Route Morristown Line New York & Hoboken - Dover - Feedback

NJT LIRR went with these braking systems cause they were better suited for their operations.

 

Manual lap brakes AREN'T hard to use, especially on the keyboard. If you're over braking or going into the wrong notch, it's likely because you are holding the keys down vs tapping them one notch at a time. If they were difficult to use, I wouldn't be able to run these trains the way I do in my demo videos.

Suppression is 15-16 lbs in the simulation, so all you need to do is reduce the EQ/BP down from 110 psi to about 95 psi, and the suppression light bar will illuminate on the SDU. IRL it's anywhere from 16 to 20 lbs depending on the specific locomotive or cab car. Remember that you still need to acknowledge any alarms with the "Q" key in addition to putting the brakes in suppression, otherwise you will still get a penalty brake.

On the Arrows, as stated before, general suppression is achieved with the same 16 lb reduction (approx 50% on the brake handle). The suppression notch (between Full Service and Handle Off) is only used to recover from a penalty brake application should one occur.

 

Are you playing on console or pc.

 

I have to do some investigating on this. I'll get back to you and let you know what I find. I did open a ticket for this issue

 

it takes a bit of practise... personally, if I want just some light braking, I just put it into service for like half a second or second, which gets enough air into the thing before dynamics also kick in... for hard braking, I wouldnt go more than 2 secs unless you plan to stop... if you want into suppression, a second or two is usually enough to get enough air and eventually it says suppression on the display

for a finer speed control, if you are not under pressure cos of beeping inferno , then you can use the dynamic brakes on the combined throttle controller

 

When in the 2D map, have you hovered the cursor over that signal, it very well may be a "stop and proceed". The AI signaler can't recognize this type of signal and, therefore, says denied and wait.

 

Will try that tonight but this service I have seen it get clear signal before.didn't have time this morning to check but I will tonight. But it actually doesn’t say anything when I you request the dispatcher

 

On PS5 the entrance Tunnels from Sunnyside yard to Penn Station have weird looking or missing textures and mesh heights. Also rain is visible in tunnels and the station itself. Also some parts of the tracks there are missing the OHLE. Apart from that one of my favourite US Routes.

 

Will give it a go later this am, EDT.

 

Hello,
Bug found on ALP-46: the battery switch does not cut off the command post, and the screens are still on.
However, it does cut off the cabin lighting.

Tested in the training center with an ALP-45DP on another track that had the battery deactivated (in case of a conflict).

 

I love the manual lap brakes. They add a bit of challenge to a route. Once you get the hang of them and when to activate them by how much they make sense. Lots of routes have EMUs that are so forgiving that they make the game basically pretty boring. Lap brakes keep you on your toes.

And with an electric loco it’s a bit more forgiving than a full diesel - I learned the lap brakes on the Caltrain F40 which was even harder.

I did ask the same question myself on why NJT IRL went with these brakes on brand new locos when they could have had the more modern/user friendly system like on the Euro/ACS-64. I think the answer is that these brakes were needed to work with their coaching stock.

 

The caltrain f40 was hard took me ages to get hang of them.

 

The big difference is with the ALP (at least in electric mode), if you screw up your braking, the loco is responsive and you can get your speed back up quickly. The lumbering F40 was so slow to respond to powering up, if you braked too early and lost speed you were hopeless on keeping time.

 

Hi, I'm playing on PC Steam.

 

Agreed, my usual approach is to go into service then back to lap as quick as I can for an initial application, see how the train reacts, then progressively apply more. I would say even that tiny application carries a fair amount of braking force and I can usually ride that to the beginning of the platform (if not further) before applying more.

The other thing to remember is that if you’ve applied too much braking, you can put the lever into Hold, which actually reduces the braking force (rather than holding it as the name would imply).

I initially hated the braking system but as I got used to it I enjoy the challenge and planning it requires.

 

Hold itself doesn’t reduce it, but you can alternate between hold and release to graduate off.

 

Apparently, per NJ Rail regulations you should only go to (and stay in) hold below 25mph.
If above, then go all the way to release, and reapply as needed I would think.
(I learned that from fan railer's video btw)

 

erick191, MAX1319 I have now run service 872 as far as Summit and can get no farther. Here is the sequence of events I noted.
1, My train, 872, comes into Summit track 2 on a sequence of Advanced approach, approach, stop. The signal is an interlock home, so no stop and proceed here.
2. When I check the 2D map I see that my train is routed 2 to 1 at the crossover just east of Summit.
3. There is an approaching west bound train on 2 which will be going into the Wall track, so it's being on the 2 is correct.
4. There is another west bound on 2, X37, a deadhead that goes into the yard just east of the station.
5. The inbound on the Wall track is turning for an east bound, 6320, to NYC leaving at 0819. My train is still looking at a red.
6. 6320 leaves on time at 0819, then that empty in the yard comes into the Wall track, my train still has a red.
7. At 0822, 10 minutes past my scheduled departure, I decide to abort. I am still looking at that red, and my train is still routed 2 to 1 per the map.

 

I remember Brandon saying this in one of the videos he did for the NYC Trenten.

 

thank you. will update the Jira with this information. much appreciate it

 

Is there a ticket for the marker lights being off by default for player trains and trailing ALP-46s having the wrong pantagraph up?

 

So was this route and the main route train any better after the launch day update.Xbox One mainly

 

there's is Jira ticket fot the headlights staying on for the ALP46 leaving Penn when trailing and the rear Panto. what's the exact issue on the marker lights as I need to write it correctly so the Devs to get confused, Info that is needed is either ALP46 is leading or trailing stuff like that.

 

MAX1319 Wanted to make a conclusion on this,
With the player train being routed 2 to 1 just east of the station, would guess the people who wrote the schedules were planning for the east bound train to move over to the one to run past the 2 west bounds on the 2 coming into Summit. Somehow, the west bounds were given priority in the scheduling.

 

I know for sure that if you load into either loco, the marker lights on the cab car are off by default. Not sure about the other way around.

 

I'll investigate this tonight

 

as far as I know, hold is to hold the pressure on the brake cylinder while also charging the brake pipe in the meantime

 

Might be an unpopular opinion but I kind of prefer they don't fix the wrong rear pantograph. I actually enjoy running to the back cab and manually switching them. But that's just me...

 

MAX1319 did you perhaps included why this is happening in the JIRA ticket? from my observation, it happens when AI finishes a service in the loco, and then starts another service from the cab. This is not just limited to Penn btw. If the service goes out through the portal, and you wait for it to come back from the portal cab leading, the headlights on the loco will still be on.

 

I did include the reason but didn't know it was also happening coming out of the portal. will update the Jira with that info. thanks

 

Yea not just that, also not you if you guys remember the issue on NYT with the ALp46 driving around with Panto down. so a bit afraid of opening a can on worms

 

I would like to add that
the emergency stop buttons are not functioning either.
They have no effect once activated.

 

Thank you for the feedback. I have put in a Jita ticket for this

 

just want to confirm this is on the ALP46 correct?

 

Thanks
Yes, it's on the ALP 46.

For the batterie switch on ALP 46
The ALP 45DP has a similar bug, but only on the screen, which remains on without the battery.

 

I think I've found another one on ALP 46:
the “wheel slip” lamp does not light up when the locomotive slips, and the same goes for the indicator on the screen.
The locomotive successfully activates automatic sanding.

 

I noticed this too on PS5.

One positive is that (unlike a lot of other trains) you can use the free cam to open the door and go in to flick the switch. Instead of needing to walk all the way back.

 

The LOD distance on the cab car is poor, and leads to the front PIS screens displaying full orange and some weird lighting artifacts inside of the cab once you get a short distance away (which is quite distracting)

 

I play without the current speed on the HUD. It's hard to read speedometer on the ALP-46 when the sun hits it. A simple brightness settings for this display would have been enough(buttons already there, but they obviously don't work). By the way, the NYT version doesn't have this problem.

 

Put in a ticket-
- Player service Multilevels when trailing with either the ALP45 or ALP46 have the marker lights off. verified the switch is set to off. this affects all player services with trailing Multilevels

 

I have put in a ticket for this. thank you for your feedback

 

thank you for your feedback, this is a known issue and has already been filed on Jira

 

thank you for the feedback. this has been filed on Jira

 

So far I'm loving it. I like NORAC signals and with the traffic along some of the services, it's a good way to really learn the signals. UK routes tend to bore me because of their simple signal aspects and braking.

fan railer You seem to know a lot about this route. When approaching Newark Broad St heading East, is it normal to have an approach medium followed by a clear then another approach medium right before the station? This seems odd and is prevalent in every service I've done so far.

 

The ATC helps to enforce track limits in certain areas. Prior to ACSES, ATC was the only thing preventing overspeeding.

 

Yes this is normal. The first signal protects the 35 mph curve at roseville interlocking (where the MOBO line comes in), and the second signal protects the 30 mph speed limit at newark broad st itself.

 

The screen above the window of the NJT multilevel cab car witch shows traction and all, is way to bright but unlike the Alp 46 and 45 this screen can not be adjusted in brightness and does not respond to any other input like day or night mode

 

From Dover to Morris there is random FPS drops from place to place. FPS is high and stable on the rest of the route.
Not a shader compilation, because it's a third full length run.

ALP-46 from NYT keeps running with spotlights on the push loco, illuminating the tracks behind.

Passengers at Millburn platform 2 ignores the trains, they just stare.

Also why is it red if I'm not speeding?

 

It is a known bug; if you release a suppression brake before you are under the target speed, the red circle gets stuck on.

 

How to start uphill in a snow on cabcar? Train keeps rolling back, and loco's wheels keeps slipping. There is no individual brakes, like on CTC-5, and loco doesn't apply any power before the train brakes are fully released.
I don't think that in reality everything is so clumsy, instead there is some sort of a holding brake to prevent train from rolling back.