Wouldn't it be great, to have a route that is right next to the English coast line? The Riviera Line is a UK route that runs largely along the edge and offers views of some beautiful open spaces and cliffs. The Line connects the historic city of Exeter with the sandy beaches and pastel-hued buildings of Paignton. Bidding farewell to Exeter, the train races along the banks of the River Exe towards the romantically named village of Starcross. Keep your eyes peeled for seals and sea otters as you skim the water’s edge. From Starcross, the track hugs the coast as it weaves through the seaside resorts and fishing ports of Dawlish Warren, Dawlish, and Teignmouth. This section of the route is especially scenic It goes along the coastline for a few kilometers the main intermediate station is Dawlish where many tourists spend their holidays. This place has the most impressive landscapes, tunnels and small villages along the railway line.In particular the open plain and the rocks together with the sea make this really unique, especially for a railway line in the UK. This route is also known among TS classic fans, but with the visual effects of TSW 5 this route could really become a top DLC Stations Exeter Central Exeter St David's Exeter St Thomas Marsh Barton Starcross Dawlish Warren Dawlish Teignmouth Newton Abbot Torre Torquay Paignton Most trains on this line are GWR marked, a return of these would be fantastic! A fun opportunity to add new gameplay effects such as water effects. Depending on the weather conditions Dawlish Sea Wall Cab View YouTube: Info about the Line 28 mile (45km) long non electric Operating speed 60 mph (97 km/h) Opened 1846 Stations 11 The rolling stock classes 150, 158, 166, 43, 220, 221, 800, 802 Some unique opportunities to convert existing trains to tsw such as the class 150, 166, 800, 43 Please feel free to give your opinion about this subject. source reference:Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riviera_Line
Had it on TSC it’s a very nice route. You have st. Thomas and st. David’s so I think adding Exeter Central to Paignton would be good for a modern route.
Great suggestion seen many times before. To give even more variety, how about putting the Dartmouth steam railway to Kingswear into the same pack. This would give you mainline services and a heritage line all in one.
Good idea! The area surrounding Dartmouth looks really incredible. Maybe a GWR steam locomotive would be cool too.
For someone who lives not far from this line yes I would love it but playability wise there's nothing much like longer distances between stations like have any Paddington to Penzance/Plymouth services
I think he means those are all the the trains in-game that could be layered on I.e 166 and 43, the 150 and 158's would just be re-skins, the only new trains should probably be the 800, 802 as they're basically the same train and their models are basically already if the game, just a few tweaks needed.
Now the GWR licence is back, this would be nice to see! Not so fond of a low speed limit, but the idea of driving alongside the Dawlish Sea Wall is nice - good scenery!
I´m always suprised that this has not been done yet... would look great in the game. Same goes for Pacific Surfliner by the way.
While I’m sure they’re all very nice trains, other than the 45 I don’t know what any of them are lol - I think they must’ve been and gone before my time
All my hopes are that this is a TSW6 core route or just trains are going to make it. The cherry on top would be that it includes the line to Kingswear and the introduction of a GWR steam loco or two, perhaps a Manor or Castle and being greedy a Pannier too.
For your assistance, here are the listed classes for your reference with necessary additional information. This is the Class 42 Warship. These were diesel hydraulic locomotives. There were actually 2 classes, 42 and 43 and they differed with BRs Class 42 having Maybach engines and Mekydro transmission, NBL built the Class 43 with MAN engines and Voith transmission. One Class 42 was unique being fitted with Paxman Ventura engines. All were withdrawn by 1972. The Class 46 Peak locomotives were practically the same as the Class 45 but had different electrical equipment, I believe by Crompton Parkinson. The Class 50 is much requested and was a regular performer on routes out of Paddington from around 1976. They replaced the venerable Class 52 Western by 1977. The Class 52 Western should be familiar as it is currently used with WSR and DLoGW routes/packs in Maroon and Blue respectively. Class 120 was a first generation diesel mechanical multiple unit built by Swindon Works for cross country diagrams. Mechanically very similar to Class 101 with longer coaches and interior specifications suitable for longer distance services. Often seen around the Western Region outside of London with Class 123 being used in the London area during the 1970s. Note the second car of the set in the photo is a buffet car. Hope this helps to give you an idea of the types mentioned.
I highly recommend the following books by Hugh Longworth as useful research material for anyone unfamiliar with older types of locomotive and units on BR.
I just came over all faint seeing that picture. And as we’ve mentioned previously, although mechanically similar to the 101’s, the AEC engines managed to sound a bit different, more throaty and of course the infamous brief rasp from the exhaust stacks on pullaway. Fantastic DMU’s.
Another nice option on the coastline would be the difference between high and low tide. Depending on the day and night This would be a really cool feature to see in this route. example other location
Requested so many times and in so many epochs. Consistently ignored by DTG equally as many times... Very strange as it's a route that on paper hits every LAMPOIL requirement out of the park.
I guess that depends on what era we're looking it. WHEN would this route be set? That would change it a bit. Not so much the landmarks, but the rolling stock, licensing, etc. I know there is a hesitancy by DTG themselves to do anything "old" which is why TSG and JT are doing anything not "modern." So don't expect DTG to do it, but there's a chance a third party could pick it up. Their plates seem pretty full at present, but maybe someone is already sitting on it as a future goal.
Day one purchase from me if it's modern. Would be great if it went to Exmouth. Berks and hamts route is the option I play on TS classic at the moment. I mentioned the riviera line on a live stream once and matt said it wouldn't be until the dawlsh sea defences are.finished. well they are now so you never know...
Fantastic idea, would never happen though realising two combined routes in one, maybe though apart of course. Not sure myself of the requests for these routes from the community but a great idea none the less
The 50s version...because it's the 1950s. TSW is not a fan of the "old stuff." Can't say DTG...because TSC is still DTG. It's just seen as the "proper" place to put older stuff on TSC.
I mean the fact DTG have got the licenses for both TOC's that run this route means the likelihood of this coming in TSW 6 is very high now
As a whole it would be... okay. We have most of the rolling stock in game so it wouldn't add much there (apart from a Voyager maybe?) It's only 28 miles, so people might complain about that. It's a nice looking line I suppose and sort of famous. I think it's connected to the Dartmouth Steam Railway which might be fun if TSW ever wanted to get into steam (doubtful) but might justify a rail tour? Would it make sense to extend it to Taunton which is a natural point of extension for the WSR and onward eastward building towards Bristol/Cardiff or GWE? Then you can connect from Exeter to the WCL. Might be a good "link" in the chain and going up to Taunton would make it about 60ish miles which is better. A bit more work, but a lot more connections. I don't know enough about the timetables to know if that'd be worth it (where do trains actually switch out if you were riding from say London to Paignton in real life?)
I'd love to see this, it's very scenic, and Exeter is where I grew up. My preference would be the sectorisation era with a lovely IC swallow HST, but would take modern, as we have plenty of stock we can layer on to whatever comes new. Ideally you'd also include the line to Plymouth and/or the Avocet line, which is partly visible from this line.
I’d love to see the Avocet Line included. Many memories of this from 1989/90 as a recruit at Lympstone. I remember getting on the troop train for Christmas Leave to get the masses up the line. My wife and I revisited the area in 2021 which brought back a lot of good and bad memories
I would probably extend the suggestion to Taunton as that would mean a longer drive but also it’s got Whiteball bank and (yes let’s not start the debate) but it would be better for steam tours like the English Riviera Express as that’s where the steam joins then train
I think that extending it to Plymouth would be better, allows for a new cornish route and gives more variety where you can split off at Newton Abbot, and it also includes Laira TMD so more variety and you get the South Devon Banks aswell
Plymouth definitely better than Taunton. From Newton Abbot it’s basically hill work all the way which, while not challenging to a Cucumber or Voyager, would sit nicely with an older traction layer. Even the HST’s used to struggle on Hemerdon and Rattery, particularly in leaf fall season and were only allowed between Newton Abbot and Plymouth if both power cars were working.
