Upcoming Release Class 86/2 Loco Add-on: Coming Soon!

Just thinking that after reading no streams. Maybe as others have said, adding some final polish or last minute snagging that arose.

 

Or waiting for a "slot". Remember most slots are taken up right now with the next version, 3 routes and 2 locos coming in September. Plus the slots taken up by the blurry texture fixes and urgent memory optimisation builds that doesn't leave many slots left.

 

As long as it's not been delayed for the latest Thomas...

I was hoping that this week's "surprise" stream would be to release it there and then like they did recently with another DLC but alas it was the Sod from Sodor

 

Cargo Line Volume 4 is releasing 5th june

 

This will be deliberately spread out over the rest of the TSW5 operating period. And since there isn't much DLC left, E94 for Linke Rheinstrecke, BR 420 and Class 86, it will be sometime in June and maybe early July

 

I hope this comes out soon. Can't wait to visit Vern's Urn!
MaxPak Tea anyone?

 

Situation still curious as we now have a confirmed release date for the E94 pack, which I’m sure was originally announced later.

But still radio silence surrounding the Class 86…

 

Ultimately DTG hold the cards in terms of release dates.
I wonder if green Thomas pushed a few third party projects back in line for testing/validation

 

I suspect the 420 is being held up for much the same reason it was the first time, when it was planned for Munich: until the route can somehow be optimized or otherwise made not to brutally overload most hardware, they simply can't squeeze it in. The two Frankfurt routes are by far the most demanding DTG (or anyone else) have yet put out, and they crush consoles and weaker PCs.

 

when I read the price was going to be £19.99 I turned the radio off!

 

You’d think their having a laugh but
BR194 / E94 Railtour Pack will release on 24th June for Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5, Epic Games Store, and Steam for €24.99/£19.99/$24.99.

This is the same price, so it looks like it’s the normal price these days.

 

Sadly it looks as if my much wanted RMB will be waiting for a sale. It’s not that I can’t afford it but there comes a time to draw the yellow and red lines. I have no doubt both the JT and TSG offerings will be quality items but the cost also has to be weighed against how much use I get from them. My TSW install is already bloated with barely played content with some, like the Goblin Line, only kept around because of the 710’s layering into WCMLSouth.

 

It really is surprising how everything is increasing in price these days and we have to live with it, even video games. As an OAP l have to be careful with my spending but at present TSW remains high on my list of affordable pleasures.

 

It’s literally the two best third parties so the Quality is guarantee to be amazing and well there’s no guarantee the other parties will do the same like look at west coast main line 1980s and Mittenwaldbahn are the only 32.00 routes in the game and they are the best routes in the game

 

The prices for locos/ game packs, some of which have questionable value and replayability, are approaching what used to be the price for full routes just a couple of years ago.

This trend forces us to be even more selective about buying on release. Best to wait for a sale in most cases. There's one coming up on Steam in a couple of weeks. See you there.

 

There's a few dlc's I'm now waiting to pick up in a sale. It's not that I can't afford it either and used to day1 purchase most tsw dlc. But with all the problems included with tsw lately, tsw is slowly moving down the list of most played games unfortunately.

After doing plenty of full runs on wcmlos the hitching and squelching remains the same as the first run.

 

Me too but mainly because its expensive and would rather do one dlc then get another one instead of hoarding as such.

 

The price doesn't bother me. I know the cost of everything keeps going up at a unprecedented level, so companies need to keep raising the prices.
I like the variety mainly and often buy just for the layers or new liveries.
But the performance has really taken a hit since tsw5.

 

The price as I've said previously is VERY reasonable considering the level of detail and content you'll get (the Class 86 that is). I don't really understand the complaints around pricing considering you'll be getting a Class 86 + Mk2Fs + MK1 RMB. If JT really wanted to milk it the carriage could be sold separately...

I understand it gets pricey when there are players that buy literally every add on... But for me it's affordable and well worth the money, just for the quality and amount of content you'll be receiving. I usually only buy exclusively UK content (well apart from a few decent US passenger routes), so I'm not having to juggle with having to chose one or the other.

I think if people are struggling financially and are having decide what add on they want because of financial constraints, they shouldn't blame the developers, and should scale back and have a 'priority list' of countries and rolling stock that are of more interest, and 'secondary' purchases for content and countries that are not as high in your particular interests.

That was my rule at least (with the exception of LIRR which really ticks all my boxes).

 

I've practically stopped buying DLC since TSW5 was released and don't feel like I'm missing out.
The only full price purchase was WCMLoS, which was absolutely worth it. And I picked up a couple of other things when they were heavily discounted in a sale.

And WCMLoS has proved to be worth every penny as it's a route I keep going back to and will do so even more when the 86 and coaches are released. Most routes quickly lose their appeal as they are so limited in terms of variety or distance, or in some cases both.
The only thing I'm not doing on the route at the moment are the cross-country services as I know the 86 will sub in on them.

 

All the DLCs are too expensive now.
I paid the Double Money for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Switch

 

The problem for me is that TSW5 crashes all the still (Xbox Series S) and so why would I pay £19.99 on something that will crash when I play it? I’m sure that the quality of the add on would be great, but if it what it goes with is unreliable I’m not justifying that cost.

 

That’s not Just Trains fault, the core of tsw 5 just sucks

 

DTG should get TSW5 running smoothly, hopefully instead of compounding the problems with the release of TSW6

 

I don't mind the price tag but the game play has to match in order to open my wallet.

194 - 4 scenarios (across 2 routes) plus a new period timetable.
Class 86 - Simply subs in on existing services passenger X country passenger services only with just 5 new scenarios.

One of these is excellent value for money, the other is overpriced in terms of the gameplay you unlock. Maybe if/when theres more than 1 route to run it on, my opinion will change, but for me its a £15 DLC currently.

 

Back when the only rail simulator game I could play was my model railway, I paid out over £250 for the base, the trackwork and a controller. I made most of my own assets from kits which involved using a cement-like solution, along with a draw full of Airfix paints to make station buildings and loco sheds, finally electric signalling and catenary which I seem to recall cost over £100 too.

Then, if I wanted a loco that would be about £30-£50, coaches and wagons somewhere between £5 and £25 each. Over more than 10 years the collection grew with all of my spare money either going on railway books or model railway rolling stock.

That was in the 1980s. You will be lucky to find a loco for under £100 now.

 

Hardly the same, with those models and layouts you had resale value and some could even be considered an investment (limited editions), plus they were yours to keep and enjoy forever, even after stopping running. Digital software will last a little longer than it is supported with zero resale value and is never technically yours, you have a license to run it and thats as far as it goes.

 

I don't deny any of that and if anything you've justified the difference in price. An "OO gauge" Class 86, 4 mk2s and a Mk1 buffet car (so not a full consist because most model railway layouts aren't big enough for a full train) will cost roughly £300. A virtual one, that needed a similar amount of sunk cost for development, then enough of a profit to sustain the developer's basic needs, is about £30.

That I'll never be able to cradle and sell it eventually (though many collections like mine are boxed-up in the loft, so that "value proposition" is mute in many cases) we're looking at digital train simulators being about 10% of the cost of physical ones. Seems fair to me.

 

A ton of liverys for class 86 and then you have multiple new coaches, like how is not an excellent value?.

and I wouldn’t be surprised if the next just trains route uses them as layers if possible

 

Everyone knows this

 

In terms of gameplay liveries add very little for me personally.

And if/when that happens as I said my opinion may change on if this is value for money, but right now for me it isnt.

You are welcome to have your opinion different to mine, because we all play this game differently.

 

I hope they add the RMB buffet coach in the future as an update because they were seen on the route in the 1980s as well.

Trains in the 1980s - Penrith & Carlisle - August 1988

 

They are better value than scenarios in the term of you can actually use livery’s multiple times but with scenarios it’s incredibly boring replaying them

 

Tinfoil hat time bit I'm beginning to wonder if the delay could be because DTG and JT are bickering over price?
Maybe JT want more than the originally agreed and announced £19.99.

 

No, it's out there now. Been enough PR disasters in TSW, that would be damaging for all parties concerned.

 

Im actually hoping for the opposite, that they're re-evaluating the price since the initial reaction to it. Either way I agree something doesnt seem right with this release.

 

The only thing that makes sense for the delay is problems cropping up in testing, I would much rather a polished release than something buggy, even if it means a few weeks delay.

 

In the past they've pulled routes from release but been open and honest, plus when did they last give us a price and no release date?

 

The price for the latest Thomas DLC was announced 2 weeks before they told us the release date.

 

In the end I don't think it made a lot of sense to release the 86 so close to CL4, especially considering that they are mutually exclusive. I wouldn't be surprised if DTG reached the same conclusion, unfortunately only after the 86 article came out. Perhaps the delay is to try to get the 86 in the CL4 timetable as well, since there doesn't seem to be any technical reason why that can't happen. But, it probably has more to do with misunderstandings and poor communication. C'est la vie.

 

Thomas was a huge hit with the members of this forum

 

There's far more interest in the JT86 than CL4 though, maybe putting a week between them should have been enough.

 

Perhaps that was part of the problem. If people were going to spend the money on the 86 anyway, and it also doesn't work with CL4, then maybe just hold onto your money for another week to get the 86 , and skip CL4 altogether? Now they have been spaced far enough apart that you could buy and play a lot of CL4, and still have that wallet out for the 86.

 

Could also be a clash with the E94 pack and TSG shouted loudest. Certainly both are of interest to me.

 

It's beyond dumb that the 86 and CL4 don't work together. DTG as publisher should insist that they sort it out. Maybe that's what's happening?

 

Sorry if I sound dumb but what is the CL4 that you’re all talking about?

 

No worries. Cargo Line IV, which is the military cargo pack, by Skyhook Games.

 

And honestly you’re making a smart decision. Never pay full retail when these things go for pretty cheap during steam sales. And by then, chances are some of the serious bugs have been sorted out

 

It is smart. Steam has a sale every 3 months - March, June, September and December. So you're never more than a few weeks away from getting a great deal. Sometimes you have to wait a few months. Most people can manage that.

Console players don't get such a good and predictable schedule unfortunately, but they still get occasional sales.

If we all exercise a little patience, this hobby can be a lot less expensive.