Upcoming Release Cargo Line Vol.4 - Coming Soon!

Out of principle and political reasons, I will never buy this pack

 

Nice to see the first ever military contents in TSW5.
In this DLC, there are two military vehicles, one is tracked armed personnel carrier, the another is Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle (MRAP), and here I would guess what kind of vehicles irl are they based on.
It seems like the armed personnel carrier in this DLC is based on the famous M113.

APC in this DLC (up), M113 IRL (below)

And the MRAP in game might based on the Mastiff PPV (British version of the Cougar 6×6 MRAP), but they are some difference exist (maybe due to the license issue)

But I think it would be better for Skyhook to model the APC based on those british made APC like Alvis Stormer or FV510 Warrior. (some change in appearance is need to aviod license issue)


Or maybe they can make this

Although it is a pity that weapons or ammunition can't appear on the military vehicles in this DLC , but this DLC still look cool and awesome, hope that we can expect more Cargo line vol developed by Skyhook, or maybe in one day, a new modern day UK freight locomotives like Class 68, 70 or 93.

 

Hiya,
To confirm, we were not permitted to exactly replicate any real military vehicles. Cargo Line Vol.4 Military only provides interpretations of the real vehicles. We were also not permitted to represent certain equipment such as guns or munitions on the vehicles.

 

I will get it to add to my time table collection that the lease I could do. More traffic.

 

I guessed that since it's a game for all ages plus the real life vehicles are under army use so need license to have them in game their do the job know really well u see them go by on a run u not going to think it's not got any guns not real

 

Nice! I'll be getting this. Now we just need a release date for the GWE remaster.

 

To celebrate this pack, I'll have to drag out my TSC copy of the S&D with the old Bullied Q1 hauling armed tanks, big guns and Spitfire fusilages while bombs fall and arial combat goes on in the wartime skies above.

Great stuff!!

 

What looks to be another great pack from Skyhook

 

A bit nitpicky, but the coming soon article for Volume 2 says it adds scenarios, not services to the route.

 

Who knows if DTG (or whoever for it) will be able to do something similar for the German railways, before the third world war breaks out...

 

Would love to see maybe a yellow type bulldozer option for engineers trains as well.

Hentis

 

Does military hardware still get transported by train these days?

 

And the Class 86 pack…

CP4 probably something I would pick up in a sale. And while noting the military equipment has been nerfed somewhat, still a slightly controversial choice given the various conflicts going on around the world at present.

 

Now we need to bully (pleasantly) Adam into Cargo Line Vol.5 "COAL" LucaZone

 

Is there ever a time when the world is totally devoid of wars? Even if it were, there's always plenty of military equipment and munitions being moved around. I don't see this pack as controversial any more than military aircraft in a flight sim.

 

True enough, I mean I don't have a problem with it myself other than it's yet another boring Class 66 hauled consist (the loco, not the wagons and loads). In fact, enable the guns on any tanks and take potshots at the loco, reduce it to scrap!

 

It comes with a class 47 for the WCML journeys, and the trusty class 66 for others.

 

Unfortunately, the cargo in this pack does not look as realistic as that in the TSC Bullied Q1 dlc which had tanks with guns, armored trucks and Spitfire/Hurricane fusilages. Admittedly historical but more fun to look at and haul around. Plus the dogfights above. In comparison, this military cargo looks kinda meh.

Of course that was steam, not allowed on TSW these days.

 

Well, as someone with a degree in Contemporary Military and International History, I will definitely be picking this pack up.

Plus, of course, I'm perfectly happy to add some more stock on to Preston-Carlisle, one of my main motivations in choosing which add-ons to buy these days, is what it adds to my existing favourite routes.

 

On the UK, yes from time to time.

Hentis

 

Pretty sure I've seen that on trains in California also, where there are many military bases.

 

Yes seen loads in tge states on the US rail cams.

Hentis

 

Yes military equipment still gets moved by train they get transported to different military bases

 

Really pleased to see this runs with the Class 47 on WCML. Hopefully there won't be any seperate timetable shenanigans like with vol 3, looking foward to running these alongside the 87 and 86, and also seeing them trundling the opposite direction whilst operating the new 86 which surely can't be too far away now.

 

Still existing loco though which most of us played to death and a 47/4 to boot which would rarely be found on freight workings. Should be a (non ETH) 47/0 or 47/3.

 

Can't wait

 

Rare but far from unknown.
47492 made it to Pembroke Dock on a train of military vehicles in 1985.

 

-Some suggestions for new UK freight packs:
-Coal Train w/ new loco (maybe a Class 70, 56, 58, or 60)
-Nuclear Flask Train w/ Stadler Class 68

-US Freight pack ideas:
-Continuous Welded Rail Train
-UP Rocket Booster Train (for Sherman Hill)
-Ethanol or Oil Train
-Autorack Train w/ new articulated autoracks or Gunderson Multimax cars (or a mix of older and newer cars, just like real life)
-BNSF or MRL Boeing Fuselage Train (BNSF Stevens Pass/Scenic Sub, Marias Pass, or MRL routes needed)
-NS Roadrailer Train (or maybe Conrail, if we get that license) for HSC
-Coal Train w/ new coal hoppers for Sherman Hill
-Iron Ore Train (DM&IR or CN route in Minnesota, maybe?)
-Wind Turbine Train
It's amazing what crazy huge and heavy loads can be carried on a freight train.

-Some other great ideas:
-Also, OCS/Business Trains for UP (w/ #4014, #844, and E9s; #6936 and #3985 would be awesome too), CSX (w/ F40PHs), NS (w/ F9s or SD60Es), and BNSF; also Conrail w/ E8s
-Excursion Trains w/ steam or diesel power: ATSF #3751/#2926 for Cajon, UP steam and E9s for Sherman Hill, N&W #611, NKP #765,, PRR #1361, and SP #4449

 

lf you want DTG to take notice, l recommend you put these comments in the Suggestions Section please.

 

Especially as the post you referenced is hijacking a UK specific add on announcement with a wishlist for American stuff!

 

Cheeky. ( But interesting ).

 

I have a question about the 66. Will it have the incredibly bright headlights on "old" routes like the WCML South one? If so, it might spoil the GWE experience a bit until the remaster finally comes.

 

I believe the Class 66 is the DTG DB red version that originates from the ECML route. Skyhook have not made any changes to the 66 or 47 that are used with CL4

 

Considering this comes with a separate timetable on WCMLOS, will this also take the Class 86 into account when it‘s released?

 

Where did you see that this comes with a separate timetable for Shap? I had been waiting to find out but hadn't seen anything yet.

 

Just seen that on British Ace's video, I do wish they would stop creating seperate timetables. It's just 8 services on what is a reasonably quiet route, you would think they would have slotted in fine to the existing timetable, but now we won't ever see this as AI unless we specifically choose the alternative timetable, and as you say does that mean we won't ever see the MOD freight at the same time as the 86?

 

In British Ace‘s first look video.

 

LucaZone why it’s not on the Base Timetable?
It’s a no Buy from me because i don’t Like multiple timetables for the Same Route

 

Hiya,
Thanks for the question. When we sought permission from Just Trains to expand the default timetable, they said no. It is their route and their prerogative, and we respect that.

 

Besides, it would be weird to have 66s running alongside BR Blue 86s and 87s

 

It’s the Class 47 not 66

 

Cargo Line 4 utilises the class 47 locomotive on Preston - Carlisle route, not the class 66

 

There were no MRAPs in the 80s

 

The Blue Version because it’s the Just Trains Loco
https://www.youtube.com/live/wu6Up19s_uk?si=pir2HSz-uINWjZ5L

 

If I had a nickel for every time someone questioned a 66 being on an 80s route despite it being mentioned multiple times that the 47 from the route itself would be used I'd have... actually way more than 2 nickels

 

I guess I’m gonna go ahead and buy this pack and pretend like it actually doing what it is actually gonna do.

 

Many people don't bother to read or lookup the answer to what they require, that's why the facebook tsc site is also littered every day with people asking the same thing, that's been answered a billion times already, or the answer is readily available somewhere else if they spent 30 seconds looking. I feel like these would be the same people that would burn their house down waiting on a forum reply, rather than calling the fire brigade or taking sensible actions themselves.

 

Will the upcoming JT Class 86 & Mk2f coaches also be included in the Military timetable after they release Adam?

 

Will this be on the West Coast Main Line South?