Route Birmingham - Crewe Feedback Thread

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  1. iriv#7314

    iriv#7314 Well-Known Member

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    service 1O28 with the voyager has an AI spad too
     
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  2. IvyJoanTurner

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    I do but it was crashing like this before I installed that, I have tried it with no mods, something is loading in around a mile outside of smethwick rolfe st on approach from bhm direction towards crewe, the strangest thing is its fine in the other direction

    Edit: Just removed all the WCML:P2C 2019 paks just to double check and it still crashes exact same spot right before smethwick rolfe st. Also removed the branding pack for B2C and still the crash.

    I just ran Birmingham to Wolves with the TFW153 and no crash or frame drop near Smethwick Rolfe Street. It is really weird how its only happening in all the 350s only.
     
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  3. Sharon E

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    IvyJoanTurner, my UE crashes with the 350 are at the exact same place as yours, but with all my mods uninstalled, I ran a 350 service with out the crashing. I am going to run one today with all mods, except the files related to the new C2P tt and see what happens.
    I have now run 2 350 services without the UE crash, 2W12, 350/2 and 9F34 350/3. My thoughts are that the 350 pak file (TpE) in the new tt set is conflicting with the 350s here.
     
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  4. IvyJoanTurner

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    I removed all files to to do with the WCML:C2P, the timetable, the route, the trains, all of them. No luck. I have tried with no mods, same issuse. I am glad it worked for you but not for me unfortunately which is odd
     
  5. Sharon E

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    IvyJoanTurner, yes it is very odd. Your system is very similar to mine. The same processor, I have a NVidia 4090 for video as opposed to your Radeon card. I am running Windows 11 latest build, 64 GB of installed ram. Today I plan to put the C2P 2019 files back in except the 350 one and see what happens.
     
  6. IvyJoanTurner

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    So update to this, I cleared shader caches for steam, directx and amd and tried with no mods and it worked, I then tried removing half my mods and it crashed, so I narrowed it further and it appears to be godmode unfortunately, even after removing it the game stopped working until I cleared the shader caches again and then ran it with all my other mods but left out godmode so I think I've found the culprit in my case.

    It is unfortunate because godmode is one of those mods that I simply cannot do without given the FOV ability it gives you. I will make a note of it on the mod page on TSC
     
  7. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    IvyJoanTurner, I just checked and I am running version 0-6-1 of God Mode. I am not having the problem when its installed.
     
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    That's probably because 0.6.1 doesn't include B2C. I̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶s̶e̶n̶d̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶a̶k̶ ̶f̶i̶l̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶r̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶r̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶l̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶B̶2̶C̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶c̶r̶a̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶.̶
     
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  10. OldVern

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    9Y14 in Journey Mode.
    Had to delete a stuck train in the platform at Wolverhampton to clear two trains (1G35 and an XC service) that were also stuck outside ahead of me.
     
  11. FallenAngel00me

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    Since last update, I did a 350 run from Birmingham to Crewe.

    It did blur around Smethwick, but not as much when not zoomed in. Still work to be done though.
     
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  12. IvyJoanTurner

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    Yep I just did one and it seems to have fixed my crashing as well, still poor fps wise around Smethwick Rolfe Street though. But only in the 350, dont ask me why lol


    Scratch that, it's crashing again, I think it's gotta be performance related but it's odd it only happens in 350s, hopefully the route can be further optimised especially around Smethwick Rolfe Street
     
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  13. FallenAngel00me

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    Before the patch, I did a 220 service and everything was blurry minus the train. Did one after and nothing blurred. It does seem to be 350 related.
     
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  14. Kezz

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    Are you crashing with mods installed?
     
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    Yes and no, I am sometimes crashing with godmode installed, this mod comes with its own ini files that vary per route, if I drop the settings in the B2C ini far below par for other routes such as Riviera and Morristown then there is no crash at Smethwick Rolfe Street however performance wise it is still very poor fps. If I play with no godmode (or any other mods) then performance is still poor with poor fps but also no crashes. I have started reducing the settings before smethwick and upping them again after, which stops the crashing at SRS but still gives poor FPS even without other mods, and even without mods at all.

    The higher settings work at Crewe and BHM which are by far more complex parts of the route, Smethwick Rolfe Street is just a problem area for some reason, I imagine it's some kind of texture loading issue, the 350's seem to be texture heavy since it is only crashing with those trains, on consoles the 350s are also more blurry than other trains especially around Smethwick Rolfe Street.

    Thats why I say it's not a mod issue, it's an optimisation issue with the 350's and especially the area around SRS
     
  16. Kezz

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    We are looking at further optimisations at present, the team is exploring multiple avenues including the trains themselves. No crashes have been reported after previous patches so can only assume the ini tweaks are what are leading to potential crashes in this case however hopefully we can provide more news soon regarding further optimisations.
     
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  17. Sharon E

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    Kezz, I have had the UE crashes at Smethwick Rolfe Street, but for me it was the 2019 tt mod and the associated files related to P2C. I have removed them and the route runs fine. I also have good fps rates. As others have said, it seems to be 350 related and I feel it's the 350 TpE pak file in the tt mod noted. My system is very similar to IvyJoanTurner, I just have the Nvidia 4090 card and twice as much RAM. I run with God Mode and the weather ini files in it and do not seem to have any problems now. I have run 2 different 350 services, 2w12 and 9f34, without UE crashes at Smethwick Rolfe Street.
     
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  18. IvyJoanTurner

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    See I can run the route fine (apart from poor fps near SRS) when I have this P2C mod installed no crashing even with the TPE350

    In our case its probably the ram or graphics memory difference but idk. Either way the performance is still poor for me around SRS even with no mods. It is about the same with the godmode ini lowered settings. But hey ho, at least its not crashing anymore. Glad the devs are looking into further optimisations :)
     
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  19. OldVern

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    Further to 9Y14, further red light jam approaching New Street with trains stood out to beyond Soho with a stuck train on P1 or P2. Had to delete three or four trains to remove the tangle and free up the path to finish my run.
     
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