Dovetail Games Riviera Line Q + A Thread

Maybe its a bad thing if you are only just buying the game but come on, I have like about 25 different of the same EWS shed now, is it really a bad thing for it not to be included yet again. Maybe if they made a different freight loco or 66 livery for each route it would be different. But seriously to me, this feels like such a pointless and bad thing to complain about(?)

I don't know, maybe this is a bad take from me, but I feel like most of us would prefer not to have 150 of the same EWS 66s.

 

You can take this as a joke. But there's a grain of truth to it. I want to get rid of some of the old routes that I'm tired of, but I have to keep them for the one locomotive. For a locomotive that already has so many copies that no one will notice another one.
And yes, I believe that the Class 66 and the BR146 with dostos, should become a basic feature of the game, and simply be given for free as part of the game core, rather than being released several times every year as a 'new' ones.

 

Hello would when doing guard mode with the driver finally give you two back on the buzzer like they do in real life? As ever since guard mode has been implemented I don’t remember the driver in game ever giving my two back on the buzzer. They normally just set off when only one is given as well.

 

Not sure if it's been discussed but what freight services will thier be in the game

 

Good question hated that the 801 door controls. The ones where you insert the key never worked from the cab and had to change the key to key only to close them.

 

I support this concern about rivet and I’m not frightened to bad mouth them, they are flipping useless with a track record of never going back and fixing anything they produce. After last year I’m not preordering anything they might have been involved in. Period.
as for making the route modern instead of retro that’ll likely be down to console sales as most of those players just want to whizz around in silent airliners without wings.
As for the sea I can almost guarantee it will be like a mill pond.

 

Another question on the announcements, has the volume been raised since that initial 5 minute preview video? They seemed just right at Hoboken station on the American stream.

I know the volume can be adjusted in the settings menu, but if the loudest settings option is too quiet, then the only way to make it appear louder is to reduce the volume of everything else.

 

Does the 802 have cruise control/speed set. If so will it e enabled.

 

What announcements are we getting ?

 

Will the 150 have a more realistic flange squeal? Unlike the horrendous noise the WCL model has.

 

Will the Europhoenix ROG 37 be programmed so we can couple and haul Rivera line trains ?

 

Platform ones announcing the next train, and on-train ones

 

Will the waves along the shoreline splash over the track like irl? Lol

 

If we lucky they might though I’m unsure how resource intensive this would be

 

Is the HST with the dragon livery included in the route?

 

I did notice in live videos of the line there are walkways or paths along the route if there will be foot traffic in game

 

Without water physics it won't be resource intensive. Just a visual. If it made by an experienced dev, you won't notice the difference in performance.

 

Will there be a XC HST

 

What will the Class 802 sounds be like;
- what’s new/ improved and reused (reused from the 801). (In other words how different will the sounds be from the 801?)
- Where will the diesel/ electric motor sounds be sourced from?.
- Are door sounds louder as they should be (801 is too quiet) and timed so it actually fits with the door animation as per reality (Another 801 issue).
- Have the sounds for relevant item had their loudness increased, as they are not as loud as they should be/ are irl.

Other features:
- Same functional elements on the TMS screen or new features added?.
- Will the horn have the original tone as it should in real life (The Class 801’s use KSJ).
- Will the train wash button work?
- Will the power change buttons work correctly (pressing them for a few secs before they light up and operate the relevant function). Will the ‘Electric’ and ‘Diesel’ buttons work so that when holding them down for 10 seconds they automatically switch power modes?
- How different will the 802 be from the 801 in terms of other features of the train? What has been improved on from the latter onto the former and what is entirely new?
- When in electric mode, will the VCB light correctly extinguish when the pantograph makes contact with the overhead wires (This is an ever-present issue on the Class 801 which is inaccurate).
- Will the signal buzzer in the cab and guard panel actually sound (Again, an issue on the 801).

 

No, just a 220

 

I have a very important question, no laughing!

Will there be seagulls? Seeing as we travelling near the Dawlish coast and beaches. I would expect to be hearing a lot of ha-ha-ha-ha or keow sounds, by Kamikaze seagulls stealing npc’s air pods that they mistakenly thought were chips.

 

No, that's coming with the farewell HST pack by GrumpDog (aka Liam).

 

I just hope when they do the stream the route/trains are top notch. Because its the day before release so I would have thought there are showing the gold product and the not working progress version.

 

Is the infamous 'Driver mode' bug (non functional MFD's on consoles) finally fixed ? If the answer is yes, any way of showing us a short vid proving this during the stream? I take it the preview stream will be on pc

 

Does the route come with all sidings (depot or otherwise) and platforms accessible for Scenario Creation?
Will you add in "Go Via" markers to the through lines at Dawlish Warren and Totnes so that it is simple to design overtaking in Scenarios?
Are there portals, that are useable in Scenario Creation, at all points of the route where trains might be viewed entering or leaving the route?
Will the Save function work correctly in scenarios?
If not, Why not?

 

It still appears to be coming,but what year is anybodys guess

 

That will be a no then

 

Question about another long lasting bug: the fact that accumulated raindrops/snow on windows disappears when you switch to between cab cam and outside cam. Will that be fixed in TSW6 ?

 

How many services do the Class 43 HST and Class 166 from GWE have on this route?

Why doesn't the 802 (and a few other trains) not have train faults at launch? What faults will it have? Can it be guaranteed that thus won't end up taking right to the end of TSW6 and into TSW7 like suspension from TSW4 took right to the end and into TSW5?

 

Please tell me Riverside yard is included

 

OK it will;

"Players with the West Somerset Railway Add-on and Riviera Line will see the Class 150 services replaced with the GWR version, which was used in real life during the 2019 shuttle trials that took place. The Class 220 Voyager will also appear as AI on the short section of Great Western main line, for players with Deluxe/Special Edition or the loco Add-on. These changes will be implemented in an update post-launch."

 

Are the Voyager layers on the BCC 170 timetable all AI, or are some drivable?

 

Are random failures detectable if you drive without HUD or you must have that pop up window to know what is wrong?

 

How many playable and AI services are on the route?

 

The route article published today is really good, especially on the timetable. For the railtours and other special services would it possible to get a table layout published showing the services and layers required? This just makes it a bit clearer as a quick reference and avoids any confusion.

 

DTG Harry. Why was Plymouth chosen and what was the reason for this?

Did you not consider going a few miles further to St Austell? This would have joined up with the WCL!

There are so many routes in TSW that have illogical terminal, or perhaps there will be a connecting add-on in the future?

 

Ending the route at St Austell’s would’ve been a terrible choice and more illogical compared to Plymouth. Plymouth on the other hand is one of the busiest station in Devon which serves as a major hub for connecting lines towards Scotland, Penzance and London.

What would be a dream come true though is connecting the WCL with the Riviera line in the future. The WCL is well and truly abandoned by Rivet, might as well merge it with the Riviera line to give it a new lease on life. TSW8 core route?

 

I agree, I think if they ended this route at St Austell that would be absolutely criminal, at that point just take it down to Penzance. We would end up with the exact same problem as we have with WCL. I'd actually be pretty annoyed if it went to St Austell when it could have gone to Exmouth and maybe Okehampton or Barnstaple instead for the same length, that seems far more sensible to me.
I'm still hoping that one day WCL can be remade and go to Plymouth, perhaps in modern era kind of like Island Line 2022 was, Id happy pay for it provided it was actually good.

 

What era is the route in meaning will Marsh Barton be included?

 

yes that’s my hope as well, if I recall correctly it was actually modelled originally in the modern era and rivet had to backdate it due to the lost of the licence.

 

Marsh Barton is included

 

Actually this has reminded me that we never asked a more important avian question.
Will there be black swans at Dawlish?
If not then we all need to cry "fowl"

 

Is there going to be a trophies/achievements for the voyager, like with the flying scotsman?

 

The screen on the left of the desk is the TMS, the one on the right you're asking about is the DAS (Driver Advisory System).

 

Being that there are no achievements for add ons this time round, I'd assume no

 

A few miles? Isn't that over 20 miles?

 

Will the liveries from Liam's HST pack sub onto the HST services on this route?

 

Anyone know what liveries are included in that?

 

From the Roadmap;

 

Will the new updated non-diesel sounds be backdated to the Azuma 801?