Route ( Sncf ) Ligne Bordeaux - Périgueux / New French "diesel" Route

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  1. Caravatt

    Caravatt Well-Known Member

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    Bonjour à tous! Good afternoon everyone! Today I want to take you back to France, suggesting something unusual... A route without overhead wires? Yes, today I'll introduce the Bordeaux-Périgueux "Line" (via Coutras), based on two axes: the Paris-Bordeaux Main Line (PO) southern stretch plus part of the Coutras-Tulle Line. We're in the "Sud-Ouest" of France, the Nouvelle-Aquitaine region; crossing two departments: Gironde and Dordogne. Our trip begins in Bordeaux and its iconic station; following Gironde's course, crossing city's port area and rounding the Dordogne conflux. From here, it continues alongside the great river to Libourne, entering the so-called "Libournais" (wine region), up to Coutras. There, it branches off mainline... And ohle magically disappears :D. So, it heads east, following Isle River course and its wide Valley. A fast crossing through the so-called "Périgord Blanc" and its verdant fields, straight to our final destination: Périgueux! From the big city to more rural areas, coasting large rivers, passing endless vineyards, rolling farmland and groves; dotted in small local villages and many iconic structures. This is what awaits you in this magic corner of France!

    GENERAL FEATURES

    - 130km(81mi) full lenght (93km/58mi cutting it at Mussidan).
    - Double track (directly involved), standard gauge (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in), electrified 1.5kV DC OHLE/unelectrified.

    - 3‰(1:35) max gradient.
    - 160kph(100mph) average, 220kph(137mph) peak (mainline).

    - BAL/BAPR as signaling systems.
    - KVB as safety system.
    - GSM-R as regards comm.

    Lines managed by:
    - SNCF Réseau SA (SNCF Group).
    Passenger service operated by:
    - SNCF Voyageurs SA (SNCF Group).
    brands:
    - TER Nouvelle-Aquitaine
    - TGV inOui
    - TET (Intercités de Nuit).

    STATIONS

    This route features 20 active stations/stops, plus several closed/deactivated.

    The calls are, as follows:

    ----Paris-Bordeaux--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    - Bordeaux-Saint-Jean
    - Cenon
    - Bassens Ville
    - La Gorp
    - Saint-Loubès
    - Saint-Sulpice - Izon
    - Vayres
    - Libourne
    - Saint-Denis-de-Pile
    - Coutras
    ----Coutras-Tulle-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    - Saint-Médard-de-Guizières
    - Saint-Seurin-sur-l'Isle
    - Montpon-Ménestérol
    - Mussidan
    - Neuvic (Dordogne)
    - Saint-Léon-sur-l'Isle
    - Saint-Astier
    - Razac
    - Marsac (Dordogne)
    - Périgueux

    ROUTE PLAN

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    Up: General view of the route. All stops are indicated.
    Mid: Bordeaux area focus.
    Low: Périgueux area focus.


    Network Plan: https://mmt.vsct.fr/sites/default/files/swt/CNAQ/2025-12/RNA-CarteReseau-A3-231225HD.pdf

    PASSENGER SERVICE

    TER (Regional Express)

    - Ligne 13: Bordeaux-Angoulême (20min)
    a) Saint-Jean<->Coutras, 11Tpd (6+5) [stopper].

    - Ligne 31: Bordeaux-Pèrigueux-Limoges (80/90min)
    a) Saint-Jean<->Périgueux, 2Tph/1Tp2h each direction [stopper].
    b) Saint-Jean<->Périgueux, 1Tph/1Tp2h each direction [stopper/semi-fast].

    - Ligne 32: Bordeaux-Brive-Ussel (90/28min)
    a) Saint-Jean<->Périgueux, 6Tpd (3+3) [stopper].
    b) Mussidan<->Périgueux, 2Tph/1Tp2h each direction [local shuttle].

    - Ligne 33: Bordeaux-Bergerac-Sarlat (15min)
    a) Saint-Jean<->Libourne, 2Tph/1Tp2h each direction [stopper/semi-fast].

    - Ligne 41.1U: Bordeaux-Libourne-Coutras (27min)
    a) Saint-Jean<->Coutras, 1/2Tph each direction [suburban].

    TGV (Mainline)

    - inOui Paris-Bordeaux (22min)
    a) Saint-Jean<->Libourne, 5Tpd (3+2), plus AI traffic [direct].

    TET (Intercity Night)

    - Intercités de Nuit: Paris-Tarbes

    Passing through (AI Only), 2Tpd (1+1) [direct].


    FREIGHT SERVICE

    Three different areas involved: City Port (local transfer to/from Hourcade Marshalling); electrified mainline (passing through/to Hourcade); our diesel line (some cross trips).

    Sectors Involved:
    - Aggregates/materials (Thiviers quarries/others).
    - Metals/rail elements (Chamiers site mainly).
    - Intermodal (mainline).
    - Cereals/Fertilizers (mainline/docks).
    - Petroleum/fuels (docks).

    ROLLING STOCK

    TER

    - B 81500 BGC (AGC) BMU & Z 56300 Regio 2N (PHD) EMU [mandatory/base stock].
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    Regional & suburban.

    - X 72500 X TER DHMU & X 73500 A TER Diesel-hydraulic railcar [possible DLCs?].
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    Regional boost.

    + TGV Duplex 200 (driveable).

    LAMPOIL

    This route would pass through the DTG process, the only flaws: passenger service volume (similar to Czech route) & length (can be cut at 2/3). Still perfectly enjoyable thought!

    STATIONS PICS

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    Up/down left: Bordeaux Saint Jean, the real gem here.
    Down right: Cenon.

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    A) Libourne.
    B) Coutras.
    C) Saint-Seurin-sur-l'Isle.
    D) Montpon-Ménestérol.

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  2. Caravatt

    Caravatt Well-Known Member

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    Up left: Mussidan.
    Up right: Saint-Astier.
    Down: Périgueux, easternmost point.

    ROUTE VIDEOS


    Bordeaux-Périgueux cabride, B 81500 TER trip.


    Périgueux-Bordeaux cabride, X 73500 ECS trip.


    La Gorp trainspotting.


    Saint-Sulpice/Saint-Loubès trainspotting.

    ROUTE PICS

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    A) Bordeaux view.
    B) Nouvelle-Aquitaine Maintenance Depot(TER/Mainline).
    C) Pont d'Aquitaine(1967).
    D) Grand Port Maritime(freight terminals/docks).

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    A) Château de Vayres & Dordogne River.
    B) Arveyres "Cent-Arches" Viaduct(1850).
    C) Libourne view(Dordogne-Isle conflux).
    D) The "Libournais" & Gironde's vineyards.

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    A) Our tracks crossing the "Périgord Blanc".
    B) Châteaux d'eau(water towers) classic rural landmarks.
    C) Château de Mauriac & Isle River.
    D) Water locks, other locals features.

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    A) Saint-Astier Works & mines.
    B) Chamiers Network Works.
    C) Charente-Périgord Maintenance Plant(main workshops).
    D) Périgueux view.

    + Others manors, bridges/viaducts etc.

    CONCLUSIONS

    Bringing this route to TSW would achieve two goals: France's return (after such a long time) and, at the same time, would offer a unique alternative to classic LGVs: a mixed-power (diesel & electric) experience! Hope we've move something, as this country results the fifth most requested!

    Caravatt :).
     
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  3. Yassine

    Yassine Active Member

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    Great to see a French suggestion with such a detailed breakdown! The mix of 1500V DC and Diesel sections is exactly what TSW needs for more variety in gameplay. Seeing the AGC (B 81500) and its dual-mode capability would be a massive addition to the game. Bordeaux Saint-Jean is also such an iconic starting point. Total support for this! :D
     
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  4. Caravatt

    Caravatt Well-Known Member

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    100% agree with you here :D A very balanced route indeed! With over 30km DC and a full, long diesel stretch. But the real thing here is service layering: short local shuttles, long regional stoppers and semi-fast!
    It's a shame that TER Aquitaine basically uses BGCs diesel or DC independently... :( Usually changing their supply mode at depot, if they're going to be deployed elsewhere!
    Thanks for your support anyway ;).
     
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  5. Yassine

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    That's a very interesting detail about the BGCs in Aquitaine! Even if they don't switch modes often in real life, having that 'Dual-mode' capability in TSW would still be a blast for players. The service layering you described (shuttles vs long distance) sounds like the perfect recipe for a busy and non-boring route. Fingers crossed for more French content like this!
     
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  6. joffonon

    joffonon Well-Known Member

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    As someone who's holidayed in the Dordogne a lot (albeit nearer Bergerac than here), a definite oui from me.
     
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