Fun and excitement, even the odd tantrum lol. This is what I like to see. Something fast easy, a pump out what I’d call it. No time researching, No complex work. Easy to get out on CC. A Pump out. They come handy to fill spaces between more complex works. You’re always productive so you’re constantly active on CC. Again tho fantastic stuff no messing about. Let’s get one done. I’ll follow your lead on this one. Thank you man. Lee✌
Nice, it’s Mint mate. Look at it. Could you ask for any better. I very much doubt it. Absolutely superb work from speedfreak#6380 Rigsby. ✌
so here I am, might do the Stitch livery... I am well aware that it is Disney copyrighted thing, but I am not doing it for commercial gain... well, will see how it turns out when I have time and energy to try my hand at it... if it looks good enough, will definitely post it to Creators Club and share it in my livery thread... the worst that could happen is it gets pulled down from CC, but still working for personal use ... tho I am hoping that if it turns out nicely and ppl actually like it... I dont know, will try and see ... first and foremost, I want to challenge myself and see if I can use the editor to actually create sth like simpler cartoonish drawings to use in fictional liveries
i also had new DLC and i immediately made something for RAILNEX WIP (yeah i have quite a few projects going on now :P)
that grain/crops decal looks simple but looks so nice and smooth, bet it took some aligning work to accomplish on a side note, I have recently discovered that for some fine-tuning the controller is nice to have handy (got XBOX One controller) as the sticks and triggers have pressure sensitivity and keys pretty much dont... also, DPAD is super effective when trying to nail an exact color hue (especially in the H row of HSV), trying to click on specific point is a major pain on keyboard
Hello there. Thanks for coming here. We can speak more about your livery and ideas as that’s what The Works Shed is all about. The different and unique styles of livery creation. Your place to go wild I also take my Hat off to you for being so brave, as you say it’s not for commercial gain. That’s my own personal worries tho on the work you are attempting, and when I say the following I mean it. I truly can’t wait to see what you do for caricatures are hard. I’m asking my son to find some photos of His work so I can show you. He can’t do what I do yet I can’t do what He does. Actually just received them now. The work you see was done by a 11 Year old. So proud He listened to me, yet at the same time completely gutted I (Edit) can’t do this style of work. I’d love to be able too. Why I’m very interested and curious on how the livery will finally look. As you say the worst is it gets pulled, you still have a little master piece for yourself. Be Proud of the work you do. Push those limits Lee✌.
yeah but it wasn't too hard, and yes it's a pretty simple idea but that's the concept of RAILNEX, simple sleek and modern. it's also far from finished All information stickers, UIC number ETC and symbols still need to be on it and of course RAILNEX will be added I play on PC and use keyboard and mouse so I have no problems with that or with selecting colors.
Good comment. The PS5 controller is very good for fine alignment. Never used a keyboard or Xbox controller before tho so can’t really comment here on the pros and cons. R. ✌
Thanks man. He got into making liveries like me on The Crew 2 as it was during my period away from TSW. We did TSW together but we stopped together too after the Class 43 LNER logo ban what ever it was. And I’m sad to say despite all my praise and encouragement on his natural abilities He stopped. As a father I believe in supporting my Children not pushing them to what I believe my Children should. Yet there is a good side to all this, He now wants be like His Father again. He wants to change the world, by building a new future. To be an architect, to change the world around us for the better. That’s His Dream now. I will support Him not tell Him what to do. I believe you can never push someone without a dream or ambitions to be someone. That would be interfering in life. For which I believe no one has the rights or authority to alter life. A life only they can walk. As a Father to my Children I can only guide. Lee✌.
Oh that's a shame. Well he seems to have made up for it with the Crew Time well spent. Yeah I suppose if you push a child too far, they may reject it altogether. But it's good to hear he wants to be an architect. I hear it pays well, plus he'd be doing a lot of designing and things. At least that's what I've heard. All the best, JPlayz
I'd say an Xbox controller isn't that different in terms of functions to a PS. Keyboards however are a pain for liveries. I have tried it in the past and it is very hard. That's why I choose to create on console
Here you I’ll pass you on to my lad He did the work not me. Thank you, I did try my best but Didn’t come out as I expected but it was still decent. My dad just informed me that you are going to do a Lilo And Stich 1! Very interesting decision as a surfer style is relaxing . I personally wouldn’t recommend going for a full sketch but it depends how good you are, but hope you do well, I will ask my dad to keep my in touch with your results Good Luck, I will find the results interesting. Oh nooo He even sounds like me. He has placed a few emojis too so not sure what will show. I haven’t altered His message to you neither. Lee✌.
most of the time it is fine, however, sometimes you want more precision or some exact color hue (which you can find on some websites, like for flags and such)... anyway, here is a link that I have posted today with some massive collection of stuff I would like to see improved in the Livery Designer https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/livery-designer-2-0-features-wishlist.53609/#post-995904
One of them mate, they swap from thing to thing. So The Crew 2 He no longer plays. Just doing what keeps do. And yes I agree to that statement. If you push a kid they will turn the other way when older. I kinda let my kids be free, free to see the world and choose what interests them. What interest them will no doubt be their given skill. Hinder that natural progression then a child will be miserable. Forced to be what their parents want or expect them to be in now or in the future. Life we can’t control now or later. Everything has consequences, hence theres always a reason. And what we do today will make a difference tomorrow. Just enjoy life and be free, living life unrestricted is letting life be life. Let it be. And hey I told Him once, if you want to make a difference in this world then do it for the love of the world not for the love of money. It’s the food of the Evil. Lee✌.
Testing shots for GWR. What green would you call it? And then what Blue would you say it is too. My 801 101 Retro Livery next to SRs work. Taken some time ago. Colours are a minefield. So I go look for understanding the paints used and the mix. Undercoat and overcoat. Take that information and try work and work it at it until you get what you feel looks right in your mind. Hoping the information and what ever preconceptions of a colour. Working of photos and all that is fine. So many variables to compare and so take into consideration. Even leading to confusion. Here I feel the only way is to understand paints in general. The mixes the application, and how they degrade with age. So you may see a photo of earlier The Flying Scotsman then new ones, here you will see a vast difference. It’s okay to say what colour something should be, but to get the actual colour or shade depends on so many factors. Understanding those factors can help you get a more accurate colour. As I am sorry to break this news to you but if you focus on one light setting it will be off or look completely different in others light settings. If you play around in photo mode, swap the time and dates. Say mid summers day to a mid day in November then you’ll see a vast difference in colours again. It’s all to do with LRV, that takes base coat etc into consideration. We can’t apply undercoating, so can never get a true finish or accurate representation using LD. Testing is all we can do taking into consideration all of the above to achieve a decent result. Rigsby. ✌.
I can agree with that. I've always wanted to work in the train industry after I learnt that my Grandfather used to be a train driver. Since that point I've been interested in trains. My point is, if you find something or someone who motivates you to do something it can really help out later on. True. Life's too short to hold back too much. Sometimes you need to go into the deep end to learn how to swim (figuratively). I also agree with your point on money. It can make you detached from those you care about or even make you despise your loved ones because you have money (a topic for a later time). Take care, JPlayz P.S: I'm nearly finished on the R200 branding. I'll release it in an hour or so
It’s natural, my family goes back to farming and well, Gypsy too. Yet I had no idea of all that as kid. I was interested in what was around me. Which was mostly everything, yet always had an eye for detail but it would just take a me awhile to get school work or homework done. My Art and Design teacher would always say that to me. My work was always worth the wait. And so with all that’s gone on all the different knocks in life I am here today talking to you and doing what I love. Shame it’s doesn’t pay as I have to be realistic. I need money we all do but I want to follow my passion not lose it by being a slave on a product line or a 9 to 5 office job fighting your to and way home from work. The stress and the costs. The more one has the more one has to worry about. So money is a necessary evil, but I will never let it rule my life or dictate my ambitions. Because the less I have the less I need to worry about. Fancy cars, houses holidays. It all cost so we have to slave away to be part of the Rat Race or Keeping up with the Jones. And why, well I know why but it’s not the place. So yes you’re right we have to learn and swim so we can when we finally venture into the unknowns. If supported a child is shown how to swim then they can do just that. Hold them down and they will drown when the time comes to venture in the Big Wide Oceans of this World. Because they never learnt to in the little Pond at the back of their own yard. Okay I’ve been hit and miss today with post etc, and switching of now before Lee takes over waffling again. So on that note I will see what you have done tomorrow to catch up with things I have missed. And Hey we are who we hang around with Lee✌.
Quite a personal matter now. I’ve had many storms, was even advised to visit my local ANDYSMENCLUB Near me. But I don’t go out. This is why when I said why it’s more than just about livery’s. I’m the way I am because of many thought times and I know others have them to, but Men being men put a brave face on or hide their true feelings. Yet I feel I’m getting better and so could I help others that was once like me. Near the End. Now what I am about to show you I wasn’t aware of when contacting GBRf. I mentioned my struggles before explaining why I reached out to them, For Help and possibly support with a charity idea I had. That’s the past now, And then around a week ago I seen 69 013 fresh from the Paint shops. So before I go waffling at this time of night then I will leave you with this. It had to be done, even after what I said. For GBRf to do this says something to raise awareness of this societal issue. I very much doubt I’ll be able to upload this on to CC as it does have emails on, yet I am trying to get some permission or authority Just hope it’s not a sixth company that never responds. It’s not about what we say, but what we do. Saying anything is just that. Yet talking is doing something Lee✌.
It's funny you mention this. I was actually going to take this approach on the BPO 47. Yeah I'd say this is an important livery as many men in society hide behind a wall to try and keep up appearances when upset. I myself have done this which is also why this particular livery has some significance to me. I haven't been to one myself, but from what I've heard it's a good place.
so yesterday I have started my work on that Stitch livery for 158... expect a slightly skewed title for it in the CC, as it blocks the title itself (so I had to rename it as "Stytch" )... atm I am about halfway working on the head, so I got basic shape, head, ears, and mouth with tongue and those cute teeth is coming along nicely... the big hurdle is going to be the eyes and nose and such details so it comes out right goal is to get a nice, joyful, playful livery that if done IRL would make kids squeak and giggle when trainspotting like "Yaaay Stitch "
That sounds similar to some liveries that trains have in Japan I believe. There is some Disney themed ones I've seen online so I'd say this is probably semi-fictional. But it'll be great to see what it looks like when it's complete JPlayz
yea there is that Banana yellow Shinkansen, and Hello Kitty Shinkansen, and I believe Hachiko has at least one trainset dedicated as well... might be many more as Japanese are crazy ... sometimes in good way lol
Hey, you still can as I am only doing the one 66, as it’s based of a class 69. Again you’re so right and I have always understood it was issues as for back as 2000. The stories some drivers would tell me, yet you’d never have thought that would be going on the way they hide it from the view. So I do completely understand how important this AMC is to those struggling. I wish I had gone but I was a wreck mate. Completely emotional unstable. My environment took its toll on me. Society and Social issues have got out of hand. Reading and learning about deeper issues many I doubt will ever do. To be in a place of such depth of knowledge can take over. 5 Days of thinking about what I see happening and that’s that. Depressed, anxious on what I see going on in the world. Why I believe Men and Society have these issues. It’s not us but our environment that’s taking its toll. Again why I say about environment we live in. A Good safe environment, happy people, A Unsafe world with woes and worries is bad for the soul. 5 Days remember of thinking about the negativity of this world, mean so will we. Add that issue on a nationwide scale and we can see how big the problem is. The Subconscious is taking all this information in unbeknown to us. Media and Phones has a massive influence on our behaviour. Why I don’t have a phone. What we see and hear all goes in that Brain. Left unchecked and we can start to feel low. The Subconscious at work. It’s a reason for why we suddenly whistle a song out of no where. You probably heard it on the radio during some point in the day, only when in the shower or something will you suddenly start to whistle. Where you’d promptly ask yourself, where did that come from. I find it very interesting you are aware of AMC like me. I too have heard is a great place to go. Again my family and that advised me to visit, you know get my confidence back in society. I haven’t been out there for years. I’ve been told they go for walks and trips out and that, in fact it sounds like a Jolly Boys Outing. Just hope Denzel looks after the coach lol. And Rodney knowing how to kick a Ball straight, not at a Bobbies face!. lol. So yes, I agree and can completely understand how you feel without going to much into depth. But you can see why I speak the way I do and try get others involved with what we do. Support others. It’s not about the liveries as I say. It’s about trying to bring us all together to talk, to open up and be us. No hiding, we can relax away from the world outside, even be our own boss or CEO. It’s there for a purpose. To make this a safe space, an environment we can all feel comfortable around each other. And as Brothers and Sisters support like a family does. For if we all can make this world a better place, then maybe we will all feel better on day. For that to happen takes a Brave man to be a Man. To show the world their weakness and strength. To be Human. Not what society expects a Man to be. Actions make a change. It’s down to the individual to make that choice. What we do today affects the world tomorrow. The Butterfly Effect. So you imagine if I didn’t come back to this forum. Us meeting or me reading up on rail and getting the idea for this project. Where I then approached TG08. And then now, if I never took the decision to come back, the world was knocking me back here tho. Then how different would your and all our world be if that didn’t happen. We change the world even without knowing it. Everything happens for a reason. What we say and what we do is that reason. And why I try do all that I do for a good reason. To try help others the best any decent Man would do. Lee✌.
This is getting interesting now, sounds very challenging tho guys. I will leave you two with this one. I have too many challenging situations on right now. Yet I’d love to be involved with all those themes. I did this a few years back but sadly didn’t re upload. The livery was created for Halloween 2023 or 22. Not sure now. Based on the Old American TV show The Munsters Herman Munster, on a SD70 on Sherman Hill. So Sherman Munster. And then this as a laugh. Anyway you guys have fun. Lee✌.
Good afternoon, I might. I'll just see. I want to release a class 57 as one of my last liveries I will make for my own content (teaser for anyone who watches my thread ). Yeah I've heard of things like that. I didn't read too much about it, but I saw it come up in an article I was reading and had a little look. Again I only know what their principle is rather than what they specifically do, but it does sound like the organisers want to help men in society. Yeah. When you're near rock bottom, it isn't great. The feeling you can't go out, can't talk... it's not pleasant to say the least. I won't go into where I was publicly as I'm sure you can understand, but it was awful. I mean from what I told you about, I'd say the environment definitely makes an impact. The people you're around, the mood those people bring when you're around them. But also what you see online as well. The former was more significant to what happened to me though. As I say, I've heard about the concept of it, just never fully looked into it. I might do at some point though in case I ever feel like I did again. I guess when you have someone who knows how you feel, it can really help. Like when I told you what happened to me. It felt like somehow, I wasn't alone. What I'm about to say may sound twisted, but even though what happened to the both of us was bad, I felt happy I could relate to someone. Kind of why I also feel I still need to thank you for that JPlayz
Mornings you. I will get back to you on this as I’ve been up all night. But quickly Andysmenclub is all about breaking down the stigmas that comes with Mental Health and being open about struggles. Speaking from experience I think that was all I wanted. Someone that felt the pain but just didn’t know how to stop it like me. The Subject gets quite darker then. As so does the story around why Andysmenclub has been set up. All I can say is I’ve been there, Doctor not caring no Mental Health teams, people treat you differently or look at you like you’re some kinda of Animal. Stuck up and have no time the broken down souls of this world. Which hurts even more as we had so self worth before and they confirm that in how we get treated. It’s disgusting my friend, the world its people all make me Ill now. I felt pain before but going outside kills me to see what society has become. I’m happy here with a few close friends away from the evils of the world, doing what I love. Also I want to help others that feel forgotten. Discarded like rubbish. Do you know why I want to help others. Because I went the doctors I broke down in front here and said I can’t take the world no more, I don’t know how much longer I can survive. I have to support my kids but can’t because the world beats me down. I’m not built for it I said. This was my response. A huff leaning forward and she said, Well you just got to get a job then like the rest of. I have 3 Jobs she said so I relax on a nice holiday. The conversation went a little off shall I say but never swore, nothing. But she told me to get out so I did. A day I got a letter saying get lost. Lost, I was lost and asked for help not listen to her personal feelings. Since that day I always wonder where the lost go too. If no one helps, no one talks, no one is aware, then the lost will turn to loss. There is nothing for us, even when we try before we fall apart completely they still don’t care. People would rather stand by and watch a man crumble away over placing their hand out. It happen on here, no one engages with me much because I am the way I am. Is it not my fault, yet I’m ignored like the beast that I am. Ie I messaged or left a message on DTG liams thread. Did I get a like did I even get a hello. No. Not a sausage. A CEO and. DTG staff member that can’t say a simple hello. That’s how wide spread the problem is. Speak or suffer from Mental Health and you get completely ignored and treated differently. Is that not discrimination?. If not I feel that way. I waffled more than I should’ve then. Lee✌.
Thanks man, I appreciate the comments If you would like me to get the HH one out then I can. I did this one too around the same time. Only had 300 decals and why the livery looks a little bleak. ✌
