Liberec-stara Paka Discussion

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  1. wlabee

    wlabee New Member

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    Finally, arguably one of the greatest countries for railways is coming to TSW!!!

    The route is 80km, and features the ČD 750 and 853 diesels. I imagine the route will be set in the past, as today Arriva serves the line since 2019.

    Photos of the route:
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  2. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Day One for me with that traction. Hopefully the diesels are modelled before the rebuild with more efficient silencing. From audio I’ve heard of the prototype on YT, they sound very similar to the UK Sulzer Type 2’s.
     
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  3. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    I'm excited for this- i always buy at least the first route in a new country.

    Would any existing TSW rolling stock layer into this route?
     
  4. Richard CZE

    Richard CZE Well-Known Member

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    So this is the first time I won't have to learn new railway signals.
     
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  5. LodeStar

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    Possibly Br642 if it is pre Arriva era. It is a diesel line.

    České dráhy 750 with it goggles like windows, a typical - and built in - Czech Republic engine: Lokomotiva_ČD_Class_750_(Jihlava).jpg

    ..and České dráhy 843: 843.jpg
     
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  6. wlabee

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    If set before 2014, BR 612s can provide AI to Dresden from Liberec.

    Unbranded Arriva 628s could additionally provide traffic at Liberec.
     
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  7. TimTri

    TimTri Well-Known Member

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    Pretty cool. But I’m staying very realistic. New developer, new country, highly ambitious route and rolling stock selection. So if it ever gets released, we might end up seeing it during the TSW7 or 8 era at the earliest.
     
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  8. Cael

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    Older video between Liberec and Stará Paka.

     
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  9. neonym#9140

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    I cant wait. I will buy this asap.
     
  10. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

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    I love the looks on those older trains. And always nice to have a new country. I'm looking forward to this one. :)
     
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  11. Agent Qracle RUS

    Agent Qracle RUS Well-Known Member

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    I am sure that the route should be good, because this is the Czech Republic, baby)
     
  12. OldVern

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    This to me is actually the second highlight of Direct (South Devon being No.1). I just hope DTG have learned from the eternal wait for Tadami and the abandonware of the Class 104, not to make any announcement until the project is at least within sight of the finish line.
     
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  13. blizbeast pl

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    Incredibly excited for Czech Republic to be featured. Closer and closer to home! The rolling stock is super cool, new countries always welcome. I wish the devs all the best!
     
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  14. Purno

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    Well, if they're sure the project is coming, I don't mind the wait too much. Lets nog forget we're still waiting for the BR420 and BR232 as well.

    Shame about the Class 104 indeed. Could've been a nice add-on for Peak Forest. I picked up Peak Forest recently (I've waited since Spirit of Steam was quite a dissapointment, quite a boring route IMO), and the route amazed me. Lovely scenery. I did a few Free Roams with the Class 33, but a Class 104 with a timetable would be a welcome addition.
     
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  15. Tomas9970

    Tomas9970 Well-Known Member

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    Well there are two options for what we might be getting. First is the regular ČD 750, which was made from the original 753 in 1991. It's still being used by ČD Cargo and I believe it still has the original 144 liter V12 engine but I'm not sure about that one.
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    Second option is the ČD 750.7, which was a rebuild of the 750 made in 2010. It got a new engine and also a digital driver's cab. It's used by ČD for running passenger trains.
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    The modern version for freight traffic would be ČD 753.7 (made from the original 753) but I think we would know about that one as it's a different class number.
     
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  16. AmityBlight

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    I agree, route and rolling stock look very promising. Finally another small-ish diesel route! One of the highlights of the Dovetail Direct for me as well.
    Let's just hope it won't turn into a Tadami 2.0... with the route's length and the new rolling stock, it's quite an ambitious project. Not to mention it being the first ever Czech route ingame. Sure it's great to announce all those many new things at once, but I'd rather prefer if they kept the lid on new routes and vehicles until it's at least close to getting into the 0-3 months category.

    Anyway, getting to learn Czech signalling will be fun :)
     
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  17. mkraehe#6051

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    They're extremely similar to Hl signals, just with even more aspects for more different speeds. You can decide if that's good or bad - personally I'm really looking forward to it as Hl is my favourite German signal system.
     
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  18. tootyhoot

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    A definite purchase for me but it is a problem with one off nation routes that layering will be absent until more routes are done. I guess we have to hope that the devs concerned do more work in their own countries.
     
  19. yansel#5383

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    A lot of German stuff can layer onto Czech routes, there are basically like two Škoda electric trains missing and you can do almost any route here justice. 628, desiro, all the traxx trains, and of course the omnipresent Vectron can all layer in unbranded liveries.
    Also I think the route choice is a decent one as the two trains which come with it cover pretty much all but shunting services if I am not mistaken. Would have been worried if it was a corridor route with a single train included.
     
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    There are not many other trains needed. It would be good to have ČD 742, maybe it will be a oportunity to make it DLC.
     
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  21. Caravatt

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    Those legendary diesel locos... They can also be reused in other European countries! Personally, love them, especially updated ones! Here in Italy we imported 40 specimens in early 00', most of which still in operation today (we identify them as D.752/753/DE 520!). Beasts!
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    Here's how it looks in my country!
     
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  22. Cael

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    From what I recall, stopping and fast services were done by the 843s, some stopping services used the 814 or 810s instead.
    Shunting is usually done by something like 742, so it's a possibility for a DLC.
    German rolling stock could be layered mainly into Liberec station for direct trains to Dresden.

    Although most of it is 80-90 kmh, the route is very scenic and twisty.
    Unfortunately, the one time I took a train to Liberec, there was a replacement bus service from Železný Brod onwards.
     
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  23. smartnoob#1348

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    I think they could've added the 810 or any kind of regioumouses as from trainspotting videos at stara paka that I saw there were a lot of them, so I think it also can be a possibility of a DLC.
     
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    An 810 would be awesome!
     
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    The core features and new countries coming to the game are the two reasons, that I´ll be giving TSW another chance. Really happy to see them break out of the UK/US/Germany formular.
     
  26. OldVern

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    Just looking at the course of this route on Open Street Map makes me wonder how far away this will be in practice, particularly if the team working on it have only been coordinating for four months. However tracing through those curves and hill sections is making me drool over my keyboard so really hope it becomes a reality.
     
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  27. Richard CZE

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    This morning in Nymburk. A pair of modernized class 753 locomotives.
     
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  28. ondrys

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    Day one purchase for me! I never expected to have a czech route in TSW. I had a dream about the route from Liberec to Harrachov with Stadler Regio-Shuttle RS1 class 840. But Liberec to Stará Paka is much better but very ambicious. The route is long, very curvy and with a lot of gradients. So I hope this project will really happen, because the developpers choose the hard way with the classes 843 and 750. An easyest way would be to use the already modelled classes 628 and 642 in Arriva livery in service since 2019.
    Because using the class 843, the developpers choose the time period between 2006 and 2019. Fast services Liberec - Stará Paka - Pardubice were assured by class 843 + 2x coaches 043 (Btn753). For rush hours it was 843+043+043+043+843. The stopping services Liberec - Stará Paka were assured by a class 843 + cab car 943 (Bftn791). Classes 854+054 or 814 Regionova were also used for stopping services.

    Freight between Turnov and Liberec was assured mainly with a pair of modernized class 753 with CAT engines from ČD Cargo or private operators. A banking locomotive was used for most of the heavy freight trains towards Liberec, usualy a class 742, sometimes 2x class 753.
    So I´m really looking forward to this route and wish it will be released soon.
     
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  29. martschuffing

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    If Bender was a loco that's what he'd look like!
     
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  30. FilFee

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    Looks very promising but I'm not expecting it to come out during TSW6 as Vector Simulations was only incorporated in April according to public records.
     
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    Im thrilled with new screenshots from this route - they have the models already and they looking pretty much done already! Both ČD class 843 and 750 with two era-accurate paintjobs, cabs looking awesome and 750 has engine room modeled. You already have my money for this route, I was sceptical becouse of years to wait for this one, but now after todays roadmap im really looking forward. Wishing good luck to devs and would like to know more about this developer studio.

    Source: https://live.dovetailgames.com/live...train-sim-world-6-partner-roadmap-august-2025

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    Actually I just realized something amazing! Liberec will be the first railway station in TSW that I have been to myself in real life! It was a year ago, and I travelled from Szklarska Poręba in Poland on a Class 840 such as this:
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    But no CD (České Dráhy) License? Or will it be added at a later point?
     
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    I´m really astonished, the first pictures looks so good! So many details, the environment , the buidings... Congrats to the development team, this is a great job! Can´t wait to play it!
     
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    I love trains with steering wheels and I like this train with three quarters of a steering wheel even more
     
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    I thought so too, but I hope there isn't a logo because it's a work in progress
     
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    I’d be surprised if branding isn’t given since ČD is government owned.
     
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    It’s very likely that work had begun well before the company was inaugurated, I’m guessing being a registered company is a requirement for being a member of the third party program.
     
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    After seeing those screenshots i just cant wait for this. Its easily the one Route im looki forward the most... And im saying this as a german getting his complete home route with Leipzig-Dresden.

    Czech Republic is a stunning place with beautiful nature and its absolutely cozy there. I think they have captured that on point. Its a country full of railways and interesting rolling stock, so obviously hoping Czechia gets it Foot in the door permanently. But after seeing their first glance of what's coming, i have no doubt.

    And what's this? .... a fully moddeled Engine room, according to some developers its impossible, yet here we are.
     
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  40. FilFee

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    Yeah, I wrote this before they released the screenshots. The route looks fantastic.
     
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    My curiosity: does the original 750's tachograph have any "ticking" sound? Usually in old locos cab you could hear the "tick tick" as it moved. Furthermore, these "goggled" locos have big horns, which sound like a ship!
     
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    Added to my “Watch Later” list on YouTube. Thank you very much as I’m curious about this route. :).
     
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    To me that looks like a Tram. I like it :)
     
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  44. Agent Qracle RUS

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    There is a rumor that this route is made by Czech guys who have made a lot of good Czech routes for TS (Kamat, Dominic, K-Trains, Damo).

    This gives hope that the route should turn out to be very good
     
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