Loco E0 Series Tokaido Shinkansen

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  1. boxingnerd2385

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    They should totally add the E0 Tokaido Shinkansen to the Tadami Line
     
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    I strongly doubt it runs anywhere near there :)
     
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    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Yes it’s another half baked suggestion!

    And apart from anything else we still don’t know when or even if UW will finish Tadami yet alone start work on another route being, so far as we know, the only developer of Japanese content for the game.
     
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    It didn't - Tadami is in the Tohuku region about 200 miles (320km) north of Tokyo - Series 0 isn't compatible with Northern Japan's power either - The Northern Shinkansen routes would have used the similar 200 series

    And that's before gauge compatibility both track and loading gauge, or that Tadami is a diesel route

    UW are not full time devs. They have day jobs with TSW development being in spare time
     
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  5. Killer-Of-Night

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    This makes as much sense as DTG adding the AEM-7 to Antelope Valley.....
     
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  6. boxingnerd2385

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    Sorry I forgot that the Shinkansen only runs from Tokyo-Osaka, ETC.
     
  7. boxingnerd2385

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    But what DG should really add, is the American Rail Tour Flying Scotsman
     
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    They should have the American Rail Tour Flying Scotsman run from New York to New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Washington DC, and Chicago, Illinois and Saint Louis
     
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    At least DG will add Flying Scotsman in its USA Rail Tour variant for American train routes right?
     
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    No. That’s highly unlikely. You can drive it on USA routes using Free Roam right now if you like.
     
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  11. boxingnerd2385

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    I use Scenario Planner Mode
     
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    Maybe add the Tokaido Line to TSW5?
     
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    With the E0 series Tokaido Shinkansen?
     
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    Tokaido is a long route, with most services being very limited stop (most service are Nozomi which run non stop between Yokohama and Nagoya) so not so much option for a short section. As the high speed ones go it's probably going to one of the more interesting with coastal running around Odakawa and Atami and near Hamamatsu, being the original line it has a lot of speed limits (being designed for 250km/h but with trains running at 280km/h with tilt) so it's not just sit on the cruise at 320 (cough Tohoku)

    The Series 0 though Iconic may not be the best either - with it's lower stop speed it's not going to hit the challenge of the speed limits.
     
  15. SuperExpressMizuho

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    In addition to everything stated above in regards to why this train type wouldn't have been anywhere remotely near the Tadami Line, not to mention on it, there was also no such thing as the E0-series. The original Shinkansen, which is what I am 99% sure you are referring to was simply the 0-series.

    It was built and debuted under Japan National Railways (JNR) before the splitting of the national rail network in 1986 into the 5 JR Groups. JR East, specifically, uses "E" to denote the Shinkansen trains they own and use (E5, E6, E8, etc), which differentiates them from the sets owned by other JR's, such as JR West and JR Hokkaido, that own near-identical copies. (e.g. E7 (East 7) is pretty much identical to the W7 (West 7); the E5 Hayabusa is identical to the H5 Hayabusa). JR East never inherited, owned, or operated the 0-series even after the dissolution of the JNR, as the Tokaido/Sanyo Shinkansen Line was operated by JR Central and JR West; those JR's would then inherit and operate the 0-series until retirement in 2000s.
     
  16. boxingnerd2385

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    How bout the one from 1985?
     
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    Again you need to be more specific. “The one from 1985” tells us nothing, even those of us with a slight knowledge of Japanese railways. As a minimum, post a Wikipedia link… :)

    And the points previously made still apply. Any train or route project needs to pass DTG’s viability LAMPOIL process. Then they need to find a team to actually build it which, at the moment, for Japan/Asia consists entirely of the part time Union Workshop who have yet to deliver Tadami. We don’t even know if they would be interested in doing another TSW project given the obvious struggle they are having with this one.
     
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  18. boxingnerd2385

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    I understand my dude
     
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    This is part of the reason why I think the Sanyo Shinkansen might be a better choice for the first bullet train route, once it finally comes about. (And I'm one of quite a few people who've requested the Tokaido Shinkansen in the past ;))

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    JR Central and JR West tend to cascade older Shinkansens to the Sanyo Shinkansen section of the line between Tokyo and Hakata, modifying their configuration to run on the all-stops Kodama and limited-service Hikari, so for TSW, this could allow a fairly varied mix of train designs, and more options for shorter services/scenarios too. Set the route in 2008, and you'd have options for almost every series of Shinkansen that ran on the Tokaido/Sanyo Shinkansen up to that point, ranging from the original 0 series units, which were on their way to retirement at that time, all the way up to the first batch of N700(A) sets, which had spent 3 years in service by that point! If DTG, UW (or anyone else who were developing the route) wanted to be extra generous, they c
     
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  20. SuperExpressMizuho

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    It would be a tad long, though not as nearly as long as stretches on the Tokaido Line, but I would suggest the segment between Shin-Osaka and Okayama terminals for the Sanyo Shinkansen.

    Doing so, you would 4 major Shinkansen terminals (3 which all trains call at 100% of the time (Shin-Osaka, Shin-Kobe, and Okayama), and 1 where some Nozomi services will pass (Himeji)), as well as about 2 intermediate services for Kodama services to stop at and get passed (Nishi-Akashi and Aioi).

    You would also get 2 Shinkansen yards, one just beyond Osaka on the way to Tokyo in Setsu, and one in Okayama just passed Okayama station on the way to Hiroshima, which would give depot moves to add into the timetable.

    I would love to be able to drive N700A, and especially 0-series, Shinkansen in TSW; even though I normally would be on the side saying a Shinkansen route would be kinda boring in comparison to their conventional line trains. They'd just need to model a comparatively densely packed Shinkansen station segment, and I agree the Sanyo Shinkansen Line would be the best contender.
     

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