Wcmls: 805, 90 And All The Rest

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  1. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Well-Known Member

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    So we know that the awc 805 will be coming soon, and the 90 looks like it’s not majorly far behind. But my concern is that because there’s multiple third parties making contributions to the route, will there be potentially 3 different timetables? My biggest concern is that the 90 will not layer onto the 805 timetable, and vice versa if the 90 comes with its own timetable, I don’t believe that’s been confirmed yet though. It’s the same issue with the expert 101, and I think the coordination between third party dlc could be better so that we can get more out of add ons
     
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  2. trainsimuser

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    The multiple timetables annoy me
    Personally why they can’t just have one timetable and add to that is beyond me.
     
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  3. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    It's their product, their choice.

    Also, from what I've gathered by a few posts somewhere on here, they (the ones developing the 90 and the 805) don't exactly get along.
     
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  4. CK95

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    It’s just another example of how disjointed TSW is.

    Multiple timetables can just go on the list with all the other things that there a multiple versions of purely because devs either can’t or aren’t allowed to figure out the technical gremlins behind having one modular framework.

    Half the reason TSW is in the state that it’s in is because the publishing approach is to just throw everything into a box rather than neatly integrating content.

    The 90 in theory can substitute into most WCML freight runs, however given ATS made a mess with the 66 & now we just randomly have a separate version of that (separate to the already messy 66 selection), I suspect substitution won’t be happening.

    Separate timetables do make sense with things like the 2019 TFW pacer pack & 2025 WCML though. It’s just going to take AAS setting it up for the various packs, though that in itself is likely a nightmare as third parties are seemingly struggling to play nice together in that regard.
     
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  5. Gianluca

    Gianluca Well-Known Member

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    Probably the first route whit 4/5 timetables:cool:
     
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  6. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Where DTG need to get a grip, if need be bang a few heads together and tell the 3P’s you will work together or forget about us publishing your content. It’s not as if TSW is like TSC where 3P’s can publish what they like, where they like. DTG are supposed to be keeping a tight oversight on things.
     
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  7. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Well-Known Member

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    Precisely this. The third parties need to get their act together for the sake of the playerbase
     
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  8. SierraOscar95

    SierraOscar95 Well-Known Member

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    One would hope that AAS have worked with ATS to implement the Class 90 timetable within their upcoming one. It would make the most logical sense.
     
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  9. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Well-Known Member

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    I highly doubt one company would work with another who took a subtle but funny dig at them :D
     
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  10. roysto25

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    Think about timetables before you complain about multiple versions. How would you use a timetable which is set in the modern era and is mixed with who knows what rolling stock from earlier times, or using a version of the stock which is materially different from current versions. Then there is (especially in the UK) the bizarre circus of ever-changing operators and liveries and changes over time to the track/station layout. It seems to me that layer toggling aleviates that issue. One question occurs to me though - does TSW pre-load all the timetable versions, because that certainly could be a potential problem.
     
  11. Disintegration7

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    100% agree!

    It's already bad and getting worse with each release, and it seems like especially the veteran TSC devs who are used to being king of the castle can't deal with being (in a small way) part of a bigger organization. The completely new devs don't seem to share the same parochial attitudes thank goodness.

    I frankly have no sympathy for them engaging in anti-consumer nonsense like we've seen wrt Cargo Line timetables on Shap, and the ATS/AABS beef.

    A 3rd-party can go create their own train game, or publish it for free as a mod if they don't want to play nicely.
     
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