Enough Is Enough!!!

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  1. Class156

    Class156 Well-Known Member

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    sadly not a chance they’ll do that, TSW6 (or the next iteration) will be out this summer I’m sure
     
  2. Gianluca

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  3. nwp1

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    lf they do it will have even more bugs than TSW5!!! They have to get one edition right before issuing the next.
     
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  4. Double Yellow

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    Yeah, on paper it’s more for the graphics boost and faster loading. The extra RAM in the Pro is very minimal, but I’d still like to see what DTG could do with those extra assets. Most PC players are using 16GB of RAM and able to get the full timetables on S-Babn, the Pro gives an extra 2GB of RAM to developers.
     
  5. lexie

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    On PC you have RAM and VRAM, so it will be more then 16GB in total. On console there is no seperate VRAM and higher res/textures is already consuming more memory.

    In one of the last streams, Matt mentioned the amount of PS5 Pro players is low, so I don't see them invest a lot of time into a PS5 pro version.
     
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  6. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    In all due respect I don’t know how Matt would have assess to this information.
    I can imagine a dev under the Sony studios brand would when users are playing the Pro enhanced version of their game.
    It just seems a bit “word of mouth” like he’s got those figures from the engagement of users here on the forum, I don’t know how’d he’d know Pro users being low otherwise.
    Not to say it isn’t true though, I doubt a lot of people would have upgraded to the Pro yet or will. It took me 7 months to finally cave in, but I’m more using my Pro for other games.
     
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  7. lexie

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    Somehow they can see how many players of TSW are on PS5 Pro.
     
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  9. RattenReich

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    Blimey that almost looks real.
     
  10. Calidore266

    Calidore266 Well-Known Member

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    Telemetry from the game itself?
     
  11. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    I just don’t buy it. PS5 and the PS5 Pro are pretty much the same device just with the Pro specs enhanced. Does Sony pass on this data to dovetail when people engage on the Pro console? I very much doubt it.
    Are Dovetails engagement tracking servers advanced enough to know if a user is on a Pro console? The PS5 and base and Pro are apart of the same ego-system, so I just don’t know how they can differentiate from the two DTG Matt I would really like to know how you collect data on the PS5 Pro console?
     
  12. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    There is a thing called a survey where the 1st question is what systems are you playing TSW on?

    I suspect that may be where he gets his info from.
     
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  13. Double Yellow

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    100% agree with that, it’s just the data has changed now as the last survey DTG did was last year.

    Anyways as I’d like to see an Enhanced version of TSW, DTG are now too busy making their 3 pack route bundle for the TSW6, and recording interviews telling us why TSW6 will be the next best thing since sliced bread.
     
  14. lexie

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    Maybe the info about the console is send when logging in to your DTG account or there is another telemetry active.
     
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  15. Doomotron

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    They could have the full and reduced timetables available on both systems, but give a warning to base PS5 players that there may be performance issues. Of course, it wouldn't perform differently anyway for the issues I listed earlier.
     
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  16. Mich

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    Telemetry is used everywhere, one of the cases that surprised me was learning that Yuzu, a Nintendo Switch emulator, actually would track what games you're playing and report back to the emu developers. Actually played a part in its downfall because Nintendo used that data to prove people were pirating Tears of the Kingdom before it actually released. The idea that some bit of telemetry would report specifically note if it's a PS5 or PS5 Pro hardly seems weird to me. There's a million reasons you'd want that data, determining if there's enough demand for PS5 Pro enhancements actually being a very valid one.
    Oh, I don't doubt for a second that if it ran whatsoever DTG would've published it. Even if said timetable was running at single digit FPS and it took a literal millennium to load. 100% the console manufacturers don't care if it runs well, just that it runs, period. That full timetable must've been more extremely prone to crash on consoles if DTG felt the need to pull it back.
     
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  17. cornetrunner

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    There are numerous ways to differentiate between a PS5 and a PS5 Pro, including by using the console model number or hardware capabilities, which are likely to be collected in analytics by DTG as a matter of course.
     
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  18. Calidore266

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    What's so difficult about it? Just like every website you access knows what browser you're using. It's as fundamental a piece of info as you can get.
     
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  19. Wivenswold

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    Ahead of the announcement of more routes this summer, time to take stock of what BR regions are lagging behind.
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  20. DTG Matt

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    Yes, the API tells us if you're on a Pro console or a regular PS5.

    Matt.
     
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  21. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    Out of interest, does it differentiate between the pre-facelift PS5 and the PS5 Slim?
     
  22. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Not that im aware of no as they are functionally identical.
     
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  23. Doomotron

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    I assume it would be the same for the PS4 and PS4 Slim then.
     
  24. bartolomaeusz

    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly why this thread has existed since TSW3!
     
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  25. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    It could easily have been started earlier. TSW2 was catastrophic when it launched.
     
  26. bartolomaeusz

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  27. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick post to help get you to 1000 pages
     
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  28. 85hertz

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    Think you'll need a decade or two at least.

    Unless we can get everyone to vent their frustrations with TSW6, 7, 8 in a frenzy like they did with the announcement of TSW3 XD
     
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  29. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    Maybe TSW6 will be really, really bad. That'll get it to at least 190.
     
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  30. Folup1372#8582

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    Chai, this thread is still going on....
    Guys, let's hope TSW6 Will fix all of DTG's Flaws...
     
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  31. pugilist3

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    Lol, yeah right! I'm guessing it will be nothing more than a few new routes and locomotives. The same old bugs, crashing, unreal looking headlight flares, and no usable router editor will still be in TSW 6 for sure.
     
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  32. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    And other jokes you can tell yourself...
     
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  33. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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  34. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    You never know, this year might be different...
     
  35. Gilly

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    Just after the devil ice skates past perhaps?
     
  36. RattenReich

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    You can never have enough of enough is enough.
     
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  37. chrism#4685

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    That's enough of the enough of the enough is enough.
     
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  38. cornetrunner

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    I can't go on, I can't go on no more, no!
     
  39. Redbus

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    Yep, double negatives will do that to you. ;)
     
  40. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Lol
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  41. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    This thread makes no sense anymore…

    I’m a beautiful butterfly!
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  42. krustynuggets

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    Oh dear, your clearly to sensible and very untapped for you to be saying that, this thread makes perfect sense and is completely normal for us slightly and maybe massively tapped residents here.......
     
  43. Kezz

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    This wouldn't work unfortunately. From a dev point of view for you, it has to pass a process called cert for consoles and if you say have crashes which are being caused by a really intense timetable in terms of memory then you won't pass cert and therefore would need to fix the problem to get it through. That is how I understand it anyways
     
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  44. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    *You’re
     
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  45. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    With the second anniversary approaching, long live enough is enough. Enough is not enough.
     
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