Out Now Köln - Aachen Timetable Update - Out Now On Steam!

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  1. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    Why is a Class700 on Köln Aachen?
     
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    Should be under layer selector?
     
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    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    Delivery runs I’m guessing - they were built in Germany
     
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    The great news is that this is already possible! Just use layer selection and do it yourself. However, recent discussions have suggested that removing layers may not be the best solution to the blurry textures problem. On the other hand, if you put in the the work and find out, for example, that SKA runs great with certain things removed, that could be helpful for DTG to optimize the game. I do feel that any suggestion to remove something from the game might get pushback from others who don't like it when they lose content. Not that anyone is obligated to worry about how others perceive them, but if you want to be taken seriously it can sometimes help to consider the point of view of others.
     
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    The Layer selection is pretty bad, First you can’t remove Subs like the 112 and 114 on RE Services, and Second You can’t Save the Settings for all, Because the Game activated Everything again
     
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    The layer selection tool is definitely pretty bad as you say, primarily because it doesn't save anything. So, no argument there. But, that does not preclude you from experimenting yourself and finding out if some of your proposals actually work. I also doubt that excluding specific locos, but keeping the layers would have much of an effect on performance. The focus should be on fixing what is wrong with the game. Content removal should not be a serious consideration.
     
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    DTG deleted the whole Subs for Frankfurt S-Bahn because of the Bad Memory Optimization.
    That’s why there is only the 143 with Dostos or the Vectron for any freight Service available on PC
     
  8. chrissiracer#7214

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    Hey, wir haben den 23.Mai. Und noch nicht den neuen Fahrplan für Köln Aachen für Ps5 . Ebenso gibt es keine Informationen von Matt und Kollegen, ob dieser Fahrplan überhaupt noch kommt. Er ist für mich Voraussetzung für den Kauf der Strecke S-Bahn Frankfurt. Obwohl die für die Ps5 reduziert ist.
     
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  9. NateDogg7a

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    I know, it seems kind of crazy that since being released for Steam the new timetable has accidentally been released for both Xbox and PS4, but not PS5 (or Epic). All I can really say is that SKA runs great on Series S (besides texture blurring that is present in much of the game right now) and I hope that it gets "officially" released soon so that everyone can enjoy it.
     
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    True. And, please excuse my French, the PS4 timetable is a complete non-starter for me. No S-Bahn services any more, even in the normal "New Journeys" timetable. No AI freight, no AI InterCity, no AI ICE. So, for me, it makes no sense to use the PS4 version on PS5, either.

    Yes, I know, it was all an accident, so I do not take it too seriously ATM.
     
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  11. d.heal

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    4 weeks since steam and a week before for a accidentally release on ps4 then the bit later accidentally release on xbox still nothing on ps5 and epic games for a release this is becoming a joke
     
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    No it’s good so, it’s a mess on Xbox Series X with blurry textures and Memory leaks
     
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    So I dont have Koln Aachen Timetable (yet!!) or a fully populated Frankfurt S Bahn. But I do have Mildmay line that does struggle with all its thousands of services (both AI and User). Personally for me on Mildmay I use the layers option to remove the 700,395 and 801 as you dont really get to see them from the drivers cab (possibly if you are lucky to see one if you look tot he left or right... (yer supposed to be driving by the way not sight seeing) :p Yes although I have removed those 3 trains (they timetable is still loaded in) The trains are not, there is nothing in memory calculating the trains pathway and then hoping to draw the train when its in your FOV, its not even on the map causing loss in performance. To be honest I would say no to your above request. Learn how to use the use Layering options.

    Why have other people got to suffer because you dont want to see blurry textures?

    Personally Blurry textures (at the moment) do not bother me. I am on PS5 and I did get them alot on the Mildmay line until I removed some of the layers (what I mentioned above). So you can easily remove the layers if you wish.
    I personally would like to make the choice to either use a full or reduced timetable, knowing full well what could happen if I use the full timetable. I know that currentl Matt said he has about 4 or 5 people looking at the memory issues that are plaguing the consoles and TSW 5, I am hopefuly that they will sort this and get a fix out for it (not the Content manager length in time, mind lol). So we can all enjoy busy routes.

    Hentis
     
  15. ApollonJustice

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    Yes, thats a joke. As well as the reduced timetable (on PS5) on Frankfurt S-Bahn!

    On PS5, I practically haven't had any blurry textures on any route since the last Mildmay Line Update.
     
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    Does anyone know when we'll get the Koln Aachen update for PS5? It's been over a month and there's no news.
     
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    How long is a piece of string.


    Probably will never get it.
     
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  18. OnlyMe1909

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    DTG hasn't got time for bringing the new timetable to PS5, they're all too busy working on TSW6.
     
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    Right now its a blurry texture mess on Xbox X so I think they are working on that before release. It was by mistake XBox got it in the first place and not intentional.

    There are rumors of a cut down version in the same fashon as the FSB timetable being worked on.

    But I have no actual idea if that is true or not.
     
  20. NateDogg7a

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    If they do release a cut down version, without keeping the current full-fat version that we already have on Xbox, at least as an option, that will be ridiculous. Even on Series S, I have had very few issues besides the blurred textures, and even then I don't perceive them as more than a minor annoyance. So, if it turns out that DTG can't fix the textures besides just reducing the timetable, at least they could give those of us who aren't so bothered by the blurring, the option to keep on doing what we are already doing.
     
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    I totally agree. I think ours won't change on Xbox and probably PS5 as long as they figure out the where the memory leaks are that cause the blurry textures.

    It sounds like they are on DEFCON 5 trying to solve it so the optimist in me thinks they will figure it out sooner than later. And hence the delay as focus is elsewhere on this issue and the TT has probably been put on simmer for now.

    Perhaps an update on the roadmap.
     
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  22. ApollonJustice

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    I hope, thats not true. Don't want the same bad joke again!:mad:
     
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    Thats why I'm hesitant to believe it.

    It runs fine just the blurry texture issues. But that even happens on ECML so I don't think its the timetables fault.

    Just the core issue.
     
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    That's right. I too don't think, that this ist timetable related.
     
  25. rshifflet#2142

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    PS5 Aachen timetable revamp: my BR111 train is missing in Aachen for second timetable item 10:15;
    Also, last timetable item is a Part 2, but no Part 1 was visible on timetable for BR111.
    On positives, got to BR111 by using filter, so that is working again now.
    Will try again with Advanced options, as tank wagons were in Station as an AI standing freight consist.
    PS
    my Epic Games Köln Revamp BR111 is there with me in cab on Epic Games for 10:16 run.
    I will check Steam and Xbox next ..
    PPS
    Epic Games BR642 still has no key binding for the magnetic brake. At least i can kep my mouse ready there. Just for accessibility, why must we wait SOoo Long ??
    Update:
    The BR111 error i test is RE9(10911) Aachen - Siegen ( i.e., via Köln ) AND it is the Frankfurt-Fulda variant that is bonkers: once i landed standing in some freight yard.
    I have 3 variants available ... the other 2 show up in station, me in cab: Salzburg-R and Mannheim-K both function on PS5.
     
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  26. rshifflet#2142

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    is there a PC mod to give BR642 into Aachen a key binding for the magnetic brake toggle switch on the desk ? It is VERY awkward on PS5 as TSW5 still ignores my USB C mouse, but thankfully not the default key bindings of the Bluetooth keyboard.
    PS
    On Xbox, BR642 is seriously broken. In Revamped timetable, got no indication to board passengers, just told to wait. Only stop to Köln was K-Ehrenfeld. There we were trapped at a frozen red signal: Denied. No Route Available.

    Bored, i flipped off the digi panels. Oops. They could not be turned back on. Reset the train. Both panelsstill off, but now Left could be turned on, but Right panel frozen off. Dang.

    BR 642 166-2 from Horrem
    RB38 (10257) Bedburg (Erft) Köln Messe/Deutz

    Checked msg log ... only Wait and then Stop at Location entry has K-Ehrenfeld platform 3 09:19:00

    Long over-due now for 9:28 ETA Köln ...

    First symptom: not treated as a passenger train.

    Update: went ti test on Steam, but a small TSW5 update had to run...

    On PS5, the BR 642 to Köln on Revamp tt does not have the Digital screen on/off bug ...
    On Steam, BR111 is there for 10:16 Aachen to Köln. So was only missing in station on PS5 ?
     
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  27. rshifflet#2142

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    Sadly, Stolberg station yard was empty for my BR642 run into Aachen.

    To me, empty rail yards are almost as sad in TSW as passengers on the tracks ...
     
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    Aachen realism FAIL
    From the west end of Aachen station. signals are not red for the tracks occupied by passenger trains not departing anytime soon ... will AI trains run in thru those permissive signals ??
     
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    First thing I've done is railfan at Koeln Hbf and it's so cool!
     
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    Finally on PS5 - Great.
    Took a RB20 from Stolberg to Aachen first. Really fine and a good conclusion to use the 642 for those services.
    Then took the ICE 545 from Aachen to Köln.
    Was really fun, but I'm not sure if it is correct that I had been overtaken by a Cargo service at Düren which was slowly driving in front of me until Ehrenfeld. Due to that my arrival at Köln was delayed by about 17 minutes. But felt some kind of realistic ;-)
    Performance was good most time, just got a blurred textures at Düren (took the time of the overtaking to walk around). But, and that's a big change comparing to Frankfurt Fulda, the textures "reloaded" at some point so even at Köln Hbf was fine. Never seen that before, was always blurred stays blurred until end of journey.
    Route felt so good with all the AI services (RB28 for wxample) and filled tracks for example at AC Rothe Erde.
    Thanks so much for giving that nice route a second life
     
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    Yes, finally. It's been too long. Just tried a few services (RB20 both directions, ICE1 Aachen - > Köln) and haven't encountered any major issues yet.
     
  32. chrissiracer#7214

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    Schön, ich probiere es morgen aus. Und gebe dann eine Rückmeldung.
     
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    Just done ICE 15 (Aachen - Koeln at 11:37), and it ran absolutely fine. Not 100% smooth, but definitely not a slideshow, and definitely worth it for what we get. Thanks so much Joethefish!
     
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    English please.
     
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    whats funny is that people still said that epicgames and ps5 would get this in tsw 6 but nope they where very wrong and i already knew they where
     
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    "Great, I'll test it out tomorrow and report back"
     
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    Playing on PS5, I can play FlixTrain services but I can't see them as AI, the ICE T is also missing.
     
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    I've already played a few rides and it was all great fun. Performance was also good. Only the ICE 1 Service Bremen Aachen think 18:03 from Cologne, I was only allowed to drive 200 instead of 250, is that normal? I know the speed reduction from SKW but it wasn't bad weather
     
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    I’m playing on PS4 and it ran smoothly. I don’t know whether it’s intentional, but it looks like they’re using this method to optimise performance:
    - BR642 on AI services around Stolberg will not appear unless you’re starting with that service
    - S-bahn AI services will not appear unless you’re starting with that service.
     
  40. chrissiracer#7214

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    Hallo. Köln Achen läuft auf meiner Ps5 perfekt. Sehr viel Verkehr und gute Leistung. Danke DTG
     
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    DTG can we get any info into whether this sort of thing has been applied?
     
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    Don't know whether I'm missing something but did a full run on new timetable for ps5 and didn't see another train :(
     
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    Vielen dank fur ihre antwort.
    I have the above route plus Frankfurt Fulda plus Dresden Riesa. The route just seems very quiet to me
     
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    Seems the same for FlixTrain. Doesn't appear at the scheduled time unless you are driving it.
     
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    Same for me, I have good performance and lots of traffic.
     
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    It's Steam.
    BR423 is causing problems, and removing the additional pack will fix the timetable mode issue.
    Unloading will not complete the task.
     
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    I drove several trains on the updated Koln - Aachen.
    I liked it very much!

    Great to see not only much more traffic, but also yards with full of trains.

    I am on PS5.
    Everything was great, with no texture issues, or other kind of problems.

    My first run was Aachen to Koln.
    I have a problem when trying to get Koln Hbf.
    I was stopped by red lights.
    Looking the map... there were 4 trains ahead of mines, all with red lights too!
    I waited 15 minutes,... and nothing had changed.
    So my only option was to start deleting they.
    In resume, I have to delete 3 trains, in order to get there!

    So I made another run at a different time, and I arrived without problem.

    The first train I drove was a BR187.
    When I go back to select SIFA, I noticed when I turn the switch, my head also follow the movement! So I ended watching an internal wall.
    DTG might fix that.

    I am thinking about to purchase the BR 423 pack.
    What to you think? It will be worth it?
    Hope it will not complicate the performance on PS5.
    Does any one have it, and try it with the new route upgrade.

    Finally... considering Koln - Aachen route it is an "iconic" one....it deserves, to have weather improvement, with 3D clouds!
    What do you think!
     
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    Quick Question: Why do I need the BR 146 from Main-Spessart for RE1 and can't use the one from FTF?
     
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    Because when ska first came out, msb was the only route that had the 146. Changing it to the ftf 146 would require a lot of work and those who have msb would lose the layers
     
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