Loco Avanti West Coast Class 805 Add-on Feedback Thread

Why are these the only train that doesn't have the color yellow at both ends of it.

 

As far as I understand it, the yellow front rule got relaxed slightly so that if the headlights are above a certain brightness the yellow front isn't needed.

I don't think TPE and Hull Trains 802s, Lumo 803s or EMR 810s have yellow fronts either

 

Ok thanks

 

AWC, EMR, TPE, Hull Trains, and Lumo variants

 

PS5
Cannot complete timetable services running the 805 on WCML South into Euston. It says "lock doors" forever even after they are locked..

 

If you arrive earlier then scheduled time you will have to wait until the correct time for it to complete.

 

OK, cool. I will try that. Can't recall being too early though.

 

Why does the 805 tell you to do a power change over at Crewe? I know irl you’d be on the DC heading up to Chester, but the game route doesn’t go that far.
Crewe to Liverpool Lime Street (2025 modern) in a future planned route by AAB after MK to Crewe, maybe?

 

Must be the 805 ever since I bought it keeps saying out of video memory etc but when I tried it with voyager nothing until I got to crewe then that again

 

Me too at Crewe everytime I shut the doors ctd.

 

Added gameplay feature I think-

 

I think they may have added the dwell time that Wolves to Walsall services get at New Street. Services normally arrive at 15 and 45 past the hour then depart at 00 and 30 past the hour

 

On the 805 timetable how come the 350s dont do the 20min runs from Crewe to Stafford anymore. Thanks

 

Just had a couple of runs (PC/Steam) - I did the Edinburgh scenario on WCMLS and a random service (1D86 @ 1322 Stafford-Crewe) on Bham-Crewe. Loved them both! The 805 is a lively, fun, responsive drive - great forward visibility compared to the Pendolino, excellent sounds (to my admittedly untutored ear)... as a die hard BR Blue fan I'm slowly coming to enjoy today's "it's just another MU" traction, so for me the 805 and new timetables are a complete win

 

Why can't I find the class 805 in livery designer on xbox I can drive

 

Nice thought, but it does not work. On the service, 1B34, I mentioned earlier, waiting makes no difference in having the service complete. I waited until the listed arrival time and a little more and it still would not complete and go to review screen.

 

Is that job in the journey if so what chapter and i will have go at let you know how I get on. Are sure thats the right job number cause I cant find that job on any route on xbox.

 

dal#7945 It is a tt service, 1B34, on Euston to M-K not a journey. Starts in M-K with one stop at Watford Junction. Considering what I have seen before in TSW, this is usually caused by that service, when written, to not have the complete service box checked in the editor. I am going to run another service today to see if it is an isolated thing.

 

Sharon E would you mind put a pic of the service number because I cannot find that job number in tt mode or anywhere else. Are you playing on pc if so is there a chance you have more jobs then consoles have.

 

As you request.

 

Sharon E Thank you I do not have that job . I only asked for picture to see the times. Hope i didn't offend you if so sorry.

 

PC steam no mods 1D80 05.30 Birmingham to Holyhead.Train faults enabled.Dynamic weather off.All layers on.
Regarding pantograph fault ,pan back up no power.Tried several times then;
Switched over to Diesel and continued into Stafford.
Pulled into station and successfully switched back to electric.Acceleration out of Stafford appears to stay in diesel performance rather than the more sprightly electric power.
A possible issue?Or is the 805 just sluggish on any incline?
If I'm at fault; could someone familiar with the 805 point me in correct procedures for pan down fault.
Thanks
Just ran the 805 from Milton Keynes and it's clearly better to 110 mph in electric mode.

 

DTG Harry Hi every job i try to start from Euston before I even get to screen where you are in the cab. It just crashes with out of video memory this on xbox series x. This is total unacceptable and very frustrating because the same thing is happening at crewe station. Please tell me there is a fix coming for this . Im sorry being blunt but im getting tired of this now.

 

Good Lord no dal#7945, no offence taken. You were right after all, I just did not wait long enough, which turned out to be 2 minutes past scheduled arrival time. I just ran 1R02 and I arrived about 2 minutes early and had to wait 2 minutes past scheduled arrival that time for it to complete. What I would fault here is not having the message in the HuD say wait instead of Lock Doors.
I will add, this 805 is a dream to drive with the Rail Driver. The controls are spot on even without having to do an initial calibration.
Comment has been made already about the tt year. It has been noted from the beginning as being in 2025, but it is actually 2024. Now this does not really make much difference unless you are on pc using the Route Annotation app, so this throws your weather off by a year.

 

I agree with you on that i cant even get into the jobs . It just crashes every time I try.

 

I just found that there is only 2 Avanti West Coast Liverpool bound services in 2025 timetables. Do most of them just skip MK, Stafford and Crewe?

(If possible, may be nice to have a modern WCML route merge to include AWC services like these that skip MK at least!)

 

Loading into 1D89 crashes whilst loading.
Xbox Series S

 

Someone else has mentioned it, but the B2C timetable has no Crewe to Euston services. Either playable or as AI. Not sure why these aren't there, unless they have been assigned to the as yet to be released 350/4 layer?

Still got some of the same old weird 350 PIS issues just saying LNR and London Euston instead of just Euston.

 

Where is that staring from.

 

Yes that could be why and the PIS glitch I have mentioned for a while. As a suggestion now, as I thought this would have came with release, it would be nice to have the 350/1 updated to have announcements, lighter green PIS colour and updated textures/colour.

 

When loading into the service, after about 10 secs it crashes.

 

Is that starting from euston

 

Plus, I wouldn't have expected all the Euston to Crewe services to be ran by just 350/4s. On EMK there is those services for 1s 2s and 3s. Seems to be the only services that should be ran over the 2 routes yet isn't on the Birmingham Crewe Timetable?

 

Yes, it is a Euston to Holyhead service.

 

I have tried about 8 jobs now going from Euston and every one them crashes before I even get to the screen where you are in the cab. And im on xbox series x.

 

I have done one from Euston which was 9G32 to Birmingham New Street

 

Spawned on Birmingham Crewe and opened up the live map and there were no service to Euston with a 1U headcode so I'm 99.9% sure that there is no LNWR Crewe to Euston services either playable or AI (I hope not for long)

 

I just realized that I have 2 separate tts for the 2025 with the 805. They are very different in services offered for the 805.
dal#7945, now I realize your confusion on finding the 1B34, it is not on the selection with the most services but the one with only a few.

 

Ok xbox I just the one tt for 805. And it has 27 jobs in it.

 

One of those will be Fawx's WCML Enhanced TT, for whatever reason this update also renames that modded timetable

 

Just noticed a bug on EMK that some 350s have their gangway doors open at Euston and whilst running.
Xbox Series S

 

Who programmed this timetable?!? Why oh why, when my departure time is (for example) 11:00, does ANOTHER load passengers step start at 11:00. So if I've closed my doors ready for an on-time departure at 11:00, I now have to open the doors and close them again.

Please, if you're a developer, absolutely do not ever make timetables like this ever again.

 

This issue has been discussed - it's AABS' bespoke method of trying to avoid services being despatched on a red, but it goes against how every other route/train in TSW does it and if you do attempt to close the doors earlier to make up time, at best you have to open them again, at worst it banjaxes the sequencing and game over for your run. They need to just bring it in line with how everyone else does it, even if not strictly prototypical - but then neither is the driver closing the doors accurate for most trains in the game.

 

I see night lighting is also up to its usual standard (i.e., non-existent). I know even modern trains don't exactly have car headlights, but there's not a chance that an 805's lights on "Full" are only capable of lighting a metre in front of the train. It looks especially awful when signage just suddenly pops into view having entered the one-metre bubble of light at the front of the train.

I'm really starting to get sick of handing money over when this pathetic, uncaring, and inattentive level of development is what I get. There's not a chance a single tester actually sits and plays the game.

 

Loving the 805 so far - feels quicker to accelerate than the Pendolinos and looks/sounds great. Can't wait for the monster Trent Valley line to link up MK to Crewe and who knows, one day we can run this all the way to Caergybi???
Diolch

 

Maybe this is a question for another time, but are there any plans to layer the 805 onto the upcoming MK to Crewe route, or is the 807 the main attraction?

 

I believe you are referring to the same issue being discussed here in the last few messages
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...on-keynes-feedback.84525/page-21#post-1085693

 

UK trains illuminate very little so it’s not pathetic, uncaring or inattentive.

 

The Euston to MKC run completed without incident.

Now started a Crewe to New Street run on B2C. I made a deliberate decision to switch over to diesel power for this run. I visually checked all pantographs were down but the driver display screen still shows “Line voltage 25kv”. Surely that should change to “Diesel” or just go out. As expected zero traction sounds in the cab, which is what makes these trains so utterly boring in the sim. Even running with the cab door open and the staff side doors open there is nothing to provide any aural thrills. Just the track and wheel resonance.

Next time, can we have a bit of licence with what we hear in the cab, or choose a train that is slightly more entertaining as a DLC. Almost makes me want to jump back over the fence for a run with old Buzz Lightyear!