Wcml Preston To Crewe Discussion

Can always do a full Edinburgh to Kings Cross with Class 55 on TSC!

 

A signal always at danger at Peterborough, a bridge "floating in the air" not far from Nortallerton, the track without cant between York and Newcastle, etc, etc.
It's obsolete by now, I would like to keep up with the times

 

Icons and Lampoil dont produce a marketable viable product (Maybe)

 

Then wait until TSW25 bring it to you . TSC allows you to fix broken stuff - lol

 

Just stirring up an Eastern Region v London Midland Region dispute and reminding all of which one has a history of record-breaking traction (that actually works).

 

That'll be the GWR then!!

 

I am curious about timetable intensity. How many tph etc.

 

Ha, I didn't even think factor GWR in. They of course got through a record number of traction types on their fast services; Warships, Westerns, Blue Pullmans, 50s and HSTs in 15 years. Though the 50's barely had time to get settled into their post WCML jobs.

 

There's only 1 region that managed to get a double decker train into service.

 

I don't suffer from claustrophobia but having seen how the 4-DDs were configured, jeez

 

Is that the Southern’s number 1 claim? Ultimately, it was a failed experiment.

I believe in the ‘Big 4’ years 1923-1948 the Southern Railway was the world’s largest electrified railway system.

Even as a London Midland man, I have to admit that the intensity of the network and frequency of service south of the Thames was - and is - remarkable. One of the wonders of the railway world.

 

Anyone who worked on writing timetables or who worked at a signalbox on the Southern gets my respect. It's like a huge jigsaw puzzle.

However, as someone who has spent the last five years tracking and recording rolling stock allocations, I have no kind words for whoever it was on Southern who decided on a new EMU renumbering scheme every flipping year. If I had enough hair, I'd have spent the last few years pulling it out.

 

Right now we know the route will include the Deepdale branch, Bickershaw colliery, Parkside colliery and fiddlers ferry power station, all of which deviate off the mainline.

Are there any further branches that we know of or can suspect will also be included? Realistic branches I mean (not the full line to Liverpool)

Personally I’m hoping for the Preston docks to be included.

 

I'm just going off of OpenStreetMap, I don't know about the service patterns back in the day - would having Earlestown and Newton-le-Willows accessible add any interest to some of the local services? Were there trains from Liverpool or Manchester that stopped at either of these stations and then joined the WCML? Or potentially even local services along the WCML that left the main line just to stop at Newton-le-Willows?

 

I know in modern times there are a couple of services that come from Manchester (entering on the right if the picture) through Newton and Earlestown, then join the main line through Warrington, branching off towards Frodsham - I couldn't say for certain if that was also the case back in the later 80s.