Feature Which High Speed Route Do U Think That Needs An Update? (reply)

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  1. tonisha#1891

    tonisha#1891 Member

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    Me France, the Meditearranian line is so short going 300km/h, needs an expansion to Paris
     
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    I would like to see remastered scenery for Southeastern High Speed, since the scenery is probably the only bad part of the route. Another extension would also be great, though that is unlikely

    A merge and remaster of Kassel Wurzburg and Main Spessart Bahn would also be nice

    LGV would also be good, although I think that needs more of a remake than a remaster
     
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  3. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    LGV is too short.

    I only really have it for the SEHS layer, but the actual route is appalling.
     
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    Yes it is. Maybe they could have done the same as in TSC, ie extend it to Lyon.

    But notwithstanding the fact that I'm French, I would personally prefer to see the SEHS extended... as far as possible !
     
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    west coast mainline south. the route is only a year and a half old but the lighting really isn’t that good, the ballast needs changing, the scenery is average in places and euston is still completely empty. the route would also significantly benefit from tsw6 features such as signal delays and announcements
     
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    I have also noticed when driving the TGV, that sometimes since TSW6, the power changeover just doesn't work at random. Restarting a run a few times sometimes fixes it.
     
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    LGV for sure, but Kassel to Wurzburg also needs reverb applying to all those tunnels.
     
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    Cajon Pass and Sherman Hill.
    Cajon needs the BNSF line between Barstow and Mojave added and the ex-SP West Colton-Mojave Palmdale Cutoff for more traffic over the pass.
    Sherman Hill needs the Harriman Line 3rd track.
    Pity we can't get new locos and rolling stock for route updates. I'd love to see UP and BNSF Spartan Cab GP60s, UP SD70Ms, UP SD70ACe-T4s, UP SD59MXs, BNSF SD70MACs, BNSF ET44C4s/ET44ACHs, BNSF ES44DCs/ES44ACs/ES44ACHs, UP C45AHs, and UP C45ACCTEs.
     
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  9. ben#1349

    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    That's not a high speed line
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Actually, given line speed is 125 on the fast lines, I'd say it is.

    Just because there are slower trains doesn't not make it one.
     
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    by that logic, neither is sehs. and as jack#9468 says, just because there’s slower trains, that doesn’t mean it isn’t a high speed line. the vast majority of the services i run on wcmls are 390s and 805s, so to me its a high speed route
     
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    ben#1349 very strange of you to pick out my comment individually, but not this one which is flat out not a high speed line, yet wcmls is. any logic behind this??
     
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    I really hope that the LGV Méditerranée will be remastered and extended to Valence TGV or even Lyon, with the addition of regional lines and freight operations.

    Apart from that, I would also like to see an extension of the SEHS and a remaster of the Kassel-Wurzburg line.
     
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    Didn't read the title correctly when I posted. NEC needs some major updates too. We should get the Avelia Liberty and CSX GP40-2/GP40-3, along with HHP-8s and the cab car version too.
     
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    Aren't routes where the maximum speed limit is equal to or higher than 125mph / 200km/h classified as high-speed ?
     
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    i’d love to know what a high speed route is if wcmls isn’t
     
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    Maybe ben#1349 only considered separate dedicated lines, such as LGVs, CTRL, etc.

    You know, for us French, a route like the WCML is really just an improved main line.
    Nobody ever considered the POLT (Paris - Orléans - Limoges - Toulouse) a high-speed line for example.
     
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    My logic behind it is that it requieres no special saftey systems. Similar to how I would only consider >160kmh high speed in Germany as it requires LZB at that point. I don't see 125mph as a high speed railway speed though it is reasonably high. I'd describe it as a regular main line.
     
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    Nope because SEHS does have a high-speed section. I've explained my logic above.
     
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    Your logic is therefore very personal ! ;)
     
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    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    To me it makes sense:
    Traditional signals/saftey systems = traditional main line.

    Specified High-Speed Line signals/saftey systems = High-Speed Line
     
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    Lines with a speed of 125mph are high-speed lines though.
     
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    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    According to who?
     
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    An extension to Paris is not a remaster and will probably not happen, at least for that route. What they could do to LGV, in my humble opinion, to make the rail scene that little bit more interesting, would be to add more TGV variants (Duplex operated by Inoui and Ouigo, maybe even the TGV reseau in the Inoui and TGV Atlantique colourways), and some static stock in Marseille. Unfortunately, there are no other French locos or wagons in the game so it would have to be freight only.

    I think after WCML has some seriously cool stuff now it is time to bring ECML up to the same standard with a new timetable.
     
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  26. WabbeLKonG

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    A few thoughts from mine here.
    I absolutely second that the LGV Med desperately needs some work to be done on. From all the routes in my library it does definitely stand out, but unfortunately that is primarily because of its visual blandness.
    is, as far as I can think, a pretty valid take, since an extension of 625.2 kilometers (wikipedia) is insane indeed.
    However there are so many other things that could be done to the route to make it shine. This route currently is the only opportunity in TSW to go beyond 300 kmh, which I think is one of its main selling points, along with being able to drive the iconic TGV and it being the only French content in general. There are no official stats, but I am pretty sure it does not count towards the least-sold DLC, even though the appalling scenery would justify that - while, in reality, it actually is a really beautiful ride.
    For anyone willing to compare, here are cab rides from real life and in-game. See for yourself.
    Avignon to Marseille (irl) - start at 1:03:34


    Marseille to Avignon (in-game)
    And to pick up on this, new stock would be fantastic to see. The Duplex is cool, but since it really is the only train you're seeing on the route right now, you quickly get bored of it. At least I did.
    Adding the
    An addition of the TGV Réseau (which is this one in the first photo below) would be amazing, since it also is a pretty iconic train and means the addition of single-deck trainsets. Further, the devs could combine its power cars with the Duplex carriages and effortlessly get a third trainset, the TGV Réseau-Duplex (second image), that is frequently used on the route afaik.

    2025-11-01_TGV_Réseau_505,_Paris_Est.jpg
    TGV_Réseau-Duplex_à_St-Pierre-d'Albigny_(hiver_2022).JPG

    Image Sources:
    TGV Réseau: Wikimedia Commons; by rail fox; CC BY 4.0
    TGV Réseau-Duplex: Wikimedia Commons; by Superalbs; CC BY-SA 4.0
     
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    It's a convention... that pleases those who haven't spent millions building dedicated infrastructures to go faster than 125mph / 200km/h ! :D

    125mph is roughly 200km/h.
    1 mile = 1.609 km
    The map isn't accurate btw. ;)
     
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    Ha, yes, I should have said “very slightly over 200 km/h” and I couldn’t tell if the map on the wiki was any good.
     
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    it needs more stops, yeah, and a KVB section :)
     
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