Dovetail Games Br Class 90 Q + A Thread

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  1. DTG Harry

    DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hello everyone,

    This is the official Q&A thread for the upcoming BR Class 90 from Alan Thomson Simulations. Please only use this thread for questions and not discussions.

    The preview stream is taking place tonight (Monday 23rd March) at 7pm UTC on YouTube/Twitch

    Maybe one of your questions has already been answered in our previous article!
     
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  2. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Why does this not layer into other routes on the WCML. Thanks
     
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  3. historicalduck7

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    why no layer onto other routes? b2c has the 170 pack etc, MAC has the tfw stock, there’s no reason an agreement couldn’t have been reached for this
     
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  4. OldVern

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    Has this been built to a better quality of finish than the TSC Class 745 which came in for a lot of criticism?

    I have already read comments that the sounds aren’t that great both traction and running. Any plans to buff these post release?

    Share concerns about the limited services these will have on WCMLS. Why not go the extra mile and do a BR Inter City livery version which, with a bit of licence and admittedly without a DVT, could have subbed in for the 86 or 87 on WCML Shap?
     
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    Mikey_9835 Well-Known Member

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    Could an agreement be reached between ATS and AABS to get this loco on Trent Valley when it releases? I fear the value of the loco will go down if it's not supported in other routes and it'll get boring driving it on only WCML South.
     
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    They have the plan to but the current update that’s been in the works for months has been in qa hell and until that update comes out they can’t add anything or they have to go re through the qa process
     
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    It’s still something that needs answering.

    This is far from the first time a third party product update has been held back by DTG. They need to step up and A) explain to us why they hold the updates back so long & B) stop doing it.
     
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    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    Complain to DTG not the third party

    hint do it on discord they actually look there
     
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    Why is this not layering on MAC?
     
  11. hecticjojo

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    Can you please confirm if the Class 807 IS or IS NOT layering into this timetable please.
    In the preview on ATS' twitch the layers menu had a greyed out selection for the Trent Valley stock and i know Alan and All Aboard have both said it wouldnt, but its showing as having a layer there?

    Will the Class 90 be available as a substitution for Class 66 services running under the wires, on any routes?

    The Class 90 has been confirmed by ATS as being available on the MAC with a post release patch/update, is this going to be delayed as long as the ScotRail Class 158 was for the Fife Circle or will this actually be made available inside a reasonable amount of time?

    Many things have been promised to be coming in post release patches or updates and either end up being delayed just over a year like the SR 158, never end up coming like the suspension updates for various trains or just kept being promised and then hidden behind another paywall (and then STILL dont materialise) like the SR 170 sounds.
     
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    Currently planned but they have to get MAC update out from qa before they work on the class 90 layer (if you watched the preview by ATS you would know this)
     
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    DTG is the one stalling things in QA..... MAC update has been ready for nearly 2 months I believe....
     
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    The fault lies with those who insist on buying unfinished products with more or less realistic patch promises.
    For example, I really wanted the BR 145 Expert, which however lacks active suspension (a mandatory feature on a premium product).
    What did I do?
    Simple, I didn't buy it.
    Why should I buy a product that doesn't meet my expectations?
     
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  15. hecticjojo

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    That's why i figured it would be worth asking when Dovetail Games plans to allow us to have access to that layer.

    The Scotrail Class 158 timetable for the Fife Circle Line was also done, ready and passed along by Skyhook to DTG..... and was sat there for months gathering dust before we were finally allowed to have it.. this was also supposed to be, was announced for and should have come with TSW4 but we didnt get it until TSW6
    We STILL havent gotten the soundset replaced on the Scotrail Class 170, even though Dovetail staff said it was going to be coming with the WMT/XC 170 pack... and then with a update that was coming to that pack... then they were coming with the Southern Class 171....
     
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    When it comes to things "coming in a future patch/update" i think it is entirely reasonable to disregard that and only consider whats available on launch - too many things are promised to "be coming later" but either take literal years or just never materialise at all
     
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