Northern Pack Idea

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  1. trainfanuk#8324

    trainfanuk#8324 New Member

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    A new pack should include the northern class 319, 195, 150/1 and 150/2, and the 156.
     
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  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Each of those will need a route to run on for starters.
     
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  3. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    What routes would count as "Northern" in this context?
    Is this a geographical reference, or an actual train line with liveries, like Cross Country or Midland?

    (To be clear I'm agreeing with you, this is directed at the original poster)
     
  4. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Well-Known Member

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    I made a thread a long while back about a diesel legends northern pack with the 195, 150/1 & 156. Feel like it would be nice to have a northern rail route with new northern rail stock in the game as the 323 is repetitive and it bores me out.

    id like to see a 195 definitely with its ZF Ecolife transmission and acceleration!
     
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    eMAyTeeTee Well-Known Member

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    Is there actually a route for it to run on though?
     
  6. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Leeds to York would do for a 195.

    A 156 would be at home around the Carlisle area.

    150/1s probably Sheffield.
     
  7. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    Which routes in game though?
     
  8. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Well, whatever route can come from those areas obviously.
     
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  9. trainsimuser

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    To answer your question you asked

    none currently
     
  10. trainfan#6965

    trainfan#6965 Well-Known Member

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    Needs more detail

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  11. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    Well that could be problematic if there's no rails for them to run on.
     
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    Pretty sure the OP means the rail operator of that name.

    In theory you could do a pacer/sprinter timetable for NTP, and maybe one for TVL too? But a suggestion that's more guessing game than solid suggestions isn't going to get anywhere.
     
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  14. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'd need to see what trains in what livery for what routes to make it a serious proposal.

    trainfanuk#8324
    Is the goal to make it sort of like the XC 170 pack?
     
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    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    I think that there is no chance that a pack would be made that contained 4 totally new types of traction.
    Most routes don't come with any new traction, some have one, some have one plus another at a cost and very rarely there's two.
     
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    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    Are the 150 and 153 "new" or just new liveries?
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The 150/2 we already have, albeit needing a few cosmetic changes into its Northern counterpart. So technically only three new trains needed.

    Although saying that, the 150/1 is also similar to the /2, the main difference being no gangway door at either end. So that means only really two new trains needed.
     
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    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    Isn't the 153 already there for Cardiff in a different livery?
     
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    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    It would still take quite a bit of modelling to make a 150/1, you have the interior detail, the different cab layout, all of which would require new scripting which takes up a lot of time.

    156, 195 and 319 adds up to more than 2 new classes of traction. Hence why I think this idea is highly unlikely. It would cost at least £50 for all the work needed. Building routes is currently quicker than making traction, that's why we rarely see more than 1 new type of traction with a standard route release.
     
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    Yea the 150/1 cabs are noticeably different to the /2. Main difference from what I’ve seen is the gangway and the back fuse panel. I work on 150’s at my depot and we get a good bunch. IMG_0773.jpeg
     
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    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTE="Wivenswold, post: 1068543, member: 4727"Building routes is currently quicker than making traction, that's why we rarely see more than 1 new type of traction with a standard route release.[/QUOTE]

    And the above limitation on the introduction of new rolling stock is why TSW fans who have areas or eras that they prefer get despondent and go a bit unhinged in these forums when the annual Dovetail Live has no releases that nudges the game towards their favourite area or era. Because some areas of Britain have unique traction and nearly all releases are only based in the very modern era (last 5 years) or are around the middle of the WCML area in the North West, sometimes both.

    And yes, I'm one of those who got unhinged in August.
     
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