It's great for a project of passion. Much like Athena Simulation's Class 47 project. My point is that it's not offering new capability to sell the pack on. It's arguably only as different from the other Class 20 as the Athena one is from the default 47. That pack was criticized for not offering something substantially different, even though it was as much or more different from the default han your class 20. It is not something that will change actual capabilities or fill a hole (like a 66 replacement) Again, I get concept of low investment to save costs. You don't have to defend why you used a 20 which is accurate to the role. I was only asking how it would sell compared to the other cargo packs given it's different focus. Be nice if it did sell well. I hope it does. It's nice to see people loving their Vol 4 and Vol 3 stuff. The Class 20 tweak just isn't a "significant" enough change to justify it to me. A Class 68 for example would be a day one purchase because it adds more than just the nuclear loads, it'd be filling a hole in the game currently. More routes to layer on would be more likely to sell me. A "foundation" to sell more DLC later (like Fife to use the 158) could add more value too. A Class 20 and nuclear flasks is a sale special... to me. I kinda hope I'm wrong and it does sell well to a whole lot of other people. I do hope it sells well for you.
Don't mind the haters. Looking forward to this pack myself. I would appreciate it however if you guys would give some more insights into what was changed on the loco compared to the existing class 20. The roadmap article doesn't contain any significant details.
LucaZone Adam. You can't please all the people, all the time, is the appropriate phrase here. For me, the Cargo Line series is a great point of difference. And whilst a new diesel locomotive would tick a box for many people, its understandable that sometimes that's just not financially viable for a gameplay pack. I would like to think that you could spruce up the Class 31 for a future Cargo Line release, the model is good but needs work to make it compatible with Livery Creator. In terms of something new, A class 70 freight pack, maybe COLAS would entertain a license.
I've been pretty negative towards TSW and dovetail recently but just wanted to say this is a DLC I'll definitely be buying so thanks from me for developing it.
I look forward to this pack. The cargo line stuff is cool to see as AI traffic and we finally got a new UK freight loco. I hope in future it gets RHTT compatibility.
100% looking forward to this LucaZone. Skyhook really has turned things around since MML, excellent content being produced now, love the Cargo Line Series as Mikey_9835 said
LucaZone while I didn't care that much for the militar pack (we live in uncertain times and it affects me) and while I wish for an update on the BR187, I will definitely giving this new pack a go. While I'm not a fan of nuclear power personally, the infrastructure around it is needed and a part of railways in times of peace and other times and I always found those flasks (in Germany we call them Castor) really interesting. i would also like to see more routes from you guys, if that's something you're still plan to do of course. I understand if that's not a priority at this point and am happy with the content you are producing. Speaking of routes though: people forget that you did another really interesting route before. Granted, it was TSC, but your Corris Railway with all it's quirky rolling stock (gravity train anyone?) showed what skyhook can do. And something along those lines might be a new niche for TSW for you to try and fill. Short museum route with diesels and battery trains (the steamer could be just out of a boiler ticket and could be revived if that'd ever become a thing again), unique gameplay experience, quirky scenarios, maybe some lawnmowers could play a role, idk. I see your efforts and I applaud them. Keep up your good work and keep surprising us!
The unbranded 20 is a weird choice. My best guess is that the DRS license that applied to the 66 has either expired or only applied to that train. A modern Class 20 is appreciated either way, assuming it doesn’t break the things that were so good about the Railfreight one. The nuclear wagons look well modelled, but the textures are not great. It could do with a bit more weathering.
Adam from Skyhook explained in another thread that the DRS licence does indeed only apply to the class 66
I had several Railtours with DRS class 20s. When this pack is released I'm looking forward to recreating them.
Regarding the lack of branding,i know its not ideal but i suspect there will be plenty of liveries available for the loco.Im looking forward to this,along with the GWE remaster,but which route will this be playable on,or will it be available on all routes?
From what I've seen, I think it's available on West Coast mainline South, West Coast mainline North, Midland Mainline.
