Stuttgart To Heilbronn Discussion

It’s DTGs issue with the Console Version, it was an really bad decision with the PS4 and Xbox One Release in 2025.
The low Framerate is because of the outdated UE4 Engine and without DLSS, DLAA or Frame Generation.
I‘m playing on a RTX 5070ti with the AMD 7 7800X3D but the Performance is Not Great and the Game Looks Not good at all with the TAA Aliasing

 

I saw a TSW6 performance test on Xbox One, oh boy, I can't understand they had the courage to release this. Terrible framerate, blurry textures, it really looks like....

For console FSR could also help, the current TAA is pretty poor

 

PC is the Same, even with engine.ini and God Mode, the Game Looks awful with a Lot of flickering like overheads, fences, Tracks or freight cars

 

Never experienced any of this, even without any mods and that was on my old PC which had mid-end specs.
If you experience issues on a low-end pc, then i only can say its called low-end for a reason.
For the console Gen release part, i cant remember to have seen any info regarding the plattforms stuttgart will release on.
Same for information about the sbahn system, which still has a good chance to be fullly implemented as the tunnel section is rather short compared to Frankfurt.
I assume only smaller branch line routes similar to Niddertalbahn or Maintalbahn will be available for gen 8 and i think its only fair for gen 8 players to get access to stuff they could run.

The topic about the core game releasing on consoles is also a bit old. Matt P. already explained these old gen consoles only take extra effort but are not holding back the game overall. Furthermore he also said the majority of players still using gen 8 are slowly chaning to gen 9, so it is very likely the next TSW wont release for gen 8.

If you question DTG for why blurry textures and other stuff has not been fixed, i recommend to watch the last roadmap Q&A section with Matt answering what they are doing for consoles atm and that blurry textures likely will be the next point on their list.

I think all of this already is a topic in more dedicated threads, so i suggest to go back to topic asap.

 

The mentioned issues, I see them in youtube vids about TSW, both from PC and console. But it looks like it's a lot worse in HD mode on console and FHD when played on PC. TAA has serious issues, in general but for sure on this game.

If you look at the limitations of last gen and the way it looks. TSW6 shouldn't be released on last gen. On Dresden - Leipzig you can only drive the BR442 from the timetable, to name one of the limitations.

The issues like blurry textures should be resolved before the release of TSW6, they where already an issue in the whole lifetime of TSW5. Yes they can talk a lot about fixing issues, but I will believe it when they finally fix them. So don't downplay the issues this game has, I totally understand the fact people are concerned about getting again something like a bad performing Frankfurt to Fulda or an empty Frankfurt S-bahn. Since last week I'm playing both Frankfurt routes on Xbox Series S, so Frankfurt - Fulda without any layers and the reduced timetable of the S-bahn route and I really think the S-bahn route can have some more trains driving around, at least some regional trains around Frankfurt Hbf.

 

I‘m playing in 1440p but it doesnt Look Great either on PC.
It’s time for a Change DTG to DLSS and DLAA, TAA is totally outdated and awful in 2025

 

They should at least release it with FSR. The rest can be done with an optiscaler.

 

FSR is AMD and DLSS/DLAA NVIDIA

 

Correct, but FSR works also on NVIDIA and Intel cards and ofcourse on consoles.

 

As a PC user, I can't support the complaints about TSW performance.

My personal experience on two platforms shows that TSW has good playback and gameplay.

Platform 1: MSI Laptop; i7-7700K; GTX1060; High settings; Full HD resolution; 35-60 FPS.

Platform 2: PC; i7-12700K; RTX4080S; 4K resolution; Ultra settings (TSW God Mode, ini settings "Beast v2.3.0"); 60 FPS (frame rate cap set, 100% GPU load, up to 20% CPU load).

I note improved performance on the TSW6 compared to the TSW5. In VR mode (Quest3 headset), I notice a significant reduction in stuttering, blurring, and lag.

 

Using an optiscaler, you can replace the FSR with the DLSS and vice versa. Unfortunately, we don't have anything.

 

FSR or DLSS not only improves performance but also enhances image quality. At the very least, you can eliminate the dreadful TAA anti-aliasing.

 

How is TAA dreadful? It looks the best
nvm. I went to see a comparison and Im defenitely changing when i get home

 

In any case, it is worse than DLAA or AMD analogues.

 

Look at The Bus, No flickering at all with DLSS and DLAA Quality

 

For my part, i would like to actually talk about Stuttgart to Heilbronn and not something off-topic. There are more than enough threads about DLSS and DLAA and i want to point out that, similar to most questions, Matt P. already answered this in a RM livestream.
The answer being that DTG modified UE4 to an extend which makes it way harder to "just" implement it than most people think.

For an on-topic question, what could be the reason DTGs audio team visits/visited the route this week? Maybe for the n-wagen sounds?
For what i know TRI still operates WiKo´s and n-wagen.
Or even better, maybe they wont just remix 110 sounds for the 140?

 

While there’s still time to say this, I just hope the 140 will get a working whistle like the 194/1020, and that the n-wagen doors will be openable separately, like on the Mittenwaldbahn.

 

Still fascinating when people say that, probably just to say it. But you know that both locos are technically exactly the same? Only difference is the gear ratios what you can barely hear at all.

 

The old-style doors were replaced in the 1990s when the interiors were refurbed. So the Bremen red-with-green-innards type will be what we get.

 

I agree this does sound disrespectfull and no i did not know they are that similar. Sorry for that.
This was more or less an attempt to guess what the team wants to record in Stuttgart, so i assumed the 140 would sound at least different enough to justify recording completely new sounds.
I am not sure what else there is to record, so this was a bit pointless guessing from my side.

 

Your guess/assumption is not that wrong. I admit that the used sounds on the 110 are not the newest ones, but they are originals though. So they would fit a 140 perfectly. But yes, there is room for improvements of course. So, if DTG has recorded a 140 there, it would be welcome to have some newer sounds. But new recordings do not mean better sound. The 'old' ones are not that bad besides the horn and the joint sounds. We will see what comes along.

 

What i ment was this:

Photo - Bahnbilder
The doors on the n-wagens from Bremen and the Linke Rheinstrecke can’t be opened like this, they always open together.

 

Yes, the n-Wagen kept the old-style doors until they went in for overhaul- which was not necessarily when they were painted red. While it is certainly the case that ca 2003 there were still quite a few with the old interiors and doors, I can't imagine DTG doing a new coach when the Bremen type would be perfectly acceptable in that time period.

 

afaik the n wagen from the Frankfurt Fulda gameplay pack let you open single doors like on Mittenwald, so possibly the stuttgart ones will too (as DTG did it themselves with the 111 pack)