Leipzig - Dresden: What Would You Like To See Improved Compared With Original Riesa - Dresden Route?

So, with the Riesa-Dresen route being extended and eventually becoming Leipzig-Dresden, what are some of the things you'd want to see improved upon?

For me, personally, here are some examples:

- Having a busier, more realistic timetable - so that Dresden Hbf feels much busier - with extra traffic ranging from DMU traffic with the DB BR 642, FlixTrain and international services such as Ceske Drahy (CD) from Prague etc (represented by Railpool Vectrons in TSW etc) plus NightJet services etc.
- With the DB BR 411 ICE-T featuring a green stripe with Leipzig-Dresden, I very much hope the original version (with the normal red stripe) will also substitute because it won't feel very realistic just having one version, plus added variety too!
- Hopefully console (Gen 9 at least) will feature most or all the layers (unlike Frankfurt S-Bahn). That's what makes the original Riesa-Dresden so good is the variety, so hopefully the newer iteration is a positive.
- Okay, so this last point isn't anything to do with Riesa-Dresden, but actually Rapid Transit, but include the Leipzig City Tunnel (plus would love to see this older route get remastered too).

If you have any thing to add, then please include. I've added this thread to the general discussion rather than suggestions because it feels more natural here. Thanks!

 

I hope they fix the pathing in free roam which never seems to work on this route for whatever reason.

 

Longshot but i'd like to see something like the Meißen extension be done for Dresden Airport at some point.

To miss it out at the second opportunity feels quite poor and it would just simply give a bit more on the shorter end for services, especially given now there won't be as many services which only run Dresden - Riesa.

 

Yes, that's a very good point - I completely forgot about that. But yes, extending just the short distance to the airport would have been great and, as you say, would add so much more value to those shorter S-Bahn services.

 

- The City Tunnel would be a great addition but you would need the 4km part between Engelsdorf and Leipzig MDR aswell, since the trains from Wurzen don't enter the Tunnel from the north but from the south. So you would need to add 10km of route and another 7 stations including the Tunnel itself. Would be really great and needed for the SBahn Services but I doubt that they do it, DTG does not like Tunnels as it seems.

- Another thing that would be really great, finally add the Dresden Airport Branch, the tracks are already in place, probably more feasible than the City Tunnel. I would like the Tunnel a bit more but still.

- Remaster the 1442 from Rapid Transit, this Train is much needed for the SBahn Services in Leipzig and the old train is not that nice to drive.

- Give us an IC2 as Loco DLC, I really expected this Train for the Deluxe Edition. The 294 is much needed and not a bad loco but it is a strange choice to include as the Deluxe Loco.

 

As above, seems a missed opportunity to put in the branches which were originally planned out & for the Dresden end, would have been great to go to the airport.

The timetable getting fleshed out though is definitely something that needs to happen, but overall the only thing I ever wanted for this route was longer running, particularly the IC runs.

 

Here are a few Ideas/Wishes I have:

-The Branch to the Airport,
- a fix for the missing Overhead Lines,
- Services using the bypass in DD Neustadt,
- Scenario Planner Portals
- a Scenario Planner Path from Coswig-Neustadt-Friedrichstadt-Cossebaude-Coswig.

 

Very much agree! For the IC2 I'd personally love to see the Stadler Kiss come to TSW:

Photo taken by myself


I also agree regarding the 294. It's very nice, don't get me wrong, but it's not the type that really excited me. Shunting can be good, but there's so much long-term gameplay elsewhere.

 

This doesn't run from Dresden to Leipzig. They go towards Berlin.

 

Well I stopped playing the original one when it became plagued with blurred texture issues in Gen 9 consoles so I am not interested in the new one unless that is addressed. Performance and blurring seems to be a major issue with all newer busy German routes.

 

As mentioned above, add in Dresden airport.

 

YES PLEASE

They are quite fantastic trains. Great contrast to the other "IC" 2

 

Hello To All,

Would like IC2 push/pull 147.5
Ceske Drahy BR 193 trainsets

 

I am really exited for it, but I am wondering how they are gonna do this. Will it be an extension like meisen, or will it be a other route.
anyway peformance issues are the main problem now, so maybe I can't even run it but they said they will do things to the peformance so hopefully thats gonna be a great fix.

 

Based on what’s been said it is a complete route, not a separate entity from Riesa to Leipzig. Otherwise you wouldn’t be getting the big freight yard at Dresden.

 

The BR 145 EL with T3000e freight wagons will liven up traffic there a little...

 

If they don't fix the numerous gaps in the overhead wires, I'm going to laugh until I choke.

 

Although it's the loco-hauled IC2 than run the full length of this route, the KISS units appear, but head north at Grossenhain.

 

Even before all of the mentioned wishes above, I personally would add the section D-Hbf - D-Reick, as it's just 2 Sbahn stations, but includes the yard where long distance vehicles are stored after completing services at Hbf. Would allow to properly finish IC/ICE services and especially with the Expert 101 later on allow preparation duty.

 

The lower section of Dresden station also definitely needs some work.
It's scandalously poor.

 

Still exited, but.. Can I even play it? Will LEipzig hbf even worse than Frankfurt? they said they will fix the peformane, but.. yeah

 

Yeah this is a huge concern of mine. Leipzig & Dresden are a couple of the few places I’ve visited in Germany IRL, so DRA has always been a favourite of mine moreso than other German routes & that’s before the fact that it’s generally a great DLC anyway.

To this day I can’t really play FTF on a PS5 Pro, as the memory leaks are intolerable, if this route is going to be the same then it’s entirely pointless as a product to me.

The Riviera line is stated as having a full TT for Gen8 so I’m confident enough in that (performance wise) on Gen9, but frankly I think it’s pretty ridiculous that DTG aren’t really taking this issue seriously. Matt’s comments regarding the last update to address the issue were “we’ve had good feedback” in direct response to the texture issue point - frankly that was a ridiculous statement from him as I can’t see anyone having reported the routes with texture issues have improved.

I’d be making a much bigger song & dance about the issue if I thought DTG actually cared enough to put significant resources into dealing with the problem, but I suspect this issue will be left to rot along with others.

They did say they’d saved significant memory around Dresden though, I know that was an issue for Xbox in particular, but it’s the Leipzig end I’m concerned with.

 

Leipzig is bigger than Frankfurt, but not as busy. Fewer trains, shorter trains, a few closed platforms, and a much smaller station throat. You're not entering on a 10+ track railway from a few kilometers away like you are in Frankfurt. It ought to be fine.

 

i just hope it doesnt crash as bad as dresden as ive been on this routle in real life

 

Even if the City Tunnel isn't happening, I really hope the silver Talent 2s at least get updated features wise, especially in terms of sound and physics.
Also the weird bug where the doors sometimes become unresponsive for some reason.
If I'm going to be honest though, the line via Stötteritz and the City Tunnel is a huge miss, and I really hope it can still be added, similar to the additional station at Frankfurt airport

Beyond that, maybe the mastery tile could involve the displayed preserved trains at Leipzig Hbf, we do already have an E94, but a few more could be added as more basic models

 

To add on the stuff said above, i hope they fixed the lighting bug at Dresden-Neustadt with the station light being permanently on.
Looking at the images and clips from the new route, it seems they have updated the track and the ballast collor. Hopefully this is not the only change to the existing part.

For the sake of an IC 2 appearance in TSW 6 times, i also add my vote for it on the list. Hopefully we get this one announced in the next festival of reveals or whatever they will call it, similar to the Metrolink F59PHR last year.
"Cmon DTG, now you get the chance to make many players happy, finally break the curse of the low entry dostos, mostly recycle the 146.2 as a 146.5 because ETCS doesnt work anyways, give us a much requested train AND make money from it."

 

I wonder if the OHLE gaps on Dresden have finally been fixed.
ALSO wondering if the 146 still has that horrendous placeholder in place of a GSM-R screen and whether the sounds and physics have been updated to a similar standard to the 185

 

I certainly hope that they retain the functionality of neutral sections ... and also that the probable new versions of 146.2 and others WILL work correctly under LZB and during the transition from LZB to PZB

thankfully they managed to fix that annoying LZB/AFB brake bug on 411 that would lock throttle if AFB needed to do braking under LZB

 

Little of topic but im hoping once this new route releases i can uninstall the old and new one will layer freight into other routes like the original one did.

 

Is then our old dresden Riesa useless if the new one has all the tracks of the current content?

 

no, you still need it for some of the included stock, that is not included with Dresden-Leipzig.

 

Turn off motion blur, it will be better

 

You need Dresden Riesa for the following Locos The DB BR 143, DB BR 363 and the MRCE BR 185.5 the latter was most likely replaced by the Standard red BR185 as MRCE no longer exists and DTG probably does not have a license from Beacon Rail.

 

This issue should be explored and clarified by DTG.
Why would a user simultaneously install an extended route and a half-length one, to obtain layers for three locomotives that (in addition to the obsolete MRCE) are already present on many routes? I hope that at least the BR 143 has layers derived from other routes.
Is it possible that DTG always has to screw everything up in the most convoluted way possible?
This is pure madness.

 

I dont use any of them locos so my question would be is if I uninstall the route will I loose and rolling stock/jobs on other routes. Edit and the answer is yes I uninstall it and lost over 30 freight jobs on bremen oldenburg and a handful on other routes.

 

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At this point DTG should be putting older & essentially mandatory locos into the core of the game. Especially if it gets to the point where they’re making them free & requiring users to install duplicates of routes.

 

I assume nothing new. The BR 143 and MRCE 185.5 will probably only be substitutes for the BR 146 (S1 and RE50) and Red BR 185 (freight) and the BR 363 probably only has the same tasks as on Dresden-Riesa with the chemical plant near Riesa


Edit: That's why I would be in favor of not using the Locos from Dresden-Riesa for substitutes but the Dresden-Chemnitz DLC so that you don't have to have the same route installed twice

 

Correct me if wrong I thought you need this route for the tanker jobs ??

 

As I said, I assume. In the Route Trailer, all Locomotives are visible, so we don't know which Freightwagons will be coming with the Dresden-Leipzig Route alone.

 

Yeah, can DTG clarify this situation please?

 

Yea seems pointless to me to keep original dresden i know they are different routes one is longer and newer. But im getting tight on space now on me xbox.

 

For me important is the full variety of loco substitution. Means all locos which potentially were running there on that year, should substitute.

Substitution was there when the route released with rushhour, but for some reason completly broken when they reworked the route for tsw4. I remember 95% of the consists had a 185.5. For me only the locos which were coming with the route were substituting, no locos of addons.

Also railtours should get attention.

 

Is there an acronym for this route? BLD?

 

BR 442 5 car variant

 

hopefully the new version will have:
1) correct scoring
2) better rolling physics when going downhill

 

I still hope on a sound upgrade for the BR 146.2, BR 185, BR 143 like they did with the new Taurus and the Talent 2

 

I know, it won't happen, but an updated silver Talent 2 would be great. (could be done by copying the included red Talent 2, and make some modifications like livery, one more door, and some interior changes). The silver Talent 2 has aged very poorly.

 

The Meissen branch needs it station stops sorting, and signalling fixed so you don’t always get checked down approaching the junction on the main was my biggest priority however from reading above I’m meant to keep the original installed as well?

WTAF where is the logic on having keep 2 versions of the same route installed on my system? Why couldn’t the required trains be included in both versions of the route? Sorry but unless this new version is absolutely 100% perfect that’s a line in the sand I’m not crossing and I won’t be purchasing.

 

The main reason is not the rolling stock but the layer dependencies this route is needed for various services across other addons.
And no this is not a simple change you can make within 1 minute per route, this would require the devs to rework most timetables entirely.
Even if there is only one wagon from DRA in the entire consist, it would still be enough for the entire train to not be available
I can imagine them using the new extended route for future layers, but you will still need the old one for all existing content.