Xbox Series X Tsw5 - Br 193 Vectron - Test Train Scenario - Not Receiving Points For Using Safety Systems

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  1. bjornw44

    bjornw44 New Member

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    Hi all, new player here. Just completed the Test Train scenario with Sifa/Pzb/Lzb on but not received any points for using safety systems. I’ve restarted the scenario and noticed Player Assist telling me that ATB needs to be on too. Can’t find any references to ATB in relation to this loco, only that it is a Dutch safety system? Am I doing something wrong here? Any help is appreciated :love:
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    What route is that scenario on.
     
  3. jesper2805

    jesper2805 New Member

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    To be honest... ATB and PZB/LZB turn on together is impossible.... So strange whats wrong here... What i've noticed that this loco has different bugs since it has been implemented with ATB. So its not your'e direct fault more how the loco is build.
     
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    bjornw44 New Member

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    Sorry forgot to mention. It’s Frankfurt - Fulda: Kinzigtalbahn, playing in Xbox GamePass.
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    Ah ok thank you. I did notice that the UI tooltip actually mentions ATB when hovering over the Pzb isolator switch.. Much confusion :D
    (Also sorry for the delayed responses, my posts require mod approval still)
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    So this Bug is back again! The only trains that have ATB are in the new Spoorlijn Zwolle - Groningen Route, and it has a BR 193 in DB Red livery for several scenarios. All German trains have Sifa, PZB, LZB, and that is it. It seems that when TSW was prepatched for its release, or maybe when an update, or even a patch was pushed out, that annoying pop-up, if you will, shows up to remind you to activate the safety systems like ATB for more points. And it's no small popup either, I was seeing it in US freight trains as well as in the UK trains also.

    DTG needs to correct this, the same DB Red BR 193 from Frankfurt - Fulda is in the Spoorlijn Zwolle - Groningen Route, it seems like when they added that EXTREMELY large pop-up as shown in your one image bjornw44 it was added to all of the same locos. You may want to file a support ticket.
     
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    bjornw44 New Member

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    Thanks all. Since yesterday I've learnt that I can switch over to ATB if I drop the panto and change the system to Dutch 1.5kV or 25kV, though this action does not make sense in the context of the scenario/location. But even if this did do the trick as a hacky work-around, ATB sort of "replaces" PZB so then I guess the game would probably end up complaining about PZB being off :D

    I shall go and submit that bug report
     
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    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    You think like I do, keep trying :) and exhaust all available options.
    So, on A German Route in a German Loco, you can switch to ATB? That does not add up, when the "Spoorlijn Zwolle - Groningen Route" was being released, DTG did a live stream, and they even talked about how ATB is even easier to work with than PZB. It's a 3-hour live stream and the March 2025 Roadmap, why on earth would this safety system be put in/on a German route, which has none of the systems to make ATB work as in the "Spoorlijn Zwolle - Groningen Route", or is it set up this way because the Loco is the Dutch route, but then if that is the case it would not work at least not in way I understand it, and I'm missing something.
     

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