Off The Rail Time Table.

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  1. ericb

    ericb Active Member

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    What do you guys think off the rails for time table services. This could be separated. One for off the rails added with time table services. And one with the regular services. Do you think that asking for to much. I kinda think this would be good for putting any train on any service with out limitations. But continue to fellow the rules for train signal lights. I kinda thought having time table services for off the rails would be kinda interesting but yet fun. Well then that way we don’t have to worry about having to place trains. At other locations unless you want to do that. Yeah there will be bugs yes problems as always. But yet then again you can remove the add on you don’t want in the menu. This is just a suggestion maybe for TSW6 probably. This would limit time adding and removing. It doesn’t matter I just want your thoughts on it to speed up the process. You’ll have both time table services running at the same time. One for off the rails time table services. and one for your regular time table services. This might be stupid but who knows.
     
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  2. Clumsy Pacer

    Clumsy Pacer Well-Known Member

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    I think being able to run any train on any service wouldn't do much harm, so long as it's ONLY the player's train. Just make sure the player is aware it's only been tested with the trains you're meant to use (maybe highlight them?) and it may cause issues with completing the service.
     
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    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Yes, there’s been a couple of threads recently where being able to substitute anything from the loco to the entire train on a timetable run - within reason - has been suggested. An example might be changing out the Class 87 on a WCMLOS run with a Class 47/4. Or more prosaically using a Class 153 (or pair) instead of the original 150/2 on WCL.
     
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    Clumsy Pacer Well-Known Member

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    I was more thinking along the lines of OMSI, which dumps you in the game world and you spawn a bus from a list (which contains every playable vehicle in your 'Vehicles' folder) at a location of your choice, then you select your timetable. AI buses are handled completely separately, although you can give up the bus to the AI... which will promply drive it off the map (not sure if that's intentional).
     
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    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have used that feature to drive one of the London new Routemaster buses around the Yorkshire Coast map. When I could get OMSI2 to work of course…
     
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  6. BeenTrain

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    How about having no timetable, so that you can drive updated, older or newer timetables by yourself. Kind of Quickdrive in TSC but then with the ability to pick out your stops/path.
     
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    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

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    Matt has previously acknowledged the many requests to be able to substitute the train you drive in timetable mode with another, and has said the team will look at it.

    I think it would be one of the biggest improvements possible with the game, properly realising the potential of timetable mode, which is already one of the games most popular features.

    I can’t imagine it would be incredibly difficult, but I may be failing to realise the complexity. Fingers crossed for TSW6.
     
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  8. SonicScott91

    SonicScott91 Well-Known Member

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    Isn't this what free roam is for? You can load in any train and drive it within the timetable. I personally don't want to see "Off the Rails" mode assigned to entire timetables, I'd prefer to keep the timetables as prototypical as possible.
     
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    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

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    With ‘Off the Rails’ and Free Roam you can drive a train within the timetable, but you can’t run it on one of the schedules. You have no times to operate to, no scheduled stops, no passengers getting on/off etc. It all feels a bit detached.

    The proposal is that you should be able to actually operate a schedule within timetable mode using a different train. It isn’t proposed that you’d be forced to do it though. You’d still be able to choose to just stick to the scheduled train.

    In terms of ‘prototypical’ though, it should be pointed out that substitution of trains is common in real life. A 150 instead of a 153, an 86 instead of an 87, longer and shorter formations than booked and map on - it was, and remains, common in real life. What is unprototypical is to have every train in the timetable formed of exactly the same formation, every time - as currently occurs on TSW in Timetable Mode.
     
  10. Clumsy Pacer

    Clumsy Pacer Well-Known Member

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    A rather infamous example was a pacer (143601) once deputised for a 158 and ended up going from Bristol to London and back!
     
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