Two Brand New Uk Dlcs Found (spoiler Warning)

Two brand new UK based DLC's have been discovered on Epic Games Database.

These are:

Southern Class 171 & Class 377/3 Gameplay Pack
ScotRail Inter7city Class 43 Pack

Sources:
https://epicdb.org/item/b4c8f6340c1d4ca1ad8ae6ac397f0577/history
https://epicdb.org/item/5b6978d6a10e40f49f9972a7afdb8af8/history

 

Well the 171 needs either the Uckfield Line or an East Coastway extension from Eastbourne to Ashford via Hastings. A bit pointless just from Victoria to East Croydon.

In either case I would have preferred a Thumper DEMU.

 

Well I'm pretty confident that ECW isn't getting an extension, likely it will be a new timetable set back when 171's ran from Brighton to Eastbourne and 313's were still in service.

 

I hope to god the scotrail class 43 is real since it runs on my local line

 

I'll just say that I was hoping for a while that we would get a Scotrail HST, it has the sliding door mk3s. I do sometimes drive it in the Fife Circle timetable mod but its not proper.

 

The class 171 sounds good, a new route with a paid extension to Ashford would be ideal but I would still buy a 171 even if the route doesn't get remastered/extended

It would also be nice if with the ScotRail version of the Class 43 we finally get the ability to go into the guard compartment, I think that would easily make it worth it

 

Interesting, maybe this is the Rivet developed stuff that Tyler was referring too in the bcc class 170 stream?

 

Scotrail Class 43 pack? Is that why the 158 for Fife is taking so long?

 

That's my immediate thought, too.

 

I bet they (dtg) really canned it so Rivet can make their new timetable instead of the Skyhook one that's been promised for over a year at this point. Suddenly makes sense why dtg never talk about the 158 one and why it keeps being pushed back for seemingly no reason. Well, I guess I shalln't be buying it out of principle if this is true

 

(This is assuming the leaks are true)

Yes!!!!!!!!
Lovely to see more additions to East Coastway, though I hope this isn't the full extent of a DTG return to the Southern Region. The East Coastway 377/4 also had better get the new sounds and PIS as well.

On the other hand, while I would love to see DTG return to the Southern region, I'd personally rather see South Western or South Eastern, and this gameplay pack would indicate a future SR route would be GTR Southern, which I care less for. I'd take a South London Network, but I fear it would be the Eastern half of the West Coastway which is basically just a straight line with loads of stations close together.

If some of the West Coastway is done, I'd rather they do the Western half as there is a lot more variety, with 450s, 166s and 158s as well.

Also on the Inter7city HST, I hope that pack isn't required for the 158 timetable.

 

If it is a class 171 for Eastcoastway then I hope it gets a TOD4 upgrade. Even better if it got an extention to Ashford.

It still looks good today for an older route, except for the lighting.

 

Very encouraged by both of these, more stock, and new timetables.

The Southern pack is more likely East Coastway, and if so it'll add 387s and 700s to Brighton. London to Brighton feels much less likely, but I think we'd all like to see the 700s appear.

 

I think this'll be more of what they did with the 170 on Birmingham

 

An East Coastway loco is an interesting potential. The route is ancient and looks pretty awful by today's standards with the old lighting. If they are doing a loco and/or timetable update for it I will be expecting a TOD4 update which would be the big story.

 

It didn't happen on Hamburg to Lubeck when the 218 was released, so I wouldn't say it is guaranteed, especially if it is a third party release. I would love to be wrong though.

 

As far as I know, the Southern 171’s ran London Bridge to Uckfield services, calling at East Croydon but not at South (Croydon), so it pretty much rules out BML, leaving East Coastway as the safest bet for an ‘add-on’ pack.

Is there any discernible trait of the 377/3 other than being another sub-class of an existing EMU?

 

The 377/3 is the 3-car one and I ghink has the older light clusters.

 

Yep. I’ve just learnt that they now run on the coast way services, replacing the old 3-car 313’s.

 

Very happy about the Scotrail HST pack, it’s been conspicuous in its absence for ages and whilst Skyhook using the GWR ones filled a gap, much prefer to get the real thing.

 

Which I support wholeheartedly.

 

So West coastway is my local line but I've definitely been on a 171 from Brighton down towards Hastings albeit years ago. I've seen them around Brighton so I'd lean towards east coastway as well. Still love the route although it is showing its age a bit now.

Would love the Hastings DEMU to make an appearance though. Would be a day one for me!

Edit - Apparently around 2018 the 171s were cut back down from running to Brighton and ended in Eastbourne. Which would add up with the time period of my trip from Brighton towards Hastings.

 

No doubt it’s Tyler doing the 171, so the TT will likely come out pretty good & we’ll finally get GX on ECW, but it will absolutely need the ToD4 upgrade. The other features would be nice too but the lighting is a must. It’ll be really nice to revisit that route though, especially in a more panoramic cab. As above the 218 didn’t get this upgrade, but it was at least playable on other routes, something the 171 doesn’t really have scope to do.

 

just thought about the Scotrail HST pack.


If those sliding MK3s are getting modeled with it. Couldn't they just then create a castle set HST easily?

It's the same thing really, just different livery.

 

So from my research the 171 did the Brighton-Ashford but as they were only 2 cars they struggled to cater for the passenger load between Brighton and Eastbourne which then was given to the larger 377s in 2018. I guess it makes sense to keep EMUs running over the third rail network and keeping the DMUs for the section to Ashford.

 

Oh yeah same. I'm just saying, don't expect much

The 171 will almost certainly be East Coastway - the giveaway is the 377/3, the 3-car one that runs the route now the 313s have been withdrawn (ironically, the 313s actually replaced the 377/3 so the latter could move to London).

 

It'll be interesting to see how the 171 works, I think the only major difference to the 170 is the front coupler.

As has been said they no longer run between Brighton and Eastbourne, but the 3 car 377's have only been running about 2 or so, but its a bit of an era mishmash on ECW, unless they've been around longer prior to the withdrawals of the 313's.

I guess on London Commuter you could replace the 313 runs with the 171 (last time I checked it think it was ECS stock movements from Selhurst to Brighton).

Edit: A quick look suggests that Class 377/3's used to run on ECW, before being relocated to suburban services when the Class 313's took over the Coastway services and then returned when the 313's were withdrawn from service in 2023.

 

I wouldn't want to see the 313s replaced though, better to keep the variety.

On London Commuter 171s would be the following AI services:

2tph Windmill Bridge Junction to South Croydon (stopping at East Croydon only)
1tph Brighton to the east

And maybe the odd driveable stock move

 

East coastway is a nice little route, if this is adding the 171s which used the run the Ashford services (they definitely ran from Brighton, I have the drivers eye DVD) and the London to Eastbourne services between Lewes and Eastbourne, and the daily London Seaford services, I will be a happy man

 

I'm all for updating / bringing back ECW. Run it through to Hastings / Ore (I know Ashford would be much better but lets try and increase the chances of DTG picking up this project by keeping it simple). Would pay full whack for this if it was TOD4 and came with a new livery for the CL33.

 

October Roadmap is coming up. Would be nice if this becomes official. Especially the Scotrail Class 43.

 

Hmmm the Oxted Line isn't too long, branches off the BML and has a couple interesting offshoots.
Not sure how much call there'd be for that, but the 171s could work there.

Eastbourne to Ashford is about 50ish miles and links two existing routes (if the SEHS was expanded 14 miles to Ashford as a LOT of people have suggested)

I'd bet if anything that'd be the new route this would go on (if real)
That'd be a nice drive from the looks of it.
Never been on it though myself.

 

I think your all reading into this a bit too much, if the dlc themselves are real I very much doubt they'd have route extensions packed into them, just look at older loco dlcs.

 

May I ask when is October roadmap. This week or next?

 

East Coastway I always stand by saying as one of the best TSW routes and one that really has stood the test of time, it’s a route I really enjoy still. So any future DLC / timetable improvements are welcomed.

 

I know it probably wont, but I'll only pick up the 171 if East Coastway gets a TOD4 upgrade. Otherwise running new trains on old routes make them look really out of place, as the lighting is so vastly different. Funnily enough I was actually thinking about making a Scotrail HST suggestion thread, but I guess I don't need to now

 

Judging that the 377/3 has an older headlight cluster, I imagine it'll be a new older timetable. Not a route extension.

 

I guess the class 43 will available for Fife Circle Line.

 

Sadly, the Glasgow-Edinburgh route and Fife Circle are not long enough to have authentic HST services as we have seen with the current timetable that came with the 158.
Both those routes really need an extension to make proper use of the HSTs.

 

Great news!!!! I'm looking forward to the new game packs and schedule for East Coastway and Fife Circle.

 

A reminder that Tyler made an ECW timetable back in 2024 before he became an employee for Rivet. I'm pretty confident it will just be an expansion of this work tidied up a bit with the 171 included. He even mentions space being left for the 171 in his mod but not having the ability to make it happen. I would also hazard a guess that there will not be any upgrade or extension to the route itself, that would be down to DTG. Anyway, this TT is fantastic and really does add a whole lot to the route.
East Coastway Timetable by 2TallTyler - Train Sim Community

 

I hope that the 377/1 is also included. It'd be a bit strange to do all that effort to model the older headlights and not include a /1, since some of those had the older headlights, as well as a different interior.

 

I would guess the 7th of October ??. Isn’t it usually the first Tuesday of each month ?.

 

I agree. Extend the Fife Circle line to Dundee and now your talking.

 

So, class 171 and class 377/3, sounds nice as a gameplay pack for East Coastway, but I would like to see with it:
- East Coastway upgrade to TOD4
- East Coastway extension to Ore
- Brighton Mainline class 377/1 to recieve correct headlights
- Brighton Mainline actually recieving a new timetable it deserved when class 700 was released

 

I doubt any one of those things will happen. Not to say that it will be a bad pack or anything.

 

I think a TOD4 update to East Coastway is likely. There is usually an additional selling point when a loco is released for an existing route.
The 380 brought a very good update to Cathcart Circle.
The 170 pack brought much needed AI to Cross-City.
The 700 came with....oh, okay so that's ruined my logic.

As much as most of us would love an extension to Ore (or beyond), I can't see it coming with a loco pack.

 

Oxted Lines would be better in the Thumper era anyway, nice little network particularly if set before the rationalisation and closure of the route from Eridge to Tunbridge Wells and the electrification to East Grinstead.

 

One can dream

 

BML/ECW Mega Merger and Remaster, which would also incorporate the criminally underused TL Class 700!


Take my money!!!



p.s. i know it'll never happen though