Gwe Remaster: Appreciation And Discussion Thread

IDK if it's possible but i'm still saying that's will be nice if you can add a class 800 in a next DLC pack and livery pack of 80X (GWR&LNER) that's a suggestion i know but i think it can be possible to make it.

 

DTG Liam this looks amazing!

Quick question- will we still have WHSmith at Reading? Just wondering if there could be an issue there- and it makes me irrationally happy having it in game

 

What's the next remaster after this Liam?

 

This will be the last remaster coming from me.[/QUOTE]
that’s a shame to hear. But I’m really glad that we’ll continue to see your great work as a third party developer.

 

Will the barrier coach work with the ROG 37 and units or not?

 

The ROG 37 has a screw link coupling IIRC, so it should work

 

Ah ok, was only asking as been waiting to do a scenario of 323221 being dragged to Derby but the 37 doesn't couple to it currently.

 

Do I need the island line dlc for the remaster to drive the tube. Thanks

 

Im sorry if already been asked and answered. Is the diesel legends pack getting any work done to it as well. Anyone got any tips on braking with the hst i either brake to late and miss half the platform or to early and dont make the platform. Thanks

 

Brake at the right time.

 

Suspension and all the other TSW4/5 effects

 

If you are doing 125 MPH with the HST it’s probably going to take a mile to stop. Approaching Reading shut off power at Sonning Cutting (halfway between Twyford and Reading) with the brakes firmly in and speed reducing as you approach the Southern line junction.

 

Thanks vern

 

Yes the diesel legends are getting an update too. With regards to stopping the HST, at 0.6 miles away from a platform apply brake notch 1and adjust accordingly after that. A trick I use is match your distance against your speed, so 600 yrds you wannna be at 60 mph, 400 yrds you wanna be at 40 mph, then you hit sweet spot of 30mph, look to be doing no more than that at the start of the platform (TSW usually tells you aim to be doing no more than 30 mph at the start of the platform at the bottom of the load screen) that is what you are aimming for, now you can do it faster, but you will spill everyone's drinks. Everybody knows the HST for its speed, but it has brakes to back that speed up, don't go into a station at 90 mph and wonder why it isn't stopping, think of the HST being like Concorde, it goes supersonic on the long distance stretches, but it flew at conventional aircraft speed as it approached airports, same with the HST, once you get it below 80 mph it stops like most trains, but even better. At 125 mph you have 125 mph or the mass/weight of the HST travelling at that speed to lose and it takes a lot longer and a greater distance to slow down and you overshoot. Hope this helps?

 

Thanks mate cant wait for it.

 

The HST pack looks superb DTG Liam. Also delighted to see that the Heathrow Connect service will likely be represented. My only gripe is that because this was your spare time project, you didn't have the time and resources to add in the multiple freight and passenger branch lines that have been omitted from the original launch of GWE. These would have made your incredible work even more perfect with a vast array of new and different services to choose from. However, all of the improvements revealed so far have blown my mind.

 

I don't want to speak for Liam, but I'm sure it was discussed before, that because of the way original routes are built, even if he wanted to he wouldn't be able too.

I'm sure he'd be able to articulate it far better then my very simple explanation.

 

With what train though?

 

I use a series of speed-distance checks. The actual numbers reflect my preference, but when I use them I never have to brake above Step 1 (except on steep down grades, or if I mess up).

1 mile out: be at 80 mph. Start braking.
1/2 mile out: 60 mph (if you are at 60 before this point, release brakes. On the HST you have to anticipate a bit because the release is slow)
500 yards out: 40 mph
300 yards out: 30 mph
Start of platform: 25 mph. Jockey the brake so that you are doing 10 mph 1 car length from the halt, this should glide you in nicely in Step 1.

 

350 is the most likely candidate & you can make one out in one of HST pack screenshots, in HC colours.

 

Unbranded purple 387s reskinned from Brighton Mainline. Not exactly correct, but the closest we have.

 

That would be the Heathrow Express.

 

Ah, right. Sorry.

Problem with using the 350 is that although it's mechanically closer to the 360, with its connector nose it looks all wrong. I'd use the 700 instead.

 

How is using a 700 any better than using a 350 lol?

 

I have a question for DTG Liam regarding the Heathrow connect class 350. Will they be formed of 5 cars and have the number range 350001-350004 as they were originally built as 350s?

 

Because the 700 like the 360 has a big wide windscreen across the front, whereas the 350 has a connecting door snout and a phone booth cab. Looks completely different.

 

Do you mean class 360s?

 

DTG Liam Will a dlc for a 360 be a consideration at some point for this route?

 

Seems a bit pointless adding a Class 360 specifically for this route, as you would only be able to do Depot runs on it, as GWE doesn't have the route through to Heathrow.

If the 360 was added as part of another route, then it could be added with unbranded AI services and some depot runs.

I really can't wait for the release of this remaster, more so after the latest roadmap info.

 

IRL the first four Heathrow Connect class 360s were built as 350s as demo units and were converted to 360s when Heathrow Connect acquired them, and I was wondering if the number range for the 350s being used to represent the 360s would reflect their original numbers.

 

Hey Liam I’ve got a pretty funny idea extend/a one tiny piece of track I’m talking about 1cm/m like and say you extend it for April fools next year /j

 

A class 360 would only do between Hayes and harlington (coming in as ai from Heathrow) and Paddington via the likes of Southall, Hanwell, West Ealing, Ealing Broadway, Acton Mainline and Paddington. I'm not sure if you are getting confused between the Heathrow connect and the Heathrow express as depots moves would make sense on the Heathrow express

 

This is a shame to hear but hopefully this means your attention will turn to creating more third party DLC of your own!

 

Amazing work as always DTG Liam!

Wondering, I raised a couple of bugs at Reading some time last year when working on my scenario pack (I need to start that up again ready for the release!).

They were about the PIS on Platform 7 not being set for that platform and some of the HST car stop markers missing on some of the platforms. They got logged as JIRAs apparently so hoping they got to you

As soon as this is out I’ll be updating my scenarios and then can release it

 

Hi DTG Liam I know you have added a couple of 802 test runs to the route, but would it be possible to have the 802 as a choice to use on the timetable in replace of a HST on any of the services? Just like the 378 can be chosen to use instead of the 710 on the WCML. This was so close to 2017 when the 802’s were starting to be used sporadically, that I think it would be a very popular addition to the gameplay. Especially as the chances of getting a modern GWR from Paddington to Reading or beyond seem unlikely anytime soon.

 

I disagree and don’t think it should substitute into passenger diagrams. Electric trains commenced service only after electrification reached didcot in 2018. GWE is set in 2015-2016 and uniquely depicts the route mid redevelopment. And I think it’s quite a gem in that regard.

Comparing this with the 378 is a bit silly, the 378s do run on the Watford dc in the era WCMLS depicts, granted they appear much less frequently than the 710s, but that is accounted for with its lower chance of spawning.

Also, free roam exists for a reason. Use it.

 

You can make trains selectable by the player, but not usable by AI. I think that’s what they were asking.

 

I’m asking to make train selectable for a player, not substitute for any AI. Giving players the option to run with the 802 in service mode would not affect anyone else’s experience. I think it would add more variety should you wish to use it. Yes, the period is set then, but nudge forward a year and those trains were starting to be used in service mode. Creative license is being used in many other routes, not least the new Riviera line with the new station. The end game has to be to improve the playability and focus on fun.

 

Still a bit odd, the 802 officially entered service in 2018. How could it be a player substitute? They were still on test when GWE was set. Even with the new timetable as well, it just wouldn’t make sense. If we got Reading - Bristol or something of that nature set in 2018 onwards, it could work. But in 2017, in technical revenue service? Sure I get it, the 800/0’s entered service in 2017, although representing possible class 800 services with the 802? I’m fine with like renumbering them similar to how Liam is changing the 350’s number to the 360 range, but if they keep the same number, it’s gonna seem like a paradox opened up from someone messing with the past whilst using the Tardis.

 

Honestly there’s been enough out of era dlc packs at this point, hell, CCN took artistic liberties with its era. I wouldn’t mind running 802 services.

 

I agree with you. The HST was always the star attraction of GWE and Liam has kept the route to the same era it had at launch.

The modern gang have the Riviera Line to enjoy the 802 in full. How would they feel if I went and demanded the HST fill in for the IET on the main express services? I can imagine a lot of complaints.

 

Most people just enjoy it as a game where they can drive trains. Very small number of people actually know or care that a certain train didn’t officially enter service until a year or so later. Also, as others have said, lots of routes have taken creative license. The suggestion was to give the player an additional option for an 802 to be a playable service, and not an AI service. Therefore it would not appear as AI, and have absolutely no effect on anyone else’s game other than the player who had decided to click on it in their own home, playing their own game. The assumption that this would cause a nervous tick or glitch in the matrix of someone simply knowing another player was playing the game their own way is obscure and absurd.

 

This is what free roam is for, you can spawn in an 802 in the timetable and drive it from Paddington to Reading among the other AI services.

 

I understand both sides, but I never need Free Roam, I don't know, I just prefer the timetable mode.

 

Yes agree an option. Would have been good to have the choice the other way as you feel like you are actually driving the timetabled service but if not possible then understand. I do agree with you but also having options as a players always good