Dovetail Games Train Simulator Classic 2025 Update Out Now!

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  1. DTG Jamie

    DTG Jamie Community Manager Staff Member

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    Train Simulator Classic, the ultimate railway hobby, is back for 2025 with three iconic routes from the wide world of railways. Click here to visit the store



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    The Chatham Main Line is featured in its entirety from London Victoria to Ramsgate and Dover via Faversham. The Sheerness Branch is also included, as is London Blackfriars, totalling over 130 miles of South East railway to explore. Also featuring are a selection of Southeastern EMUs, including the BR Class 465/9 for long-distance Networker action.

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    The historic Norfolk Southern (ex-Southern Railway) Saluda Grade route extends 70 miles from Asheville, North Carolina, to Spartanburg, South Carolina, and includes the legendary and daunting 4.7 per cent railroad grade that ascended the east slope of the magnificent Blue Ridge Mountains. You’ll climb aboard three types of authentic Norfolk Southern diesels and experience extraordinary and memorable mountain railroading.

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    Konstanz and Villingen are connected by more than 90km of scenic inter-city rail. From Konstanz, the line starts off as the Upper Rhine Railway, which has followed the path of the great river since the 1840s. The Upper Rhine Railway stretches all the way from Mannheim down to the Swiss city of Basel, before sharply darting east and following, plus frequently crossing, the German-Swiss border all the way to Konstanz. You will experience all of this from the cab of the BR111 and the BR 189.

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    Get more out of Train Simulator Classic with the optional Rail Subscription. The perfect way to get started with the ultimate railway hobby, this includes the base game along with a selection of curated routes and locomotives ready to play. Get started here.

    Train Simulator Classic, the ultimate railway hobby!
     
  2. nwp1

    nwp1 Well-Known Member

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    I have all these releases previously. Have these routes been redone and upgraded to make TSC25 worth purchasing. Perhaps DTG Jamie would elaborate?
     
  3. unionpacificfan

    unionpacificfan Well-Known Member

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    Do I need to reinstall all RSSLO and Virtual Railroad DLC because of this?
     
  4. john#5092

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    Had a look at what's changed and it's just a few files in the games core. Does not affect Assets or Content.
     
  5. synth

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    where are the changelogs?
     
  6. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Well-Known Member

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    No, no need for you to worry about that.

    However, it’s always good to backup your Railworks folder.
     
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  7. frank351981

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    DTG Jamie
    In the article is written:
    "Konstanz and Villingen are connected by more than 90km of scenic inter-city rail. From Konstanz, the line starts off as the Upper Rhine Railway, which has followed the path of the great river since the 1840s. The Upper Rhine Railway stretches all the way from Mannheim down to the Swiss city of Basel, before sharply darting east and following, plus frequently crossing, the German-Swiss border all the way to Konstanz."

    I dont think that this describtion is well fitting, in parts it may be incorrect, at least its misleading. Correct is: The rhine goes from Mannheim down to Basel, then to east to Konstanz and into the Bodensee (engl.: Lake Constance). But this DLC here never reaches this part, it reaches the rhine river only at Konstanz and then has nothing to do with them. When a river, then it would more suitable the Donau (Danube).
    The "Obere Rheintalbahn" (engl.: upper rhine railway) stretches from Mannheim to Basel. Along this way there is the city Offenburg, from where the "Schwarzwaldbahn" (in engl. something like: Black Forest Railway) diverges and goes through the Black Forest down to Singen (by the Deutsche Bahn also named down to Konstanz).
    The part from Basel to Konstanz along the rhine via Waldshut and Singen is called: "Hochrheinbahn" (something like High Rhine Railway if translated word by word). But I am not sure if the translation would be here also Upper Rhine Railway. At least for germans it would be misleading, especially with all that describtions with Mannheim, Basel ... which has nothing do to with this route.

    Perhaps Following describtion would be better fitting:
    "Konstanz and Villingen are connected by more than 90km of scenic regional rail. From Konstanz, the line starts off from Lake Constance to Singen, where we diverge through the southern parts of the Swabian Alps. After following the Danube river the route arrives Villingen at the eastern border of the Black Forest."


    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnstrecke_Mannheim–Basel
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzwaldbahn_(Baden)
     
  8. DTG Jamie

    DTG Jamie Community Manager Staff Member

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    No changes to the routes, they are as they were
     
  9. DTG Jamie

    DTG Jamie Community Manager Staff Member

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    No changes to the core code, game is same as it was in 2024 edition
     
  10. trevkiwi

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    The latest update has changed some of Smokeboxe's coding, particularly the Big Boy. Here are two quotes from Smokebox on the Steam forums.

    "I can confirm that the update to TSC has, for reasons unknown to me, reverted the Smokebox Big Boy file "BBTractiveEffortLinearVSSpeed.dcsv" to the old (incorrect) one. Until the correct file (supplied in August 2024) is put back in place, the Big Boy will be underpowered. I expect this to be fixed quickly. I'm also looking at the other Smokebox DLC to see if I can find anything else that has lost post-release patches."

    "The latest patches I did to the injectors in the Big Boy, Heavy Challenger and FEF-3 have also been (accidentally) undone in the TSC update."
     
  11. mindenjohn

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    One of these statements cannot be correct.
     
  12. Måns Johannesson

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    Yes, they can. Smokebox coding is part of the DLC, not the core coding.
     
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    Did DTG remove the contents of the Railworks folder in Railworks/Install because the folder is empty?
     
  14. mindenjohn

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    But the point is that the coding in the DLC worked before now it doesn't and yet "no changes made"?
     
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    I have an issue since the new screen image appeared in that I have just tried to play Just Trains Wessex Mainline from Salisbury to Southampton Ctl and the signal have disappeared. All you get is the AWS horn and no signal. Also the AI is missing. This was played in Quick Drive mode. Files were verified and the DLC uninstalled and reinstalled. A ticket has been submitted to support. The game played perfectly well before the update to the screen.
     
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  16. trevkiwi

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    I have PhysX in mine.
     
  17. brummie

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    So, I'm not the only one with this same problem as you! I already submitted a ticket to JT and they came back to check various DLC's that rely on this route to work but still have same problem. Is yours the Steam version like mine?
     
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    JT version of Wessex Mainline from Salisbury to Southampton Ctrl in Quick Drive using new ATS Class 166. Signals missing when I reached East Grimstead. AI was present.
     
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  19. Andy L

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    I'm lucky I don't have any missing signals on that route. I wonder if it's because I've got a previous version of the JT CommonLibraryAssets.ap file unzipped? I noticed that when I got the download that updated TSC it included a fresh copy of the JT CommonLibraryAssets.ap which on examination doesn't have as many folders in the CommonLibrary\RailNetwork\Signals folder as does my older unzipped copy which of course the game will be using.
     
  20. kilt46

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    I had plenty of signals at the start of the run. It was in the middle section when they showed on the map but not in the game. I also have the AP signal DLC. Not a route I do often. Hopefully next time I use it the signals magically appear.
     
  21. trevkiwi

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    That route has been causing issues for some people even before the update. I have the route from Steam and have had no problems. I only do the scenarios that come with it.
     
  22. 805 BENBOW

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    Yes. Mine is the Steam Version.
     

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