Hi, I've just played with ICE3 on Manhem-Kaiserslautern route and it was a beautiful ride. But I've got SPAD just in front of Kaiserslautern. I drove 150 kph and started braking ASAP I've seen yellow vorsignal (maybe 100 m in front of that signal) and I put the brake lever to the "full braking" position. I was able to slow down to 80 kph when I drove around the 500 hz magnet and emergency brakig was activated. Despite all this, I could not stop my train in front of the main "STOP" signal and I've got SPAD. Is there something I did wrong with setting brakes to the "full braking" position? Is there some better way to brake with ICE3?
Passing an active 500Hz magnet at over 65 km/h gives a penalty brake. It is very well possible to make it to a standstill, you just need to start braking as soon as you see the signal at an aspect you wouldn't want to pass without lowered brake pressure.
I know why I've got penalty brake, but althought I have had my brake lever on the "Full brake" when I passed a signal and then "Emergency brake" from 500hz magnet, the train was not able to stop.
Do you have a service number where that happened? From what you say you saw the Vr 0 on the repeater just ahead of entrance signal, but you should have had that information already from the previous distant signal, which is on sufficient brake distance. And probably didn't have, or the 1000 Hz would have shot you down there already. So likely a bug worth reporting.
It was these signals. In reality there is 1000 m between them, so I don't think it is a bug. Maybe there is some problem with DB 406 brakes or I made some mistake. 500 Hz is between the two repeaters. I played HUDless, so I don't know my exact speed at the moment when emergency brake was applied. I will do some test at the end of this week. I think it was a ICE 9554 service (expert timetable).
The approach starts at 37:10: Sure, I had the big advantage that I knew it would come, but it feels like a reasonable brake performance to me, maybe the last brake level is even a little harsher than I would expect on slight downhill. But even if I only started braking when passing the signal, I think I would manage well before the 500 Hz. I believe I do have a soundmod for the 406, but I don't think it touches performance.
Oh thank you very much for this kind of reply. My 406 definitely did not brake so good. Now I don't know what was the weather like during my journey. Maybe some rain few minutes before could do the difference. I will try some scenarios next time.
So, I've made some tests on the test track and it looks like the weather was the culprit. When it is not snowing, it takes approx 40 seconds to brake from 150 kph to 0 kph (20 sec from 150 to 80) when the brake lever is set on the "full braking". When it is snowing, it takes approx 58 seconds to brake from 150 to 0 (28 sec from 150 to 80). Sanding (all wheels) did not do a big difference. So I think it started snowing a moment before I needed to brake. I started a timer everytime in the moment when I move a brake lever.
If I may chime in real quick, I did a test at the worst snowy windy weather in december and set the stop point at the last signal before the track area infront the station. The distant signal starts becoming visible in the video a couple seconds after I started pulling the brake handle (thank you, YouTube bitrate), but I already saw the red/orange-ish lights in-game at that moment. Nevertheless, considering the good braking power seen in the video I would've also made it if I had started braking a bit later. As you might be able to guess, sanding plays a big role in railways.
I don't have a lot of trust in early ingame models having some proper adhesion dynamics, but yeah, in bad weather, you would basically hold the sander during the whole braking except when passing over magnets and other railway equipment. Driving at 140+ km/h always puts you at the edge of the required braking power within the standard braking distance, so whenever you may expect an adverse signal, be already off throttle, have hand on brakes and focus on looking into distance to see it as early as possible. Approaching a station with planned stop is definitely a main suspect to have some sort of speed limit on entrance, but also approaching any other larger station, or a block signal before a longer length block can show a restrictive aspect even for high priority train. As always a good example at 06:50
