Do You Prefer Modern Routes Or Dated Routes

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by ben#1349, Feb 16, 2026 at 5:25 PM.

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  1. Dated

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  2. Modern

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  3. Era doesn't affect me

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  1. ben#1349

    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    I am Interested too see how many people would rather a dated route rathar than a modern one. For one, I love modern routes and dislike older routes (though I own a few of them) I really just like the new stock and modern day details. I also really dislike steam (awful take I know) there isn't anything about them that interest me.
     
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  2. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

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    I like a diversity of routes, and since there's plenty of modern routes available, I wouldn't mind the devs focus some more on historic routes.
     
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  3. eMAyTeeTee

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    Same, I like having a mixture.
     
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  4. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    I respect the old railways and their heritage, but for me the buzz I get when playing this game is what I ride and have commuted on IRL. That’s why older style routes have never appealed to me. I don’t mind the BR 80’s stuff as I fairly remember seeing that as a kid briefly, but any earlier than no.
    I would definitely like to see more 90’s slam door train routes in the game, they’re solely missed.
     
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  5. shinkansen_15

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    80s and 90s and everything modern is fine with me. Don't really care about older stuff
     
  6. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    For me, anyway, trainsimming provides the ability to ride and drive trains I can't in real life. If I ride a 170 to work every day, why would I want a digital version?
     
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  7. yansel#5383

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    I would like more older German stuff with all the different colour schemes and mixed consists.
    The modern German routes we have seem so samey to me with all the redness.
    At least the UK and the US have such a variety of liveries, as much of a pain it is in terms of licensing.
     
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    Because I assume you cannot drive the 170 in real life. But if you are one of the rare few who can...
     
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  9. JAY28

    JAY28 Well-Known Member

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    Loving the recent modern routes, but I always run dated traction on them. The MTU hst for GWE looks great but sounds…. Well, meh. I prefer to drive the Midland VP185 version as it just has so much more ooomph lol.
     
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  10. GWRKingClass

    GWRKingClass Well-Known Member

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    I'm the opposite, I find historic routes much more appealing. I like that it offers an experience that's impossible to see in real life often (the old Morcambe and Manchester Victoria/Exchange stations for example) and the rolling stock often has more charm I find. I want to like the steam era routes, but I think they are let down by lack of variety in rolling stock (things were far less standardised then) and empty timetables rather than choice of period. It would almost certainly never happen, but I would love a pre grouping era route at the zenith of Britain's railways.
     
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  11. locobilly

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    I drive them all for variety. I love the railway from when it first began to the current day. I drift around the various eras and enjoy them all.
     
  12. maccagee#4924

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    Depends.
    From a British perspective, Steam doesn't interest me, so anything 1970s onwards is fine. 1980s is my favourite, hence why I've been a fan of JT's work.
    As for Europe, I do prefer more modern, say anywhere in last 10-15 years as most of my travelling by train in Europe has happened during the last 10-15 years. For example, the only German routes that don't appeal to me are the older ones as they have stock I am not familiar with.
     
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  13. alert-agency2

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    Aren't all routes modern, think their is only West Somerset route that is dated apart from Transpennine roure of course. Has half the stations have either been demolished or rebuilt elsewhere if its Manchester Victoria to Leeds via Huddersfield.

    Or I could be wrong.

    Has you could state Birmingham to Crewe is dated with including Norton Bridge albeit closed.
     
  14. vodka#2734

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    Personally, I prefer the older routes. Probably because I enjoy locomotive traction. However, I do enjoy taking the Pacer along the Blackpool branch lines. And whenever possible, I choose the BR140 or BR155 for a freight train. I love listening to the clicking of the contacts when the throttle is adjusted or released.The roar of cooling fans and the hum of transformers. Outdated systems, controls often more complex than modern one-handed trains. Yes, probably, in real life, if I were put at the control panel of the BR155 or 140 on a hot summer day, I would hate it from the heat and noise. But we are in a game, after all, it should give us emotions that we cannot get in real life. But the old technology has absolutely emotional impact. And you don't have to wear a mustache to immerse yourself in this atmosphere.
     
  15. Cael

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    I mix it a lot, but I'd like to see more older routes and trains rather that the same-y new rolling stock.
    The modern trains are virtually silent, not much going on. Older train stations and yards are usually bigger and more interesting than their modern counterparts.
     
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  16. OldVern

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    Historic for me, every time.
    The railways were more interesting, not enclosed in a linear forest and with at least some jointed track remaining.
    The trains were definitely more interestIng, not just the obvious loco haulage but the vintage DMU’s and EMU’s too.
    For the UK that’s basically pre 1988 or at a pinch pre 1994.
    I feel the same way about Europe and North America too. Most of my rail adventures were in the early to late 80’s and that’s the period which piques my interest the most.
     
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  17. Fahrgast

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    The thing that I really like about computer games and simulations in general, is to experience things that you can´t in real life. That´s why I personally like historic routes way more than modern stuff, especially lines and trains that don´t exist anymore and will never again. Like a loco, were no exemplar made it in to preservation and routes that were closed a long time ago. A game or a simulation like TSW has the potential to make things like that experiencable again and virtually preserve, what couldn´t be preserved in real life.
    In my opinion this potential should be used way more often. I have nothing against modern routes at all, sometimes I like to drive a Electrostar down the East Coastway or a Talent 2 to Dresden but if I really want to, I could go to those places in real life and experience it, even if I cant drive it myself, it´s still possible to experience the route and surroundings. You can´t have that with the S&DJR for example, that you could only ever do in a simualtion like TSW.
     
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  18. eMAyTeeTee

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    West Somerset isn't really dated. It's a heritage railway.

    The Just Trains routes, steam routes, Northern Transpennine and Tees Valley are dated routes
     
  19. alert-agency2

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    How though Tees Valley is just the same today as it was in years gone by, no OHLE as with many routes?

    Updated stock mordern or old depending how you see them.

    Birmingham Cross City - dated / Modern - Stock outdated is mixed I suppose.
     
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  20. mortal1234

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    All era’s.

    I like modern routes for its simplicity and some of them for scenery. I like older routes as the trains are more diesel powered and they SOUND amazing compared to modern electric trains we have today. I feel some people dislike diesel trains as they are a bit more complex to run vs electrics. There’s a bit of a learning curve but you’ve just got to give it time and practice like anything that is difficult at first. Once you get the hang of it they are very fun to drive.
     
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  21. Double Yellow

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    Unless you’re a train driver you haven’t driven “any” trains in real life.
     
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    Tees Valley is set in the 80s...
     
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  23. Coolbarco

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    I like both. Connection, realism and variety are important for me. I like West Coast Main Line routes because I grew up on it and my brother drives on it now. I love WCML South. I'd love it even more if it was set in the 90s when I was a kid.

    I do think there is something to be said about the value of simulating things from the past that you can no longer see or experience, easily anyway (preservation societies do an amazing job). I love watching my son try and work out how to make a steam train move on TSW. He can easily get a modern train to 100mph, but he has to think a bit more with a steam engine!
     
  24. alert-agency2

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    Forgot signalling is also different between modern & dated.
     
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  25. Concorde9289

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    For me it usually depends on the route and rolling stock. I like quite a lot of modern stuff and historic stuff. I love driving the IETs and I also love driving the class 52. I love the Electrostar EMUs but I would also die to drive a slam-door 4-VEP.

    However with both historic and modern there are certain units I have virtually no interest in. 1st Gen DMUs have never really resonated with me, they tend to be quieter than modern DMUs anyway. However on the modern side of things I dislike driving Aventras, as they look and sound quite boring IMO.

    My favourite era at least UK-wise would be 2000-2005 since there were so many interesting liveries and variation, for example the transition between slam-door emus and more modern units in the south.
     
  26. vodka#2734

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    I'm not a train driver, but I have driven a small narrow gauge train.
     
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  27. samuelpower2001

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    I enjoy modern routes but jt have sold me on older routes if I am honest.
     
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  28. alert-agency2

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    Dating everything is something along lines of timetabling ie 2025

    Though unsure what that has to do with routes.
     
  29. ben#1349

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    The scenery and stock that comes with route changes drastically with dating routes. Not just a timetable. There would be very little similarities between most routes in the 80s vs modern day
     
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  30. Redbus

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    I like a variety but have voted Dated as I lean toward that more. JT are absolute life savers as DTG haven't done a BR blue route since TVL. Riviera is crying out for a diesel hydraulic version, or even an ‘ultra hellfire’ mid-70s version when the class 50s were taking over from the Westerns (but before the HST 253 sets arrived sounding the death-knell of loco-hauled services). Wouldn’t mind more steam if it was done right.
     
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  31. shinkansen_15

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    But the redness has nothing to do with "modern". There are plenty of other railway companies operation in Germany with other colors then red. It's more the issue of we only having DB (and one Flixtrain and Railpool) ingame
     

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