Route Route Suggestion

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  1. rickurd#5837

    rickurd#5837 New Member

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    Derby to Leeds via Wakefield/Doncaster

    Included stations:

    Derby
    Duffield
    Belper
    Ambergate
    Chesterfield
    Dronfield
    Sheffield
    Darnall
    Woodhouse
    Meadowhall
    Rotherham Central
    Swinton
    Mexthorpe
    Conisbrough
    Doncaster
    Bentley
    Ardwick
    South Elmsall
    Bolton-upon-Dearn
    Goldthorpe
    Thurscoe
    Moorthorpe
    Fitzwilliam
    Sandal & Agbrigg
    Wakefield Westgate
    Outwood
    Leeds City

    Included Rolling Stock
    Class 220 XC
    Class 222 EMT
    Class 150 NT
    Class 323 NT
    Class 66 EWS

    Layered Rolling Stock
    Class 43 HST XC
    Class 43 HST EMT
    Class 43 HST East Coast (AI only)
    Class 170 XC (AI only)
    Class 170 TPE
    Class 153 EMT
    Class 158 EMT
    Class 142 NT
    Class 158 NT
    Class 37 ROG

    Playable Services

    EMT

    London St Pancras to Sheffield - Class 222 & HST (Derby to Sheffield)
    Nottingham to Matlock - Class 153 & Class 158 (Derby to Ambergate)
    Norwich to Liverpool Lime Street - Class 158 (Chesterfield to Sheffield)

    XC
    Plymouth to Edinburgh - Class 220 & HST (Derby to Leeds)
    Reading to Newcastle - Class 220 (Derby to Doncaster)

    Northern
    Nottingham to Leeds - Class 158 (Chesterfield to Meadowhall)
    Sheffield to Leeds via Moorthorpe - Class 142 & Class 150 (Sheffield to Leeds)
    Sheffield to Ardwick - Class 142 & Class 150 (Sheffield to Ardwick)
    Doncaster to Leeds - Class 323 (Doncaster to Leeds)
    Sheffield to Worksop - Class 142 & Classs 150 (Sheffield to Woodall)
    Sheffield to Leeds via Wakefield Kirkgate - Class 158 (Sheffield to Meadowhall)

    Transpennine Express
    Manchester Airport to Cleethorpes - Class 170 (Sheffield to Doncaster)
     
  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    TransPennine Express use the 185 on this section. They don't operate any 170s.
     
  3. eMAyTeeTee

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    I feel like I they were gonna go Derby to Leeds they'd route it not via Doncaster because XC services (if they can even get an XC license) from Sheffield heading North either go by Leeds OR Doncaster. (Edinburgh services via Leeds and Newcastle via Doncaster. XC clearly being the main attraction here.

    Also it's Mexborough, not Mexthorpe. I assume you mixed up Mexborough with Hexthorpe somehow.
    And it's Adwick, not Ardwick, Ardwick is in Manchester
     
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  4. rickurd#5837

    rickurd#5837 New Member

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    Transpennine did operate Class 170s on this route in the early to mid 2010s, the time period I had in mind
     
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    rickurd#5837 New Member

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    XC services are exactly why I'd got in mind to route both via Doncaster and via Moorthope
     
  6. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Without a XC licence this route is not going to offer much traffic, unless set pre-privatisation.
     
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  7. rickurd#5837

    rickurd#5837 New Member

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    I'd be happy for unbranded XC stock like the WCML Class 350
     
  8. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Unless it’s done with HST’s or loco hauled stock, they still need access to a 220 and 221 for the technical data. I doubt what’s in the archive from TSC would be sufficient for a TSW version. And there’s still the danger that unbranded without approval of the TOC as opposed to the late decision by LNW deciding they didn’t want their brand in the game after all, could still elicit a disapproving response from XC.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't actually know that, I've only ever known them to use the 185s (and in recent years the 802 and 397).
     
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    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    If they got the XC licence this would be cool, and a good route hopping opportunity.
    Would love to see the EC 43 in game!
     

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