Route Birmingham - Bristol (via Worcester Foregate St)

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  1. azzax333

    azzax333 Well-Known Member

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    Hi DTG team and community,

    I’d love to propose a modern‑day Birmingham to Bristol route for Train Sim World that blends high‑speed intercity runs, busy commuter hops and regional stopping services all while making smart use of existing assets which would create a very busy route.

    This would reuse the southern section of the Birmingham Cross City Line (Birmingham New Street → Bromsgrove plus the Redditch Branch) and extend it south to Bristol Temple Meads via the Worcester Loop creating a route that’s substantial yet achievable for the dev team.


    Route Overview:
    Core Path:
    Birmingham New Street → Bromsgrove → Worcestershire Parkway → Ashchurch → Cheltenham Spa → Gloucester → Cam & Dursley → Yate → Bristol Parkway → Filton Abbey Wood → Stapleton Road → Lawrence Hill → Bristol Temple Meads


    Branches/Loops
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    Redditch Branch: Barnt Green → Alvechurch → Redditch
    Worcester Loop: Worcestershire Parkway → Droitwich Spa → Worcester Shrub Hill → Worcester Foregate Street → rejoins at Gloucester


    Proposed Rolling Stock & Layers
    Playable
    Class 221 Super Voyager – Birmingham ↔ Bristol via Worcestershire Parkway
    Class 166 / 150 GWR – Local Bristol‑area services & Bristol ↔ Worcester Stopping Service
    Class 170 – Worcester / Hereford ↔ Birmingham New Street (DLC Required)
    Class 323 / 730 – Cross City services at Birmingham New Street
    Class 802 GWR – AI intercity services to Gloucester ↔ Worcester
    Class 153 / 150 TfW – Short hops (Gloucester ↔ Cheltenham Spa)


    Layering


      • Class 350 / 390 – WCML AI services at Birmingham New Street
      • Freight layers (Class 66 etc.)
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    Why Worcester Matters
    Major GWR / West Midlands Railway interchange.
    Adds realistic regional flows — Worcester ↔ Bristol, Worcester ↔ Birmingham.
    This route would also showcase the modern
    Worcestershire Parkway and boosts gameplay variety with shunts and shorter locals with Worcestershire Shrub Hill providing that in & out gameplay.
    Strong community demand for more
    regional UK hubs

    Sales & Cross‑Promotion
    This DLC includes the Cross City Line South section as part of the route.
    Players wanting the full Cross City experience (up to Lichfield Trent Valley) would need to purchase Birmingham Cross City Line: North separately.
    Having The Class 730 would encourage players to play a new enhanced cross-city timetable (Lichfield - Redditch/Bromsgrove)
    This can act as a gateway route, encouraging new buyers to add the northern section - unlocking through services and more layers at Birmingham New Street.

    Under construction Camp Hill Line BRANCH
    For the new line using pineapple road this is only if DTG want to go the extra mile. I don't expect this to be added but it would be a nice addition to the game. I don't expect this at all.

    Think of this as a clever upgrade not a massive overhaul reusing Cross City South, adding the Worcester Loop, and stretching down to Bristol for a route that feels big without starting from scratch. With the CrossCountry licence already in the game, the new Class 170 pack ready to go and layers that make Birmingham New Street buzz, you can dive into everything from 125 mph intercity blasts to stop‑start commuter runs, regional hops through Worcester, and branch‑line trips to Redditch. It’s a smart way to deliver loads of fresh gameplay.

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  2. CKJ

    CKJ New Member

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    Great idea but some of your information is out. The Worcester loop leaves the main route south of Bromsgrove, not at Barnet Green.
    The correct order for the Stations on the Worcester loop from North to South is Bromsgrove, Droitwich Spa, Worcester Shrub Hill, then rejoin the main route just south of Worcester parkway making the next station Ashchurch. Worcester Foregate Street is not part of the loop, it's to the west of the loop route on the Hereford line.
     
  3. vboynton#5128

    vboynton#5128 New Member

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    A FGW Class 180 Adelante would be great for this between Bristol & Worcester
     
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  4. aiden#7974

    aiden#7974 New Member

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    I would love to see this!
     
  5. parder#4923

    parder#4923 Well-Known Member

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    Travelled this route many times so would fully endorse it. However, it could be a challenge for DTG to include the Worcester branches as I think all in you'd have at least 90+ miles of track even if 15 miles is already done between Bromsgrove/Redditch and Birmingham. It would be great if they could though, especially as it adds a lot of extra services.
     
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  6. azzax333

    azzax333 Well-Known Member

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    I get what you mean however mileage wise this actually works out really well. Birmingham - Bristol via Worcester is about 79 miles and once you add the Redditch branch and Worcester spurs it lands right on 90 miles of track - the same kind of the same length as WCML
    Preston-Carlisle so it’s definitely within limits for TSW. But it's also making creating records amount of gameplay for players.

    DTG already have a big chunk built with the Cross-City section (New Street-Bromsgrove + Redditch), so they’d save a lot of dev time and at the same time spark curiosity for players to pick up Cross-City to complete the network. Add in the variety - long intercity runs, short commuter hops, freight over the Lickey Incline, fast running into Bristol - and it has all the ingredients to be a big seller, whether as a late TSW6 route or even a core one.

    For devs, it’s a win because it’s a recognisable in-demand UK route that balances scenic appeal with operational depth, reuses existing assets, and has strong commercial draw for both passenger and freight fans & most importantly the southern part of the cross-city line can be ultimately utilized and recycled. Plus there's big demand in a route like as it provides, long & shorts runs. Passenger & freight will be incredible on a route like this.
     
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  7. alexwarren

    alexwarren New Member

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    Also could like nicely with snow hill lines to moor st etc
     
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  8. azzax333

    azzax333 Well-Known Member

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    This could be a good option for route hopping however snow hill lines don't call at New St, But i'm all good for route hopping as their in walking distance :)

    This could also be achieved at Droitwich Spa & Worcester stations too if snow hill lines were ever added
     
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  9. parder#4923

    parder#4923 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes if they can manage it I think the route proposed has great LAMPOIL potential with such a variety of services running.
     
  10. azzax333

    azzax333 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah to be honest, this route be a more a "Layer" route with the aim to use as much content from other DLC's to place in game for the best immersion. The transition from Bristol to Birmingham would just be fantastic to really make us feell we've travelled a distance to another region of the country from seeing a variety of trains in the different parts of the region from 390's/323's in Birmingham to class 802's & 166's

    With WCMLS, it just made me want a DLC that provides that all types of journey's ideally so we just get a lot of gameplay I'd pay £39.99
     
  11. eMAyTeeTee

    eMAyTeeTee Well-Known Member

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    Let's not give them ideas to start selling DLCs at £40
     
  12. azzax333

    azzax333 Well-Known Member

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    If it was this length and quality is honestly think it would be quite valid but it can't be justified for medium sized routes if we ever charged £40.
    Plus it would have to be a good length and lots of timetable services for £40 I wouldn't mind tbh, just it does have to come with good amount of quality and length for routes to be charged this month however if its anything over £40 I do believe it would scare some people away from purchasing it.
     

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