Out Now Br 194 / E94 Railtour Pack – Out Now!

Worth a try but pls fix the free roam route path for Frankfurt s-bahn because the route path keep taking me off the route in free roam using Xbox series s.

 

Where is the E94 in the PS5 DLC?

Is it just well hidden, or is it the good old "get half, pay for the whole thing!" thing?

 

In terms of playable content, the E94 only exists on two scenarios on Ludwigsbahn: Mannheim, no timetable services on either route, you have to use free roam for anything else.

 

From the Comming Soon Article

 

Okay, thanks!
I watched videos from our ambassadors yesterday, which offered a completely different insight into the menu selection. But they're also on the PC. ...

 

Could someone explain the differences in the two models included? And how they relate to the 1020 on the Mitternwaldbahn?
They're three different variants?

 

Dont have pictures currently at hand, but they are all different

1020 you know from Mittenwald and is a rebuilt pre war 194 to austrian standarts

the included E94 088 is a former 1020 and you notice big similarities in the cab, although it is not the same. E94 088 is a modern Railtour loco and kinda a mix of 1020 and 194, featuring PZB 90 instead of Indusi, and mode modern or rebuildt elements like GSMR.

The 194 is the original Bundebahn loco with a much older cab design and the three part windows instead of the two you get in the 1020 (and E94 088)

 

Okay, so 194 base is oldest, 1020 is modernized most and the 088 is the railtour model.
Are there any mechanical differences beyond the cosmetic?
Different traction motors or brakes or anything?
Just looking at what to expect with different driving.

 

Off the top of my head
- Rheostatic breaking is weaker
- Air breaks operate differently
- Pantograph system is different
- One Indusi mode

 

Thank you.

 

PS5
I can't get past the Selector forward step in E94 Introduction, it just won't jump to the next step..I've tried it three times and still the same....am I doing something wrong?

 

Waaaait a second. So the bundle on Steam for the E94 does not even contain the DLC itself and costs 125 Euro. Add to that the 25 Euro of the E94 pack and you have yourself 150 Euro just to enjoy a timetable fully. Looking with what I have it still comes up to 100 Euro to complete my collection.

Its a sad day for me, TSG creates amazing content and is worth the price, but this is a huge price to be able to enjoy the full timetable for LFR. Let's see what discounts the Steam Summer sale brings.

Really wanted to get this, but the bundle config makes me pass, yes its exhaustive, but it costs more than two AAA games.

Dont' get me wrong the price for the pack itself is well worth for what it adds in terms of rolling stock, and that it supports the preservation

 

Just curious as all the pre publicity is a bit vague… How many Timetable services does the E94 (and the new coaches) get on LFR, or is it just the Railtour scenarios? How much does it feature in Journey mode for the new timetable? Not having the Ludwig route, kind of concerned about the amount of built in gameplay it has.

Not really wanting to invest in something if the only way to get the most out of it is Free Roam or Scenario Editor as is being indicated.

 

I'd like to know this as well!

Anybody who has bought it could you share number of playable BR194 services on the new LFR timetable?

 

I get what you're saying but i'm guessing many people already own 1 or more of the other DLCs.

The bundle is just a good way to organize them in the Steam store so you can easily buy the ones you're missing.

 

It would be great to have a breakdown of what loco has how many services in the new timetable.

I am intrested in what the 218 adds extra, are there more 628 services, and how many services need Mittelwaldbahn for the 111 and the coaches. From the stream I understood that the n-Wagen services are covered by the LFR stock with replacements only from Mittenwaldbahn.

 

All you're missing is some extra AI stock that's not at all necessary to "enjoy" the pack.
That's "additional value" not "required."
You're essentially blaming TSG for including more value, and basically saying it's THEIR FAULT that you have to buy other peoples' content to use it.
That's... an odd circuitous argument that if followed would mean that companies SHOULDN'T add more layers to their products in the future.
It's a bit like saying "since my car was sold with a CD player, then if I don't have all the CDs I want to play in it, it's the car maker's fault for tempting me with that CD player!"

You can play the pack fine without owning ALL that stuff. It's just there for people that have some of it and want to know what else could layer into it. Feel free to not buy it... just like you don't need to buy all the CDs your CD player "could" play in theory.

Just curious... what would your "solution" be to "fix" that "problem" (that doesn't exist?)
I know the easiest route to avoid complaining would be just to not include any layers then people can't whine they "have to buy more stuff"
Is that really the message we want to send to developers?
To do the bare minimum and don't feature layers to increase value?

 

I am not missing some extra AI, I am missing playable services from the backdated timetable. Yes, I am getting all that the E94 pack promises and what the host route, in this case LFR offers.

I am not blaming TSG for that, the price is totally okay for 2 versions of the loco and 3 different wagons, from which two are completely new. Their work is awesome and I am happy to pay for that if the timetable is also enjoyable enough with just the base route stock.

I am having a problem with the promised "Bundle" which does not include the E94 pack itself, and includes a route that I would never be intrested in for 2 scenarios. The main selling point was the backdated timetable, the "intresting" services shown off on stream, the more busy areas which to noones surprise will need the extra DLC for layers.

So I think it is fair to ask at least for a service count breakdown for what each DLC itself adds to judge if that we consider enough for our investment. If they gave the timetable for LFR for free everyone could decide for themselves on what they need. Even with TSG quality it might not be worth buying the pack it if the amount of services is too low without owning some of the layers and you travel an empty route with the shiny new (old) train with great physics and realism.

It is definitely a purchase for me, but not a day one purchase as it stands

 

As a few people have asked and I own the route...

The E94 has ZERO timetable services anywhere, just 2 scenarios on Ludwigsbahn: Mannheim.

The 194 has 64 timetable services on Linke Rheinstrecke, all freight with a lot of different service lengths. In addition to the existing Linke Rheinstrecke stock you also get 9 services for the 218 and 10 for the 365 for those that own them. There are then 2 scenarios for the 194 on that route. The 194 does not appear anywhere other than Linke Rheinstrecke.

 

Reading the feedback thread and seeing basic issues that shouldn't have made it past testing.

Charging a premium for a glorified gameplay pack and not getting the basics right. So glad I didn't waste £20 on this.

P.S. I am surprised by the lack of QC, TSG are normally quality in that regard.

 

Could you maybe post the layers selection list? I wonder if the IC needs the Mittelwaldbahn stock or works with the LFR one. On stream and in screenshots we have the confirmation the n-Wagen do work, but what about the 111 and 103 services.

From the manual on Steam the IC coaches are linked definitely to Mittenwaldbahn only.

 

Sadly for me looks like this is going to be one for a sale later in the year.

I know it wouldn’t have been strictly prototypical but it would have been nice to see the Krokodil and new coaching stock deployed on some of the local/stopping services. Just using on freight seems a bit limited. Also again, out of curiosity, do the new coaches feature on any passenger services in the timetable?

 

I wasn’t able to find any that feature them.

 

Thanks for that, so looks like just the Railtours then which if you haven't got the Ludwigsbahn means you won't experience them.

Sad to say, seems this pack is a rare fail from TSG in terms of likely player satisfaction. Seems to me the E94/194 and the new coaches should have got their own small branch line route to run up and down on, while as already mentioned a better coaching stock set for 1984 LfR would have been a rake of UIC Am232/Bm232 or similar vehicles.

 

This is the first product l haven’t bought so far for TSW, mainly because l didn’t see much in the steam for me to splash out £20 from my pension, when l am wanting MAC next week.

It seems from some of the reviews so far, l was right, unless someone can convince me otherwise!

 

Gotta say, that's a big disappointment for me too. Especially since the B4yg looks very well done, and will be criminally underused unless someone ends up putting them in a mod timetable.
Back in the 70's and 80's it was not unheard of to see them behind a 194 every now and then (OK, that's the 3-axle variant and a 193 instead of a 194, but it counts):

Image from www.bahnbilder.de

 

That's really disappointing. They look quite nice but why in the world aren't they in timetable mode? I'll never use/see them as it stands.



TSG usually does a great job with

 

Well I will be keeping my £20 back for the JT Class 86 pack, hopefully soon, as we already know that will be integrated into the timetable along with the Mark 2 coffins and the buffet car. With the latest patch addressing many of the performance and sound issues with the 87 that WCMLoS had, the route is basically now the Boss of TSW and my money awaits.

 

PS5

While driving with 194 and two other 194 locos, I encountered an oncoming passenger train consisting of n-cars and at the end were two new green Umbauwagen cars.

 

7506 Wagon shunt, 7506, E2025 wagon shunt, 7529 Wagon Shunt, and 7529 contain Umbaus, although I grant you only 2 of them. Probably needs more utilisation...

 

Nice to have another route for the BR 218.

Mains Hbf looks nicer now, far more traffic now. If you have all the required layers already (was my case), I recommend it.

 

I haven't been able to use my 218 with this pack. Kind of a disappointment. No E94 shows up either. Checked both timetables on Linke Rheinstrecke and the Training Depot. The 218 shows up as normal on the 5 routes it can go on, but not the new ones for the pack and no new livery either. The 194 is a fun change of pace though.

 

Thank you OV, l will take your advice.

 

Guess you need also Mittenwaldbahn, the service I did was a short run as an Eilzug, in which I was pulling the silberling from Mittenwald. Did not check the services for the freight trains, but maybe wagons are also from Mittenwald.

 

In the late 60s- early 70s they were all over the place on local services, only slowly being displaced by the shiny new Silberlinge

 

Why this DLC and the lastest Cargo Line are in english and they aren't translated?

 

What do you mean? English is the default language

 

My Livery Designer cod-Silberlinge don't look too bad beside TSG's "real" ones

 

...they look really well done, even if the PC version probably uses pre-made (mod) decals. It's also nice to see a different lower body color.

 

The game has been translated into several languages. The last two Cargo Line and this BR194/E94 are not; all text, scenearios, descriptions... appear only in English.

 

No decals; everything from the DB Kekse to the smoking signs was done by hand. And all those bloody frame markings

Muff’s logo pack has never included DBB, so I have to reconstruct the cookie every time

 

That's a lot of work. You have way more patience than I do.

 

...all the more respect from my side for the great work! You only realize how many hours of work went into it once you've tried it yourself.

 

DTG:
Can someone please confirm that both DLCs, Mittenwaldbahn AND 218, are necessary to play the 218 services in the 1984 timetable?

 

Yeah, you need both DLC to use the new 218 in the 1984 timetable.

 

I know it’s been said before but there really needs to be a running list/sheet of all the layers in TSW, so we’re not piecing together articles to figure out what routes and rolling stock we need.

If this already exists and is kept up to date it should probably be pinned somewhere where it’s highly visible tbh

Or ideally there’s something in game that tells you what routes layer onto the route you’ve selected… put the routes you don’t own in red text or something

 

Or in my case just own everything that exists for the game,that way you know it's all covered.......

 

https://train-sim-world.fandom.com/wiki/Layers_and_substitutions

That's updated regularly.
Not immediately, but regularly. (After a month after a release or so usually)
It may not cover ALL layer dependencies though.
Still it's what I generally check.