Route West Coast Main Line: London Euston - Milton Keynes - Feedback

Cheers for the reply.

Yeah, I definitely agree that TV/monitor can make a difference. I do have a pretty new LG C4 though, with a dedicated game mode and LOTS of settings that can be toggled!!

 

Oh its alright, got to help each other out these day. I’ve mentioned the TV/Monitor thing because I had a problem with the TV I’ve used for years a few weeks back which caused me to change sets. A more modern TV and I didn’t like it tbh. Thankfully my old Panasonic was fine and back to using that.

But what I think the main issue could be here is a drop in frame rate to help with game memory, and could be a reason for the errors we see on the new Birmingham Crewe route regarding the issue of layers etc. On older platforms with newer DLCs I’m wondering how bad it actually feels and if freezing or drop in frame rate is one way DTG is trying to get around game memory size.

And hey congrats on the new TV, I do fancy one myself yet I get nervous when thinking how it might affect years of colour matching in LD.
(In LD is where I send most of my time you see)
Any road I’ll give you a shout back at what I experience after playing on the game/route.

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Xbox Series X

I bought the route during the latest sale and have had a few runs up and down. And it runs smoothly for me not had any lag or issues. But equally I have not got the pendolino and a couple of other layers.

Its nice running alongside the Bakerloo line and it seems like there is a fair amount of traffic even without several big layers.

My issue with the route is the 350 is just a bit boring to drive. The brakes are far too powerful and way too forgiving. I just find there's not quite as much to do on this route between stations. The route itself seems well built to my eye although I've only been up the WCML a handful of times.

I did also find a bug that reloading the save game while in the loading cycle does break the doors upon reload. And it tells you to open the doors despite them being open and the cab buttons do nothing. I found the way out to be messing with the guards panel. Which made me late but equally with the 350 physics and braking it was easy to make the time up.

It's a nice route but I'm not sure it's my cup of tea personally. But definitely worth it for the price I paid on sale

 

Hi there just having a quick read of your post. Fair comments and one I’d like to pick up on.

Now I’m on PS5 with most if not all layers for the WCML South. Now the route had no problems until I bought a few extra DLC add on packs. In fact I’d say it all went down hill after the class 86 add on pack purchased. Yet how that would affect another route I’m not quite sure.
So just wanted to add seeing you don’t have many layers. I am not implying that anything said would be a reason for issues some are having including myself with the game crashing. It’s an observation really because the WCML South route was running okay up to the point I added more DLC.

It’s a right pain tho because I still haven’t got to the bottom of it, and admittedly I will say the WCML South must be in good order as I don’t see many users having the same issues of mass crashes. Shame to because I must say that route I did enjoy.
I really eye opener to how complicated the route is to replicate and so appreciated the effort put in by DTG.

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So I do have a fair bit of UK Content just not a few of the layers for WCMLS like the Pendolino and the 710? All in all I have 24 add ons spanning 95.5gb.

I'm not sure how that would affect it though because they were meant to have released an add on loader for the game ages ago when the PS DLC limit was out which would only load DLC when it's used and you load up a route. This is meant to be on all platforms now so it's interesting things went downhill after you purchased another add on?

 

Hey there again, you've mentioned something I wasn’t aware of. Not great with technology ya see. But not sure what the add on loader is or how all that would work for the issue to be possible linked. However I would have to say things did go horribly wrong after the class 86 add on. (edit)
Id have blurry textures, constant small niggles like the wipers stopping or the desk going blurry when focusing in and out.

Other DLC packs I bought around that time was ECML Rail tour pack.
Edinburgh Express Freight pack. The military DLC packs I.

So if I was to choose which DLC caused the most upset for the game then it would have to be the class 86 add on pack.
It’s when I noticed things start going down hill with quality and performance all round. Ie WCML South route crashes on loading in.
As I say tho I wouldn’t have a clue how that could be linked or even technically related even.

It’s a real issue too because I have no confidence buying new DLCs even the Birmingham Crewe that I fancied yet looking at the problem with that route introduction then I’m staying away for now. I personally feel the more I add the worse performance gets.

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A BIT OF A SHOCK!!!. WARNING.

Okay doing a run this morning using a class 66. The route loaded in but still having trouble with crashing passenger services.
The issue isn’t concerning that tho today.

I’ve placed a warning above due to the nature of the event. Anyone that drives trains or any vehicle for that matter who has been affected by real world events similar to the one I’m about to share. Ie Flashbacks.

So there I was chilling listening to the rain and just enjoying being behind the controls for once (I spend hours in LD so nice to get out and about), then I was faced with this at around 73mph. (Track speed for freight 75)


By the time I had reacted I’d already taken a few people out, I then proceeded to document the event for evidence to place here.

Why well I’ve played GTA so no stranger to a scene like this, yet GTA is just funny because it’s that type of game. Morally wrong but still it’s an 18 cert game so yes poo happens on GTA.
Not TSW tho, TSW is a simulator game and it does it very well to be fair. As I say I was relaxing as I always have when in control of a train or large vehicles as I have in the past.

Then suddenly be faced with a scenario where in my mind just for a split second I actually thought I’d hit real people.
I’ve drove most of my life in some very difficult places too, Scotland I’d be using many back roads out in the middle of no where and the fear of hitting any wild animals was always on my mind, yet still had my near misses. A9 was a close one. I won’t go into details but basically what happened this morning has shaken me up. I even feel all sickened like it’s a real event.
Again as a driver I think hitting a pedestrian is any person’s nightmare.

Same weather conditions, but just wasn’t expecting and it’s got to me a little.
I know it’s just a game but the mind works in strange ways sometimes but I know from my own experiences on the road and hearing stories of such real tragedy that can leave deep mental pain. Ie with jumpers as a prime example, yet the event this morning even tho it’s simulator game the emotions raced through.

Why am I going on about this so much, well because I started to think about users that have been in a real life situation as part of their job.
What would be the emotional and mental impact be or response to the scene above. My body’s reaction is a surprise yet have never been behind the controls of a class 66. Luton Van yes but not a locomotive. What about those who do professionally, it’s those people that am I thinking about here.

So if anyone that monitors these feedback threads look into the matter please.
I can provide more route information if needed but I think it would be a wise move to fix not only for DTG sake for a situation to be happening in the game, but for the reason I’ve already stated when it comes to any possible negative effects to those players sensitive to highly emotional situations caused by any real life traumatic event.

It’s your fault DTG!!! You shouldn’t make the game so realistic
I defo pooped my pants.
But seriously could you check it out, not for me but for other players.

Thanks.

Rigsby.
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Improved passenger behaviour this year apparently!!

 

Maybe they’re lost and belong in the apocalyptic world of MR New York.

To be fair to DTG I’ve seen a massive improvement from TSW2020 days.
But wasn’t expecting a scene out of the Death Race 2000 movie or should I say Escape from New York films.

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