Out Now Czechia Awaits In Liberec - Stará Paka - Out Now!

No! The class 843 and 750 have suspension! So no lie at all.... Otherwise i can not follow this whole story.....?

 

I've been wondering about this, what's the point of the lengthy QA process if, in the end, everything turns out to be done haphazardly?

 

Did I happen to be referring to locomotives?
Do you understand what I meant?
I also underlined it to try to be clear.
The work isn't complete.
There's no point in persisting.

 

Yeah okay but what is the advantage of suspension for a freight wagon? The suspension model is to experience the movement of a train. You never sit in a freight wagon so suspension brings nothing right?!

 

For me loco suspension is a must-have, but wagon suspension is more nice-to-have

 

Listen, buddy.
Whether suspension is important to someone or not is a matter of fact, and that's fine.
But it was DTG itself (and not fpriotto520) who established that this feature would be standard from TSW4 onwards.
The rules must be respected.
They know very well how to respect the €40 rule without too many problems, don't they?

 

ok so after playing it and reading the manual its still pricey but its really enjoyable

 

I'm playing on the Xbox Series X and it's without blurry textures

 

I took the plunge and haven't seen anything yet.

Tbf, the routes I'm most worried for are the UK and German ones.

 

I requested a refund because of this, as I can't play without RailDriver.

Yet it's been a core feature of TSW for several years.

I'll repurchase this DLC when the developers have integrated it.

 

They add one thing and take away another.
The three-card trick...

 

I suppose the problem is that hardly anyone owns a raildriver (compared to the wider community). And if the devs (especially continental-european devs) themselves don't have a raildriver, they won't be able to implement it. And i don't think they want DTG to work on their DLC. And neither DTG would just overtake a project. So unless the devs commit to implement RD at some point, I doubt it will ever happen.

 

Never bothered with a RD myself, the cost is off putting and better put towards other hardware upgrades. I certainly wouldn’t see it as justification to refund the product though with the caveat the description should have stated no RD support.

 

Important to note that “rail driver” support actually means broad hardware support. I use the excellent TSC-X, which is widely available and I believe cheaper than the rail driver in most places. I previously used a rail driver, but would never suggest someone buy one now: go buy a TSC-X instead.

Once you use hardware like this, it’s near impossible to back to a keyboard.

Honestly, a sim game without hardware support is really a bizarre proposition.

 

Offtopic, but I sit in a racing chair and have no table, keyboard on my lap. Do you think the TSC-X is light enough to just have it in my lap too? I saw it wasn't paetucularly wide

 

I completely agree. It's like a racing game without steering wheel/pedal compatibility.
This has been a feature for a long time, and it's illogical that this particular DLC doesn't support it; I thought it was a requirement from DTG for inclusion in TSW?!

 

And so far no response from DTG about the lack of Raildriver/Hardware support, unless you consider a deafening silence an acceptable reaction.

 

@yansel#5383

The TSC-x controller is 40 cm wide and is made of metal, at least the housing is.

 

it’s pretty heavy, much more than a rail driver, but if you really wanted to you could likely put it on your lap. You’d need to loosen the tension on the levers through or the whole unit would likely move when you use them.

 

Thats a fact.. i use the TSC-X too with the raildriver interface software... a Keyboard is no longer my way to drive... its a shame that the route is only drivable with keyboard and it took the immersion of a really good ambience away..

 

but for those who have the controller is this a Red flag.... and i think its a good deal when DTG only helps to implement this..

 

I found the initial tutorial tricky, but it seems I hadn't held the 'engine start' button long enough. The 843 is great fun to drive, once you get ity going

 

just a useful minitip for PC keyboard users - if you just hold D key, it will increase BE braking force... if you want to use BP position (and this can be a little bit tricky to execute), once you reach the BE position, quickly tap D key again and hold until you reach desired braking force... arguably maybe the only case where this is a bit easier with mouse

 

anyway, just curious, do you at all have to change frequency on the freight loco? I know how you change channels, but do you also have to change frequencies here? and if yeah how

 

Back on to the actual add on. I haven’t reached a downhill section yet, but continuing to see posts on FB to the effect that the 750 can’t coast or accelerate downhill as if there is too much inertia or an issue with rolling resistance. Has anyone on here encountered this?

 

Not run into that at all, in fact oversped quite a few times downhill when not paying close attention , but....

Not an expert on the train but there are times when it seems like the brakes are dragging a little, i've been able to clear it using "brake cylinder release" #24 in the manual, i also use #25 "brake bail-off" just for good measure, though i don't know why it works tbh.

 

Well the problem is that many of us have been playing with Raildriver for many years ( in my case probably 20 ) and have real difficulty playing with mouse and keyboard.

Might sound strange but unless you are an RD player, I'm not sure you would understand the problem and why we're not buying without RD implementation.

 

Fair enough, sounds like it could have been "user error", then.

Unfortunately I still haven't got back on the route yet this evening. Probably this old PC but TSW alone amongst all the other games refuses to start if a Windows Update is running, just crashes after two minutes with a UE rendering message. Ah - looks like it just finished, so folding up SimRail and getting back into Czechia!

 

Unfortunately, I'm waiting for the god mod update.

 

Update to above. After deleting a stuck AI train and getting on the move, can confirm no physics issues rolling downhill on a 1 in 83 drop. False alarm, back to your lives citizens!

 

Not that it bothers me but in the first post here, it states that the route features Mastery but that is not in the release. Maybe patched in later or whatever but for a quality release like this I can't see too many complaining about it.

 

This is the consequence of OCD, which leads to immediate purchases, as if there were no tomorrow.
Something I personally will never do again.
The addon is never finished at release.
Better to wait for the patches to do their job...
(Assuming they do them).

 

Isn't it the same amount of money if you buy it today or buy it in a month?
It doesn't lose you any money.
In the meantime, not enjoying the route because of a couple minor issues does cost you in lost opportunity.

 

This is also true.
However, for some, certain defects may be virtually irrelevant, while for others, they could compromise immersion.

 

Just buy everything on sale then. By then it'll be at least a year old AND cheaper.
Solves both problems.

 

if you haven't seen it yet

 

It's a really wonderful route. I completed the trainings and one full passenger run and consider me impressed. The scenery, the trains, everything. And a manual! I remember the days when manuals for simulators were a must... Now it's something exceptional. But kudos to Vector for making one, even if they were not required by the publisher.

Apart from the general quality, one thing which stands out is that passengers on stations behave in a logical and coordinated way. They actually do board the train: noone was staying behind on a platform at a really tiny station, where it would make no sense, as is the case in so many other routes. They also only go to these narrow platforms once the train is already there, which is logical too. I had been under impression that such things are not possible under the existing core system, but apparently it is. Small thing, but it increases immersion big time. I actually found myself waiting for the last passengers heading towards my train even if I was already "cleared" to depart by the game. Great.

The only problem I have is the amount I had to pay for the route. And I do not mean it being generally more expensive. I mean DTG stickign to the outdated Steam default exchange rates, which mean that in Poland I had to pay equivalent of 49€ for this. I have no problem with the route being "more expensive" than others - for this quality I happily pay. But I have a problem with paying more just because I happen to live in a "wrong" country.

This problem persists for years, for Poland and Switzerland - Steam has not updated their rates since 2022, and even though publishers may chose their own pricing without relying on Steam "recommended" rates, DTG apparently can't be bothered. On Epic the price is much lower, but I can't transfer my collection, so I feel like I'm being punished for loyalty. This [creates underpressure in order to ingest] big time.

But as much as I want someone to finally notice this and act on it, I want to finish on the positive note, so once more: great route!
I do have high hopes for further Czech content.

 

Bei mir ist es dies nicht immer so. Meistens steigen alle ein. Manchmal (1-2 Haltepunkte pro Os-Fahrt) bleiben alle auf dem Bahnsteig und niemand steigt ein. Ganz selten passiert es auch mal, dass einige, aber nicht alle einsteigen.
That’s not always the case for me. Most of the time, everyone gets on. Sometimes (at 1–2 stops per Os journey), everyone stays on the platform and nobody gets on. Very rarely, it happens that some people get on, but not everyone.

Bei mir warten die meisten Fahrgäste bereits auf dem schmalen Bahnsteigen und nur die wenigsten kommen vom Hauptbahnsteig. Legendlich bei einzelnen Stationen (z.B. Malá Skála) ist dies andersrum (aber auch da warten Fahrgäste auf den schmalen Bahnsteigen).
In my game, most passengers are already waiting on the narrow platforms, and only a very few come from the main platform. Only at a few stations (e.g. Malá Skála) is it the opposite (though even there, some passengers are waiting on the narrow platforms).

 

I am doing only my third service, but I can see this will last me a long time... just so nice to have a route to spend some quality time on... who knows, maybe I will return to the Livery designer and do some wacky livery for both the master and slave units of 843

I am hoping that this gets positive reactions, and has good sales, cos I want more... fuller implementation of this safety system, maybe even MIREL in the future... I would love to see electrics, but even some familiar diesels will do

 

Hm... interesting. Maybe it's some ini file modification I have which did this? But then it would on other routes too?
Perhaps I was just somehow lucky (it was just one run, I admit it), but I was really positively surprised. Perhaps too early...

It was the first full run from the Journey Mode, not sure if it is relevant info.

 

a hardcore DLC by all standards

now I want an electrified route with ŠKODA electric locomotives, like these:

 

Does anyone know the Liberec-Stara-Paka region well enough to know what routes would expand out from this one? It'd be a good idea to make it connect to this one to start building a "network" and I wonder where the tracks go from here. What locations would they services? What locomotives run on them?
I think rather than "spitball" all over the map like DTG started to do, it'd be better to start a planned, Just Trains style expansion one piece at a time.

 

A lot of routes, actually.
030 continues all the way to Jaroměř and then as 031 to Hradec Králové and Pardubice.
Stará paka is a hub with routes branching off to Trutnov, Libuň and Ostroměř.
Železný Brod to Tanvald.
Turnov is also a hub with routes continuing to Libuň and also to Prague via Mladá Boleslav.
And Liberec is also a major hub.

This part of Czechia has quite a lot of railways, but it's all single-track local lines, no major corridors, and no electrification.

 

So to be clear, we have "Route 30" from Liberec down to Turnov up to Zel Brod then down to St. Paka?
Just going by that map....
So we can easily do:
1) 86 or 89 west from Liberec...although not sure they go to any large population centers
2) 40 that crosses through St Paka? (again don't see any large population centers)
3) Continue down 30/31 into HRADEC KRALOVE which looks like a major city, maybe down into PARDUBICE on the 31..which is also pretty big? Or just the 41 down into HRADEC bit it seems like a smaller route if the line colors are an indication...or both?
4) Maybe 70 down into Praha, which seems pretty straightforward, a major route into an even (larger?) city

I'm thinking 3 or 4 gives a better opportunity for more traffic and variety since they go into bigger cities on bigger lines? Either of them gives a solid urban hub to go to.
They can also then do a route connecting Praha to PARDUBICE the next time?

Just spitballing here.

I worked logistics for many, many years so to me it's all about supply routes and transport hubs. =-)