Is there a compilation of what trains run on what routes? For diesels it's rather easy (barring gauge sizes which TSW kinda lets you do anyway) For electric trains though, there's so many different voltages and phases, let alone some are third rails. Are any trains cross compatible outside their home route in free roam? (Without the whole "hook a diesel up to it" nonsense) =-) I'd like to use some of the UK electrics on German routes and vice versa, but so far they don't seem to be compatible. (Yes I know not "realistic" but it's free roam)
I don't know if there is a full list, but I think some trains that can work with different electrification types in-game are: Class 380, 700, Acela, ACS-64, ALP-46, SNG - any overhead Most UK trains - 25kV 50Hz AC Class 377, 378, 387, 395, 700, 701 710 - 750V DC (third rail), 25kV 50Hz AC Class 801 - 25kV 50Hz AC, anywhere (using emergency diesel engine) Class 484 - 630V DC (fourth rail), 750V DC (third rail) Most US trains - 25kV 60Hz AC M3, M7, M9 - 750V DC (third rail) Most German trains - 15kV 16.7Hz AC BR 193, BR 406 (Ludwigsbahn version only) - 1.5kV DC (overhead), 15Kv 16.7Hz AC, 25kV 50Hz AC TGV - 1.5kV DC (overhead), 15Kv 16.7Hz AC, 25kV 50Hz AC ABe 8/12 - 1kV DC (overhead), 11kV 16.7Hz AC Routes UK - 25kV 50Hz AC, 750V third rail (southeast and parts of London), 630V fourth rail (London Underground, Isle of Wight) USA - 25kV 60Hz AC, 750V third rail (LIRR, Metro-North) Germany - 15kV 16.7Hz AC France - 25kV 50Hz AC, 1.5kV DC overhead (around Marseille) Netherlands - 1.5kV DC overhead Switzerland - 1kV DC overhead (Berninalinie), 11 kV AC 16.7Hz (Arosalinie), 15kV 16.7Hz AC (Luzern - Sursee) (Hopefully that is all correct)
Thanks man! Dunno if they're accurate, but worth a shot to experiment in game anyway. So basically any German loco can go on the SLS route? And the French LGV can go on British routes like the WCML? Too bad the UK and US are just a bit off. So close! ACS-64 can go.... anywhere? Is that a bug or intentional design? I know there's multiple different voltages in the Northeast, so it might make sense for it to be very flexible in what it can use.
Well the Vectron is definitely not working on UK routes, either the Frankfurt or the Dresden ones. (I don't have the Flixtrain one.) Oh well. Edit: I apologize I poked around for way longer than I wanted to and found out you can change a LOT of stuff in the Vectron, including the display language and the voltages. If you set it to the Austrian 25Kv it will work in the UK. Wow
The ACS can operate under the entirety of the electrified NEC, and technically under any AC-energized catenary energized with the same specs (25kv/60hz, 12kv/25hz). As far as I know, the only trains on the Corridor that cannot navigate the voltage differences are the NJT Arrow EMU's, which can't change on the fly like the modern trains can. The LIRR trains and Metro-North trains cannot run over each other's lines without physically flipping their third rail shoes. Even though they're both 750 DC, Metro-North uses under-running third rail while LIRR uses over-running. I *think* some of the M8's were built with shoes that can adjust on the fly, but don't quote me on this.
I wonder if the LIRR trains could use the 750DC on say East Coastway. I did find it odd that the ACS-64 works on Settle-Carlisle. I don't know if the working on the 25KV/50 Hz was a bug or real world it can do that. Was kinda neat though.
I don't see why the LIRR trains wouldn't be able to, on paper they should. Loading gauges would probably be an issue, but the juice and third rail setup are the same.
I'd find it odd that the ACS-64 it works for two reasons: 1/ We don't yet have Settle-Carlisle. 2/ Even if we did, there's no electrification!
Correction here Germany and Austria use the same 15kv 16.7hz PZB 1.95m Pantographs Switzerland is 15kv 16.7hz narrow strip of Carbon/Copper at 1.45m The United States has two OHLE voltages 11kv 16.7hz ac and 25kv 60hz that is your Northeast Corridor Trenton to Boston route via Providence
Okay, but in game is there a difference between the two German/Austrian types when they're the same voltage? They may be not the same in real life, but do they work in game with different trains?
Not sure about licensing, but this makes me more optimistic about someday seeing more French railway action in game. With so many routes on France's borders (several German, the Netherlands route I can't spell and the Channel link via SEHS) that would be a logical choice for expansion if licensing wasn't an issue...
Worth noting the specific TGV we have in TSW (1st gen Duplex, 200 series) should not be able to run under 15 kV. Never tried spawning one in Germany so I don't know if the AI services (standing in for 3rd gen Euroduplex 3UA, 4700 series) still work due to AI not caring about overhead voltage or if it's a mistake (voluntary or not).
The voltage is the same, and older less sophisticated locos like the 1020 and 110/111 can cross the border without issues. It's the bells and whistles on newer computerized trains like the Taurus and Vectron that are different.
One correction for the OP: the 377/1's, as found on BML and ECW, are DC-only; they don't have pantographs. Only the WCML version (377/2) is dual mode.
