Loco Loco Suggestion- Class 180

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  1. jacky39

    jacky39 New Member

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    Hello. Another train suggestion I'm a keen fan of today- and that is the Class 180. An infamous train I know, but still a pillar of our UK rail network. It could easily be layered onto GWRs Remaster, or it could be that it is included into Hull Trains routes when they are added. Liveries could be FGW/GWR and Hull trains. Its manula should just be links to a bunch of the on youtube mike tyreman training vids/YTPs. 34231166400_168632c714_b.jpg
     
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  2. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    Weird you didn't mention grand central given it runs to this day on the ECML.
     
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  3. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestion. I have been requesting the Class 180 for a long time now. Seems to me that there is every reason to add these now even if unbranded. Please give us some DLCs for GWE.
     
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  4. MJCKP

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    Agreed. If it happened I hope the 3901 cupboard is usable
     
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  5. jacky39

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    Don't know enough about them, I've never encountered one so left it out
     
  6. jacky39

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    Hope so too so we can recreate the Class 180 you'll be going nowhere stuff and I hope there is an option to make Paul our driver/the train manager
     
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  7. super#3205

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    Would love to see a 180. Very good looking too in the first dynamic lines livery.
    I could see it on GWE or on ECML since it was only a few years ago Hull trains withdrew them and Grand Central operate them to this day as previously mentioned
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    York to Sunderland anyone?

    Seems like a good opportunity for the 180.
     
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  9. jacky39

    jacky39 New Member

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    I feel that the original FGW livery is best imo (can't remember it's name). Reason I mention Hull trains is because it ties in with a route suggestion I've made of 2016 era Hull to Doncaster
     
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    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Now would be the ideal time to build the Class 180 with the GWE remaster on its way. This would add a little more variety to the express services out of Paddington. This could also include (debranded if necessary) the Grand Central version for extra AI on ECML until such a time we get a suitable section to drive them.
     
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  11. kalkal#6329

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    lol That’s the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread.
     
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    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    This class was a regular performer during the 2015 period as a alternative to the HST on fast and semi fast services. Immensely noticeable in its absence.
     
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    thomas#9589 Active Member

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    On GWE with Guard mode as a addon

    It would be funny to see the rare GWR livery
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  14. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. I remember seeing it at Old Oak Common depot open day in 2017.
     
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  15. TrackingTrains

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    Not much point in adding it to the game tbf - you'll be going nowhere!
     
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  16. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    The faults don't need to be replicated, just a working representation. They were often to be seen on the line during 2015 supplementing the HSTs on fast services and are noticeably absent. We are all aware that they were far from perfect but should still be included for completeness and variety.
     
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    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    Lol, I'm just joking

     
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    oakleymoss#1362 Well-Known Member

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    or even York - Sunderland & Newcastle + the Tyne & Wear Metro branch between Newcastle & Sunderland so you get a loop line
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  19. super#3205

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    I'm all for a bit of York action and you can get some more use from the 801
     
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    With a new license for GWR, as well as the GWE remaster inbound, could it be the perfect time to create a Class 180 dlc to supplement HST services and throw in variety. Matt P did state that he is fond of variety and anything that provides it during last nights roadmap stream. However it is better to walk the walk, rather than talk the talk. If making such statements, it is wise to demonstrate with the content by adding variety with dlc.
     
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  21. mawganh

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    You’ll be going nowhere
     
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  22. OldVern

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    The 180’s did have some reliability issues under GWR and were a bit short on seating accommodation when deployed on longer distance services such as Paddington to Swansea. But they were the mainstay of the North Cotswold Line services for several years and certainly preferable to festering from Oxford to Malvern or Hereford on a 165 or 166.
     
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  23. KTL_Rob Powell

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    Vern, that 'You'll be going nowhere' is now basically a meme in its own right ripped directly from First group's training video for the Class 180 :)
     
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  24. OldVern

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    I wasn’t aware of that Rob hence why I didn’t get the cryptic reference!

    The few times I travelled on them (and got a seat) the experience wasn’t too bad, pleasant engine sound not too intrusive but enough for those of us who appreciate a bit of thrash to know when it was under power. And from my Control TRC experience, yes definitely a pain. When they did sit down generally only another 180 could assist them but if, as likely, a weird electrical or brake fault coupling up would just transmit the fault to the other set too. Quite often you needed to send a fitter to site to try and get the thing fit enough to limp to the next station thence the nearest loop or siding.
     
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  25. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    looks nice so why not
     
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    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Like the Voyagers, they are trains everyone loves to hate but would do quite well in the sim.
     
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  27. slenderman7676RBLX

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    What if DTG could get ahold of him and have him voice the tutorial for the 180? Would make for a great easter egg/in-joke!
     
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  28. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    like many older machines which werent really that great from driving and/or riding standpoint but nostalgia works wonders... like, I prefer this:
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    over this:

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    but sometimes ppl prefer older stuff... well, to each their own :)
     
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  29. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    In any case, this class is obvious in its absence on GWE (and the Grand Central examples to a lesser extent on ECML). It is just one of many missing UK classes that every developer seems to ignore as a potential dlc across multiple UK routes.
    I too have been lucky enough to travel on one a few years ago from York to King's Cross with GC. Totally agree with OldVern, also had no issues.
     

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