Dovetail Games Wmr Class 170 Add-on Q & A

Have the 170 sounds been improved?

 

Are there any plans to layer them, particularly the xc one, on other routes?

 

Will the 323 and 170 have improved suspension?

 

I see we are keeping it professional.

 

Will the running sounds for the Fife Circle 170 be re-added?

 

Will this DLC layer onto other routes (particularly MML, ECML, or Cardiff City Network)?

 

Is the new timetable separate?

 

Are there any hopes / aims / plans to eventually be able to bring auto announce to this, or is the rework of the base route required insurmountable for this project?

 

There is a service early in the morning that runs to Longbridge platform 2, then goes into the reversing siding, and into platform 1. The siding shunt is both ways AI currently. Is this/can this be made playable please?

 

Can you provide more information about the 'platform visualization tool' mentioned in the article? Sounds cool, but I don't know what that means or what the implications are

 

Is the Aston cat a new addition, or is it there already?

 

Can you show how the layers are structured? Curious to see if the 170 ones are split so the timetable is future proofed for any new rolling stock in the game. This was done previously for Cardiff and ECML.

 

Yes I'd like to see this too - specifically (potentially among other splits), are they split such that voyager services which are currently represented by 170s are in their own layer, and therefore if we did get a voyager it could be swapped out with little work/overhaul required

 

Add shout re track running sounds, restored and cleaned up. Otherwise no sale, not even in a sale…

 

Rivet's new video on Youtube about the new Class 170s has indication of improved suspension with the train bouncing on junctions.

 

Are the timings true to life or have they used computer generated timings on the timetable?

 

Are there any plans to introduce more gameplay packs like this in the future? I would personally love to see older routes get timetable improvements like BCC is with the new Class 170 liveries, this would be a really welcome addition to a lot of the older routes going forward too!

 

Has the 170 sounds been tweaked and updated, and if so does the 'updated' 170 have the running sounds reimplemented that were missing? And if so, can we expect the ScotRail 170 to be brought upto the same standard?

Is the timetable (including all AI at Birmingham New Street) a 1:1 replica of the 2019 timetable?

With the original BCC 323 timetable used as a base can we use the 323 in the same timetable mode the same way we could before?

And a slightly unusual question is, as DTG and other developers begin to work together more, hypothetically could DTG possibly use Rivets help to implement the older Adtranz style headlight clusters to the some of the 377/1 models?

 

Was there any thought to extending BCC & releasing it as a new route? This pack obviously adds long distance trains from 2 ToC’s, onto a route where the current TT is fully self-enclosed. As I understand it one of the main issues with ‘extensions’ would be the existing TT & that wouldn’t be an issue here?

I think that this pack is a good idea for ToCs such as XC, but there was probably some good potential here to get ambitious & add in some suitable distance for the 170’s.

 

My question:

Why are you ignoring all the threads and feedback about the broken running sounds on the Fife circle 170 and because of that why should I trust you enough not to do exactly what you have done with that and break the 170 in this a few months after launch (assuming you've even fixed them in the first place) and then completely ignore all feedback about it?

 

Questions:

1. Have the 170 running sounds been improved/fixed?
2. Will auto announcements be added at a later date?

Thanks.

 

Has the issue of glowing benches at Birmingham New Street been fixed with this pack?

 

Lighten up, fella. It'd be a dull place if the CMs couldn't inject a little humour into threads.

 

My question is has the class 170 engine/gearbox audio been improved over the Scotrail 170?

 

Have any improvements to the route been included with this gameplay pack (fixed glowing oobjects).

Also what signals have been changed atr New Street as per the article. Will this affect other timetables (asking for a friend

 

Another one from me. Why should I support Rivet when they can’t go back and fix their still broken older content? Speed limit on the St Ives branch a case in point. Jasper has been pinged directly a couple of times about that but wall of silence, though seems he is quite happy to trot out on a stream when there is fresh snake oil to be sold.

 

Perhaps they’re busy finishing up an upcoming major release.

 

Dude, haven't you heard about TSW 6?

 

The question still stands!

 

Have running sounds been fixed?

Why has every thread mentioning them been ignored?

Is anyone actually going to listen to these concerns?

Does anyone working on this actually know what they sound like?

How long has this been in development?

Why trust Rivet with such a thing when they never fix, or even acknowledge, anything?

Will you again ignore questions about running sounds people have been asking in this thread?

Will the timetable be like all other Rivet timetables?

 

The article answers this one.

 

Yes, this new guy was already at it before he was employed by Rivet. I find that to be encouraging.

 

LOL

 

Question for both Dovetail and rivet, can you please read this in regards to the Fife circle 170 running sounds and your complete lack of response and failure to fix:


https://userpilot.com/blog/poor-customer-experience/

Once you've read that can you understand why we're annoyed about the fact you have broken a fairly major part of a DLC we have paid for, with our money, which worked at launch and not only have you not fixed it, you've completely ignored every thread and every post about it.

 

Haha, seriously?

 

Haha, yes seriously.

Is it acceptable to buy something from a company who then break it, won't fix it and ignore all feedback about it?

 

Track shadows, need to be upgraded. Takes away from a good release

 

Okay, i take back some of the stuff i said above!

The dlc looks pretty good and I'm tempted.... if the Fife 170 also gets updated to have suspension and working running sounds I'll be happy.

The only thing I'm disappointed about is the lack of feedback until now for the Fife 170 and also, why has it taken so long??

I'll stop moaning now

 

Rivet always follow the same pattern unfortunately, go silent for months & then talk about fixes when they’re selling something else.

Fortunately for them in this case, it seems an external modder has done the heavy work on the TT, using the existing one, so not too much room for error here.

 

great looking timetable and Glad Rivet has Tyler on their team