PC Tsw6 - 200 Years Of Trains. Coincidence?

Ok, hear me out. I've got a wild theory, probably from not sleeping enough.

So, the 200th anniversary of trains is officially on 27th September this year. And speculation is that TSW6 is landing at the end of September. Interesting, right?

In the stream somewhere when they announced TSW6 they said there are some big surprises coming up.
Now, I know they have some sponsorship/deals with Thomas ready for his 80th anniversary, and they have done a heritage line before, but.....Could there be another type of sponsorship/heritage coming up that would be perfect for the 200th Anniversary?

Could we possibly see a recreation of the Stockton & Darlington Railway circa 1825 as a route?

It would be super easy, as the rivet counters cant argue over accuracy, or correct boiler physics this time, as it would be pure speculation.

It would be historically significant too and in all honesty, utterly fascinating. It could even end up being a teaching aid and appeal to a wide range of typically non gamers.

So, just my sleep deprived brain, or could we really, really see that?
*all my fingers crossed

 

Yes, your first sentence summed it up perfectly.

 

How does "Ok, hear me out." sum up anything?

 

No not a coincidence, namely because this is the sodding sixth version of the game. Now if it was number one version I'd have thought you might have been on to something.........

 

If it has anything to do with it, the most likely content will be a UK route, which will include a 66 with one of the railway200 liveries.

 

Well, didn't we got a new TSW in September last year too? Oh and TSW3 and TSW4 are also released in September btw.

 

Shhhhhh! Don’t go spoiling the surprise’s.

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As I noted in another thread, it will be TVL extended 2 miles to Stockton and a “special” timetable with Locomotion and carriages similar to the Thomas caper on WSR.

 

Well I've heard that it's actually going to be called TSW66 and the 'package' is going to launch with 200 of the buggers
(Remember you heard it here first ).

 

I wouldn't call it a coincidence since a new tsw launches every year, but I do hope dtg do something in regards to rail 200. What they'd do though, I have no idea.

 

Make the retail price £200?

 

Shhh don't give them ideas

 

They will only get my 2 cents

 

Thing is a lot of the issues complained about ain't "They miscounted rivets", it's more fundamental issues like foliage density, or poorly blended ballest. Most relevant to this conversation is steam simulation, which is in a completely horrid state. It is particularly sad to me that the cut-off/reverser behavior on the Jurassic era Somerset & Dorset engines feels more refined than that of the "latest and greatest" in TSW. That sort of stuff doesn't need a "rivet counter" mindset to spot, and if DTG don't do anything to refine steam's behavior than they will get backlash for it.

 

And I'm sure that TSW6 can only have British/Scottish/Welsh content this time around) (in honor of Rail 200)

 

Surely you mean English rather than British

How about this?
1) England - Isle of Sodor.
2) Scottish - NEW Mc Chuggington.
3) Wales - Valley of Ivor.
4) NI - Gets forgotten as usual.
Sound like a winner to me

 

Speaking about bugs, I just did a few services on Koln - Aachen, the BR101 has a plopping sound at low speed, on the BR425 the PIS is black on AI trains because the correct service is missing in the list of services. On a RE service coming in on Koln HBF, only the the dosto cabcar has working PIS, the other coaches do have black PIS. The same train is leaving Koln HBF, all PIS screens are working. A BR425 is leaving the station without a driver in the cab. The BR423 still has Munchen on the lower end of the train.

Just a few, not game breaking, bugs I noticed while playing the game for 1 hour.
I don't think those bugs are hard to fix, but it looks like they don't like to put any effort in it to fix.

 

I see some people are misunderstanding what a coincidence is. A coincidence is when two unrelated things happen at the same time so it is a coincidence that TSW6 will be releasing at the same time as the Rail 200 anniversary thing happens because it releases at that time every year. Because it is a coincidence it means it isn’t planned to occur at the same time. If it was planned to release at the same time it wouldn’t be what we call a coincidence. I hope that clears that up. It’s a different story as to whether DTG plan to celebrate Rail 200 with some vintage content but that could mean anything from the 200 years of railways and not necessarily something from the very early days.

 

The first sentence doesn’t end at ‘ok, hear me out’….

 

Add 200 new bugs?

 

Surely the most apt option for Railway 200 would be to remaster and extend TVL to Bishop Auckland with Locomotion in a story-based set of scenarios like Thomas' pack.

Brings an old route back to life, more or less covers the original railway and allows it's story to be re-told in-game, and would probably the best tribute imaginable.

Not my favourite pick for the UK route but if being picked on the criteria of R200 then so be it.

 

Well Sept. 27 is a Saturday, so not likely to be the TSW6 launch day.

More importantly, it's National Chocolate Milk Day, at least here in the US and I'll be celebrating that and will have to pass on R200 unfortunately.

That's OK actually because over here we celebrate R200 on May 24, 2030, 200 years after the B&O ran the first steam hauled passenger train. Old as I am, I plan to be around for that.

But will TSW11?

 

And it should also go the short distance round the corner to Stockton, a surprising omission on the original.

 

With TSW steam being problematic, it might be easier to make S&D a passenger run with horses. Would Simugraph work with horses?

 

You did not state that the end of that sentence "summed it up perfectly". You stated that the first sentence "summed it up perfectly". The first sentence is "Ok, hear me out." You may have meant to write that about the second sentence.

 

Oh YES! Certainly gets my vote.

 

And if TSW launches on September 30th then Rail200 divided by 30 is 6.66!
Coincidence I think not!

 

Worryingly Rail200 is also an anagram of Liar200.
Make of that what you will
#spooky

 

What I want to know is what special events are planed for tsw200.

 

You clearly know more than the author! Pedant!

 

People can come up with many conspiracies about what DTG will do around Rail200... But, I think some people may fall into the trap of placing expectations of their own about Rail200 onto DTG and then feel disappointed when said expectations do not happen. Just pace yourselves...

I certainly think we may get some Rail200 inspired content, but don't think you'll be getting Christmas all come at once!

 

If there is to be a commemorative Stockton Darlington route for TSW, who would build Locomotion since DTG isn't making steam locos any more.

Perhaps they could make some horses to pull the rolling stock, which would of course be accurate for passenger trips. I mean they haven't said they're not building horses anymore, have they?

 

Asking ChatGPT what a sentence is:

A sentence is a group of words that:

1. Expresses a complete thought, and
2. Contains a subject and a predicate (at minimum).

Basic Structure:

• Subject: Who or what the sentence is about
• Predicate: What the subject is or does (includes the verb)

Example:
The dog (subject) barked loudly. (predicate)

This is a complete sentence because it:

• Has a subject (“The dog”)
• Has a predicate (“barked loudly”)
• Expresses a complete thought

Notes:

• A sentence begins with a capital letter and ends with a punctuation mark (period, question mark, or exclamation point).
• It can be simple, compound, complex, or compound-complex in structure.

Therefore what Myron had stated is true.

 

There might be hope because DTG are still talking about "mane lines" and them needing many "hands" to build new routes.
They also claim that there are several projects "jockeying" for their attention.
So ignore the neigh-sayers and keep your fingers crossed.

 

Coincidence, TSW6 would have released this year either way.

Before every DTG Direct or big promotion they have they say they have big surprises.

Just remember the big surprise at Xmas.

 

Well given how they did Thomas, any attempt at Locomotion would probably use similar arcade/DCC physics.

 

Don't be so cynical Vern.
Keep it quiet but I managed to sneak out a photo of the pre-production model of Rocket for TSW6 on a recent visit to DTG towers.
Looks pretty accurate to me.

 

GTA 6 was originally planned to be released in the autumn of 2025 - could it have a recreation of the Stockton and Darlington Railway circa 1825?

 

Indeed and this is why for a few months publicly and privately (Emailing many companies of the PR opportunities).
Especially for TSW6 as yes the timing is a perfect coincidence and one that should not be missed.
I see in the last few months DTG have been more vocal as time passes or nears the release of TSW6 and their involvement now with Railway 200. Ie stand at the TGG working and promoting Railway 200.

Why I’ve said would this be a perfect opportunity for DTG to add a completely new core game theme. That being TGG.
20 quid. Then DTG could have the opportunity to all plays to purchase individual locos that would be at the event. 11.99 or 15,00 quid depending on size of model.
This would provide locos at the event so a player can add and build what they like. And use those added class’s for DLC routes already available.
So if a Class 55 was sold it could be use on the ECML.

Then any additional new routes get sold as they normally do or could link existing routes even extend.
Mix it up a little and brake that monotonous feeling of oh it just UK or EU content recycling models.
This time focus on expanding routes not adding more class 66 or models we have. Save that space for routes.
Then sell the locos as the add on pack. 11,99 per week might be more realistic for some than 110 quid for the best pack.
20 quid core game. Railway 200 TGG on TSW6. A few quid for the models. Or pockets money.

For Class 66’s then I have been focused on this class as it’s widely used by many TOCs.
First attempt and then the more recent version.

The concept for these were to help raise money for Railway 200 charities and partners.
Even sold as a separate loco to help raise funds.

So TSW6 has come as the right time and so has Railway 200 along with the TGG. Will the opportunity be missed tho that’s the question.
And for me it’s been one of not just DTG missing a great opportunity but the whole industry coming together for fans and this once in a lifetime opportunity to celebrate what Railway 200 means.

To Inspire

It’s most certainly inspired me.

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Hahahaha.

 

that is EXACTLY it and what I wanted to try and explain in my OP.

 

With you on that one. It is certainly a 'read', aye...

 

Isn't it a big no no emailing the railway companies trying to get them to be in the SIM, I'm sure Matt and co have said in the past it hurts their chances of making progress on getting licenses for content rather than making the train companies more involved......

 

If there is I didn’t get the rule book. All what I spoken about I ran past DTG Matt via private massage first. I wouldn’t go and email without going to the main man himself. All I did is run the ideas past them during this time by reaching out to DTG, Hornby, GBRf to name a few.

My Aim wasn’t to beg for liveries or TOCs to be involved, no no it’s just an idea I felt would be a benefit for the industry as a whole.
Something new and exciting not only for DTG to jump on the opportunity wagon, but for other companies to make something happen for fans. Help raise money and awareness on the charitable side. Combine the game with training and education working with TOCs looking at what opponents working as a driver can have even.
Many possibilities and that’s all I reached out for.

I can’t do things with no power so to speak in the gaming community, yet there are others who have the power to make it happen.
If TSW6 or even DTG in general need to create a new buzz about the franchise then it needs a ruddy good shake up.
Could or does any company see the advantages of working together for the benefit of the rail industry and by having TOC fully on board with DTG could bring more people to both the game and industry.

It’s why one of my ideas was for DTG make a one off game, (TGG on TSW6. Hornby make the models based on the program data used for hard product models to extend players locos add ones they so desperately ask for. DTG routes, Hornby or other 3rd parties just do locos.
Make this title a little different to weather the storms of user gens/ GTA6 sales, once established later on can go back to normal if TSW7 came out.
To try a different business model while the opportunity is there.

By no means did I take it upon myself to completely by pass DTG Matt. He was the first one I approached with the basic ideas.
All I did was run the ideas past these companies, to be left with these ideas and set the gears in motion behind the scenes if they like what was on offer.
That’s all I was able to do with being a small fish in a big bond.

Up to the big boys now. If not then personally it’s sad that no one seen all the opportunities this could possibly bring for all.
DTG, Rail Industry and for rain fans.

Especially with such perfect timing too. A massive opportunity right there. If DTG had their selling caps on they could have brought the game TGG event for its introduction. Even TSW loco gift cards. One you scratch off for the code.
How many copies at 20 quid and little loco gift cards or model cards would have been sold at that stand. Away from that I feel this way younger gens can save up money to buy from the shops like kids did with modelling in the past.

Not every 10 year old walks around with a credit card, yet a few quid go save up and buy a little model card, that’s possible.
Cards they could be like Top Trumps cards. Both cards come in a little packets at the sales counter.
I could go on but they’re only ideas. It takes the will of others to turn any ideas into reality.

I guess time will tell, but at this stage I’ve not heard a word from the bird, why should I. I don’t want to give the impression that anything I’ve said has come from any inside gossip to feed the speculation hype that always come from a new game announcement.
All I do is think of how to make something better.

For all

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Hey I think the thread topic is very interesting and thank you for setting it up.

All I can say is I don’t chat much about the if and buts I look for patterns instead, or opportunity.
I love thinking, creating, seeing something that ain’t there yet.
That’s all I’ve done here and with TSW. Thought a lot

I love TSW and driving so want DTG to do well, grow even. To provide a top class experience for beginners and existing fans.
Because just think if DTG and TSW went tomorrow what would users do. In some cases forget just how lucky we are.

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say there, but if you're suggesting Hornby (ew) make models based on trains in TSW, you really don't know how model trains are made. You're assuming it would take one or two months to make a model - you're about 18 months off.

 

Cant see them doing any 200yr old railways.

There's too many people here who were about when they were and could call out any lack of accuracy.

We've got a few who were around before steam engines that still post here