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  1. rigolo#8694

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    Good summary of all the packages. I had them all. It was reassuring. However, I didn't have the InvisbleWalls2.0 mod. Thanks
     
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    Im also getting the formation error, I've checked and double checked everything is there.
    Strange.
     
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    I'm also getting the formation error, I've checked and double checked everything is there. Strange.

    Sorry to hear that. In which scenarios do you get the error? Two quick questions.

    1) Does the scenario play? (If may still run even with the error message......it just means that a service (or 2) won't appear......we can then work on trying to sort out where the error is).

    2) What British routes do you NOT have?
    When I was testing some TVL scenarios the tester also had the missing formation error and it turned out that he was missing the GWE Class 101 DMU. (I had used all 3 versions of that DMU in the scenario so that it was possible to apply different liveries to different parts of various trains). The scenarios still ran though and I only spotted it when he sent me a screenshot of the end of the scenario and I could see that two trains were missing.
    All of these scenarios only use BR routes. So to narrow it down a bit can you tell me which British routes, if any, you don't have.

    Thanks.
     
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    If you've got as far as you have then you should've seen Flying Scotsman twice ;)

    There is no reason for you to be signal checked at Five Ways (first or second time) unless you have managed to get yourself out of sequence in the scenario. You sound as if you are running a bit early. Do you have your arrival time at New Street handy? Also did you get overtaken by an AI service whilst you were stopped at New Street? (If not then that might be the issue).

    To be fair, if you managed to get all the way around the Camp Hill loop and back to New Street then you have done well (as also seen a part of the route that not many others have). Did you not get the formation error with this one?
     
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    UPDATE: - Just realised that I never listed the CL20 or the CL31 packs as dependencies for the PGA and PCA wagons. (I had just assumed that they both came with TVL but they don't). If you don't have these two packs then you will end up with missing formations.

    UPDATE 2: - I also forgot PBO and the other version of the TEA tank. (You need the two different tanks to make the 3-car rake of blue & green Greenergy liveried tanks in the later scenarios). Sorry.

    OPINION: If you don't have these packs then I would recommend getting them. (a) They are great packs in their own right. (b) I have used both the locos and wagons extensively in my scenarios for BCC, TVL, GOBLIN and EDN-GLA.
    So you would get plenty of use out of them :)
     
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    In fact, I followed the instructions: I left New Street station at 12:10 to pick up my colleague at University station. Then I departed the station at 12:18 heading back to New Street. However, upon exiting the tunnel and before reaching Five Ways station, there was a red signal and I couldn’t proceed. I waited until 12:40 just in case I had misread something. That’s why I got off the train and ended up falling into the void in the tunnel.

    I tried a few times, loading from a save. Sometimes, TSW bugs when loading from a save, so it may be nothing to worry about for now. I’ll give it another try.

    Thank you.
     
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    What do you mean by "headed back to New Street?" You should continue going forwards after the stop at University? (Definitely no reversing).

    It's a circular scenario. Keep moving forwards and somehow, as if by magic, you will end up back at New Street. :cool:

    After that you carry on to Bromsgrove (passing through University again, this time non-stop) where the scenario ends :)
     
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    Oops… awkward… haha! My misunderstanding!! Thanks for the clarification!

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    But I had never seen a train dive into a cliff before. My NR colleague nearly had a heart attack — he wanted to jump off the train, poor guy!

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    I didn’t know there was magic in TSW! Although, to be fair, there are sometimes people walking in the sky, trees and houses floating above the clouds, and vehicles driving through trains. And sometimes, two trains in the same spot — total Twilight Zone! For example, at the beginning of the scenario, there are two trains on Platform 2 at Birmingham New Street.

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    Amazing, excellent scenario. No issues at all once I understood the loop! Once again, thank you for your great work.

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    Glad we got there in the end with this one. :)
    Did you ever get the earlier scenarios to work correctly? Only I'm now quite baffled as to how you have got everything else to work?

    Here are a few more screenshots of a Central liveried CL158 working the other way around the Camp Hill line.
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    And a few more :)
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    From a scenario, and a livery, that will be uploaded shortly :cool:
     
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    Top & Tail Class 37 Ballast scenario on BCC now released and uploaded to the Hub.
    Creators Club - 08:27 Lichfield Ballast (DJ)
    Links to the Liveries and Mods required for this are detailed on page 1 of this thread.

    Although it is a freight scenario there is a timetable that players should try to achieve. This is as follows;
    Scenario start:- 08:10hrs
    Expected departure from Longbridge:- 08:27hrs
    University arr:- 08:47hrs
    New Street arr:- 08:55hrs / dep:- 08:57hrs
    Aston arr:- 09:06hrs
    Four Oaks (pass):- 09:18hrs
    Lichfield City arr:- 09:34hrs.

    At Lichfield City there is a requirement to move to the cab of the trailing CL37 locomotive to drive your train into the stabling siding (where the scenario will end). It is possible to stay in the cab of the front scenario to do the last part of this scenario but, if you choose this course, then you will need to enter the rear loco's cab at the very end of the scenario otherwise it won't complete.

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  14. rigolo#8694

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    Thanks for the follow-up! I double-checked and confirmed that I have everything needed using the links from the original post. So, below, I’ve copied links. I tried loading them using just two methods (A & B). I’ll update the post once I’ve had a chance to play the ones that work for me.

    Option A : CREATORS CLUB/Scenario Planner/Birmingham Cross-City
    Option B : CREATORS CLUB/ONLINE SHARING HUB/SUBSCRIPTIONS/[scenario's name]/MORE INFO/PLAY SCENARIO

    Scenarios
    Creators Club - 14:21 CL158 Central Bromsgrove (DJ) : A-OK & B-OK : Not tried yet
    Creators Club - 08:27 Lichfield Ballast (DJ) : A-ERROR* & B-ERROR (On the platform at Five Ways) : Not tried yet
    Creators Club - New Street Trainspotting (DJ) (12:22 BNS Trainspotting) : A-OK & B-OK : Not tried yet
    Creators Club - NR Flying Banana Circular (DJ) (12:10 NR Circular) : A-OK & B-OK : SUCCESS
    Creators Club - 11:40 PCA Freight Divert (DJ) : A-ERROR* & B-Starting point: Class 66 cab (66043) : Not tried yet

    Creators Club - 10:15 University 2 Four Oaks (DJ) : A-ERROR* & B-ERROR (On the platform at Sutton Coldfield) : Not tried yet
    Creators Club - 19:20 CL323 Lichfield ECS (DJ) (19:20 CL323 ECS Move) : A-ERROR* & B-Starting point: Class 323 cab (323211) - Lichfield Trant Valley: Not tried yet
    Creators Club - 10:41 CL170 Bromsgrove 2 BNS Fast (DJ) (10:41 Bromsgrove 2 BNS) : A-OK & B-OK : SUCCESS

    *Load error : Formation cannot be used with this scenario, please choose another formation.

    Maybe I need the assets from your other scenarios.

    Thank you very much for your work — I hope this will be useful to you.
     
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    Well this one is easy to resolve. There is no "Play" button because this ISN'T a scenario. It's a link to a livery ;)
    You just subscribe to it in the normal way (either in-game or via the website).

    These 3 are also Liveries. Again just subscribe to them in the normal fashion. (In-game or website).
    They are all uploaded now so you should be able to subscribe to them.....assuming you have the relevant base model?

    Mind you lack of a livery will not affect whether a scenario will run out not. If you don't have a livery mod then that model will simply appear in its default form. (ie any HSTs will be in GWR livery rather than Cross Country).

    So these are the 4 scenarios that you cannot load? (But you can load the other 4?).
    This suggests to me that they is something in these scenarios that you don't have on your system.
    I'll see if I can find a common theme.
     
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    Oops, you’re right — my mistake! I already had the liveries, but I didn’t pay attention when copying the links. Re-oops!
     
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    Exactly, I can’t load those 4 scenarios using Method A. However, with Method B, I’m in the train for two of them (see images).

    Creators Club - 08:27 Lichfield Ballast (DJ) :
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    Creators Club - 10:15 University 2 Four Oaks (DJ)
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    Creators Club - 11:40 PCA Freight Divert (DJ) :
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    Creators Club - 19:20 CL323 Lichfield ECS (DJ) :
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    The 2 scenarios where you start in the cab look OK to me. The cabs are correct, the locations are correct, the times are correct and the two proposed departure times are also correct. So that is good. :)

    I believe that these 2 scenarios will actually run despite you missing some formations. I believe that, in these 2 cases, all that will happen is that the services with missing formations just won't appear when you play the scenario. (The Lichfield ECS one is the easiest to test as it is, basically, a train spotting scenario with a short run to Lichfield City at the end).

    The two scenarios where you start on a station platform are interesting and strange. Are you kicked out to the same location each time?

    This suggests to me that there is something wrong with the player service. However the two scenarios have different player locos so, unless you are two things missing on your system, it doesn't make sense. (The ballast scenario uses the WCL CL37 and Seacows as the player consist whereas the University/Four Oaks one uses the CL710 as the player loco. Most odd). I wonder if the location you are kicked out to is significant. I'll see what starts at Five Ways and Sutton Coldfield respectively.

    In the meantime can you confirm that you have the West Cornwall route? (for the CL37 and/or Seacows).
     

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