Thank You Cactusjuice!

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  1. Princess Entrapta

    Princess Entrapta Well-Known Member

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    That's fine, though. He doesn't owe us anything.
     
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  2. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    I was having a poke at DTG, not Brandon!
     
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  3. jesper2805

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    It was to be expected that his messages are now being monitored by DTG. It’s simply not smart of him. Brandon is probably very nice (I don’t know him personally), but you just shouldn’t do this. And then DTG steps in, and my reaction is indeed perceived exactly as I wrote before.
     
  4. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Well-Known Member

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    As he should. Dovetail have made a huge mess on all fronts over the last couple of years and this is another consequence of their incompetence
     
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  5. Princess Entrapta

    Princess Entrapta Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I didn't take you as meaning that at all, I was merely pointing out that we all needn't expect any responses from him, so the fact he's limited in his ability to should be irrelevant.
     
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  6. Princess Entrapta

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    What's not smart of him?

    He's actively avoided talking about it here. He made his statement elsewhere, and when people have taken it upon themselves to discuss it here, he's kept out of the drama and actively said he doesn't want to stir the pot, and that's why he has not commented on it. He's been nothing but professional, in the circumstances.
     
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  7. jesper2805

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    It doesn’t matter he posts things on the internet wherever he wants, and it clearly leaks out. It wasn’t on a private company location but in public. If I were to pull something like that with my loyal employer, I’d be out the door within a few hours. I fear that might be the case for him as well. I honestly hope not, because he’s very good at his job, but openly throwing your employer under the bus is simply not okay. No matter where he posts it, the point remains the same.
     
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  8. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    Why on earth are you siding with DTG on this? Brandon is in the right, plain and simple.
     
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  9. Princess Entrapta

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    I mean, he literally said he's quitting, and this is his last job, so... Not really relevant.


    What, is it gonna hurt his chances of future employment with the other big competitor in the realistic train simulation market?
     
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  10. Princess Entrapta

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    I mean, there's not even a need to take a side.

    He's clearly burnt out from the workload when it comes to a major load-bearing part of northeastern US route design. DTG want to keep delivering such routes, obviously, they clearly are a major seller, but that's not compatible with him continuing to contribute as much as he is doing so. If DTG want to keep making them, then I hope they took note and had people training based on what he was doing. If they didn't, we'll see as soon as future routes come along. It is what it is.
     
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  11. cActUsjUiCe

    cActUsjUiCe Developer

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    DTG isn't my employer. I am a contractor performing a specific function on a project. I get no benefits such as health insurance, retirement plan, etc.

    I talked about this after everything transpired, not before.
     
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  12. jesper2805

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    Sorry, what is it that legitimizes doing that? Nothing, right?

    For me this whole story is closed its okay you have choose for it and its DTG that will take action if needed.
     
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    What blackmail do DTG have against you.
     
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  14. f__s_cw

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    What don’t you get. He owes dtg nothing and quite frankly, having understood the situation I’m surprised he’s even sticking around for Stamford
     
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  15. coursetim

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    If I was putting in more work in terms of quality, passion, care and attention and was being treated the same then I would.

    People who are good at their jobs and have a passion for what they do are the most important people in every industry. Look at TSG, JT, DTG Liam, Joes work, Adam at SHG, its not by chance these people stick out as gold to the community. And Brandon is the same.

    Respect is also a street that goes both ways between management and the people below.
     
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    “Openly throwing your employer under the bus” is objectively a good thing when said employer treats their employees (or in this case contractors) like LOVE. Remember the ATS scandal from last year? I doubt it’s as bad as that, but no employee should feel obliged to back up a company that has mistreated them - and why Jesper is so hell bent on defending DTG is beyond reason.
     
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  17. solicitr

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    Indeed, it's the fact that only a minority of the devs at DTG it appears (Joe, Liam, formerly Adam) are willing to invest this kind of passion - which equals time - into their projects (something which seems to be standard at the better third parties like TSG and Just Trains), that probably underlies the continual corner-cutting we see in DTG routes since around, roughly, 2022.* So much so that they can't be arsed to vary a bloody livery to make it appropriate!

    "Too much time!" Then work longer. Software development is not and has never been a 9 to 5 job, any more than any other profession. Clock-watchers are not professionals. When I was in practice, I'm pretty sure the only week I ever worked just forty hours was the three-day Thanksgiving week.

    So I don't blame Brandon for getting fed up.

    *Early symptoms were the omission of the third track from Sherman Hill, and not originating Peak Forest at Derby which of course it should have.
     
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  18. solicitr

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    DTG is not and has never been Brandon's employer. They are a client, that's all.
     
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  19. PrimeMoverSimulator

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    1. It's the fact that he did not post his comments on the internet as you boldly assumed.
    2. His comments were posted in a Discord server that isn't even run by DTG admin to begin with, rather by community members who play TSW.

    Yes other people that were from that Discord did share it on the forums here, but Brandon himself didn't even post anything on the forums itself that would've necessitated a moderation hold (which has since been lifted), so it comes across as incredibly cowardly on DTG's part.

    Again, Brandon did not "pull" anything as you assumed so, he was speaking out against how DTG treated him in a Discord server run by community members and not DTG themselves, and in a way where he was not throwing names specifically OR being demeaning towards anyone working at DTG. And again, as mentioned previously he is a contractor, not a full time employee. Contractor work, and employer work are far different than what you are assuming so.

    Yes, companies have the power to silence and moderate others if employer is being thrown under the bus by one of their former employers. But again, Brandon's comments did not justify doing so. Just because a company can, does not mean they should. Therefore, we as the consumers of said company are allowed to speak up and protest. And once again, as I have stated multiple times in my post, Contractor ≠ Employee.
     
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  20. trainsimuser

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    You said you were done on the matter a few posts ago why are you still citing an argument then. If you said something is done then leave it at that and stop trying to cause an argument.
     
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  21. AtherianKing2

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    not if it was a good employer no that wouldn’t be good, otherwise… why should someone be silent or in any way benefit a bad employer. What’s their to hide from the truth… no employee or otherwise person associated with a business should stay silent to protect a bad employers reputation, they should be free to talk about their experience.
     
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