Route Stuttgart - Heilbronn Feedback Thread

I've noticed that that Heilbronn track 851 don’t have OHLE. Bit of a problem with service 68203/68268, that end and start with a single 140 loco. I don’t know if there are other services.

Also did a small test with the 218 and WiKo. I was able to get traction, but couldn’t turn train power on/off, or start/stop the engine.
But the door control works fine

 

In the Wittenberger cab:
Is the OHLE voltage indicator supposed to do this?
When I don't apply traction power, the indicator is at around 15 kV. When I do apply some, the indicator goes down to 0 first, and then starts to rise corresponding to the "gear" step I'm in. On full throttle (with a 111 pushing that's step 27), the indicator is close to the 20 kV maximum.
This is at step 11:


Edit: This happens both on Stuttgart-Heilbronn with the new 111 at the back, as well as Frankfurt-Fulda with the 111 from that route attached.

 

DB BR 423
S5 4558 Empty train depot – shunting at Stuttgart Hbf is a disaster. From the start, I have HP 0 with Zs 1 (sometimes without Zs 1) in the hub. The monitor shows all signals green. After asking the dispatcher, I'm allowed to pass the signal, so I press "Command 40" and pass these signals. I proceed at sight, maximum speed 40 km/h, until the next stop signal. Before Ludwigsburg, I saw on the map that the next train, S5 4569, was close behind me. I played along until Ludwigsburg. Then I'd had enough and quit. This can't be right.
S5 4558 Leerzug Betriebwerk – Rangieren Stuttgart Hbf ist eine Katastrophe. Von Beginn an habe ich HP 0 mit Zs 1 (manchmal auch ohne Zs 1) im Hub Stecken Monitor zeigen alle Signale eine grün an. Nach Anfrage an den Fahrdienstleiter darf ich das Signal passieren, also drücke „Befehl 40“ und passiere ich diese Signale. Ich fahr auf Sicht VMax 40 km/h bis zum nächsten haltezeigendes Signal. Vor Ludwigsburg sah ich auf der Karte, dass der nächste Zug S5 4569 dicht hinter mir ist. Bis Ludwigsburg habe ich dieses Spiel mit gemacht. Dann hatte genug und brach das Spiel ab. Das kann doch nicht sein.

 

I definitely saw that happening before, I think in kako. Never fixed. Wiko is just a really bad copy-paste with a different panel.

 

I already wrote somewhere that this behavior of that gauge is prototypical. When no power is applied it shows the kV of the pushing loco, if power is applied it shows average motor voltage of the pushing loco.

But yeah, it's a copy and paste bug, what else...

 

OK, I didn't know that, thanks! Gotta pay more attention to that thing

 

which loco isn’t working? I have used the cab car and the BR140 and the TSC-X is working fine.

i agree about the expert 101 though. It would be fantastic is they updated it to work with controllers.

 

I couldn’t get the BR140, new cabcar, or the BR111 to work. Buttons worked but no levers. I could move the levers with the keyboard. I did a run on the San Bernadino - LA route after without issues.

 

Was an update pushed for Stuttgart-Heilbronn? Because I'm playing on PS5 and i never had blurry texture or a crash after nearly 6hours on this route. I really like it especially the 110 NZ service. Bugs I found were already mentioned in this forum so I won't mention them twice but besides this few bugs. Nice route

With the crashes and blurry texture, I know maybe my claims aren't that high but for Dovtail relationships this isn't bad, I would say (I have all layers active)

 

Apologies, I decided to buy the route again and the Raildriver support is in fact working now. I’m not sure why it wasn’t the first time around (might have been a mod conflict) but I withdraw my comments about Raildriver not working.

 

excellent news. Now we just need them to fix the 101 expert and cabcar (the default red expert 101 works, but none of the others do - strange)

 

I found some are visual bugs:

Around 7 Km before Heilbron the 130[Km/h] sign is missing.

Incorrect switch at Ludwigburg


Floating overhead wire holder near Ludwigburg


Weird and missing overhead wire at Stutgart S-bahn

 

PS5 Pro
I don't have Mannheim installed, so the MKN layer is not active.
When departing from Stuttgart Hbf, the cockpit of the WiKo(BR483) is blurred in the Stuttgart Depot - S-Nord section.

 

You could use this controller utility app to map a fully custom config onto the locomotive
https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...-or-analog-controller-no-rail-driver-required

This would also work for the BR101 expert

 

One small thing I noticed, more of an oddity than an actual bug:
The station of Lauffen is named Lauffen (Neckar) on station signs and in the timetable. The on-board announcements call it Lauffen (Württemberg) instead.
Not much of an issue, stuff like that happens in real life too. Just wanted to mention it

 

Track 5 in Bietigheim-Bissingen has track speed set to 25, but signals allow departure at 80 km/h.

 

So far liking this route. Loving the new Steurwagen too. Great to have a route with lots of twists and turns in it too. Here is my feedback so far...

• Signal at stuttgart with white light needing acknowledge. Are these not meant to be signals not in use?
• E-break in steurwagen shows power instead of break on the in cab dials - only happened in scenarios.
• Millennium scenario - can’t turn on tail lights on 111.
• Millennium scenario - break guage “haupuftbehälter” is too low.
• Steurwagen throttle - putting to off doesn’t cut power like in 111. (Only in scenario)
• Can only use taps, not the “power” half of the throttle controller (only in scenario)
• 140 starts in wrong PZB mode.
• PZB controls only work when pushed up and not down.
• Steurwagen - T lights up before doors have closed.
• Cant't see any 500hertz magnets. Does this era/route have them?
• Signal A273 showing a red, on the live map is shows green. Causes PZB emergency stop once passed.

 

The issue with the cab 2 wipers on the 140 seem to be related with the right wiper keeping the left window clear of water and vice versa, it seems the current workaround right now is to turn on the left wiper.

 

(PC, Timetable) There are invisible walls you can't get through when shunting and changing direction of the train. The first one is in Bietigheim-Bissingen in the S-Bahn sidings were you change the direction to go back to Stuttgart. The second one is in Heilbronn just there where you also change direction when you are shunting with the SE services.

 

The br110 have the same issue, is the script its copyed over?

 

Thanks padruig , you post reads like a nightmare to me. Sad we have those issues on new routes after all that years and Iterations of the game :-(

 

Maik already mentioned this happens when there's a 111 from another DLC is being coupled with the Wittenberger cab. Perhaps the scenario doesn't use the Stuttgart one? Either way, the problem is known and being worked on.

I noticed that too, it steps the power back gradually instead. This also happens in the timetable, not just in scenarios. Not quite sure if that's prototypical or an issue.

That might depend on which coaches are in the consist. I noticed that the T (traction) indicator comes up immediately if it's a pure n-Wagen consist, since their doors close quite enthusiastic. If there are Dostos included, the T indicator will take some more time to light up, since the Dosto doors close slower.

Not all of them are missing, but a lot are... I just did a test run from Stuttgart to Heilbronn to confirm this, and in this direction, about 50% of the signals don't have a 500Hz magnet. Don't know if it's the same in the opposite direction, but should definitely be looked into.

 

Main purpose of 500 Hz is to stop trains starting from platform against red as there may be only short distance to junctions and potential path intrusion, so especially on block signals they may be omitted. If you acknowledged and obeyed 1000 Hz on Vr 0, it's expected that you are taking action to stop at the block signal already.

 

These Zs signals apply 30 km/h limit, but don't show anything.


There is a bunch of "4" signs floating across platform 6 in Stuttgart.

 

When driving the BR423 from frankfurt fulda, it is coupled too the BR423 from frankfurt S-bahn, than braking is almost impossible, the rear unit isn't braking at all. The different versions won't work together.

 

In Bietigheim-Bissingen, between tracks 3 and 4, there is an invisible rectangle that prevents the collection of the collectible (toy car).
In Bietigheim-Bissingen zwischen Gleis 3 und 4 gibt es eine unsichtbare rechteck, dass verindert das Sammelstück (Spielzeugauto) einzusammeln.

 

I hope they can fix these issues as I am enjoying the route! Especially the services using the 218, did a bunch of the night train services too using the 110 and the G6 shunter. Again, this has potential to be an amazing route, if they get the fixes in place.

 

I played a scenario in Stuttgart today, but halfway through my train journey, I lost interest again.
At 4 p.m., it's almost pitch dark in TSW, but I continued playing until I reached Heilbronn.

There, I had to uncouple my 19 carriages and move them closer to other carriages. However, the entire track area where the freight carriages are located was pitch dark, and you could only see the carriages about 5 metres in front of you.
And then it was 4:24 p.m.!

It can't be that all the track areas are unlit, because then no shunting worker or shunting locomotive driver could really do their job.

It would be nice if the freight car tracks were also lit.

 

What month was it played in cause im pretty sure in the winter months it probably is dark then. Im not from Germany but the UK and come 4pm its pitch black almost.

 

Every yard and basically every station where such operations happen has floodlights so exactly that does not happen.

 

For me, on the SE service (19832) Stuttgart - Heilbronn, signal A273 (1.7 km from Bietigheim Bissingen when travelling from Stuttgart) is red (even without taking into account the random behaviour of signal delays), whereas on the interactive map and the HUD, it is green, and I can even release the PZB. Do you have the same problem? Thanks in advance to everyone who replies . Moreover, the train behind me haves the green signal.

 

Well, I am from Germany near latitude Stuttgart and no: at this time its not pitch black. When then from around 5 p.m.

 

The 111 starts with the battery switch set to "off" in this scenario. Once you activate the battery the lights come on.
Both the WiKo and the 111 start in KWS mode in this scenario, so my best guess is that mode doesn't allow for Z-Steuerung in the game.
Tried putting both ends to ZWS mode, but that screwed up everything even more.
It's also in scenarios where I've encountered the e-brake dial bug the first time.

Also speaking of scenarios, it seems to me that KaKo cab cars are only used in scenarios at the moment, never seen one in timetable mode and the route comes with its own version of it.
Might be related to the bug that the Devs got rid off last minute where the KaKo was displayed first on the selection screen. They may have put in incorrect substitution values so only the WiKo spawns as AI.

 

Took a day (3) plunge, enjoyed it at first but getting really bad FPS when facing the Sidings from Stuttgart HbF, even when dropping settings to lowest and disabling all mods its still pretty poor.

AMD Ryzen 5800x
RTX3080
32GB RAM

Maybe my machine showing its age?

 

There actually are lights in that yard in game, but they are turned on later than when it becomes completely dark.
I took my time doing that scenario, and when I was slowly crawling through darkness to the last objective lights have suddenly turned on and I could see again. Lights were turned on somewhere after 17:00, while it gets dark at 16:20.

Basically, right now it either gets dark too early, or lights come on too late.

P.S. I might be wrong, but it seems that there are no actual physical model for floodlights in that yard, but light is still emitted from somewhere.