The DB 147 release has officially been delayed. DTG has announced this today. However, what I find intriguing is this In the announcement on Discord, DTG has stated that it's due to the 147 conflicting with other unreleased add-ons, what could that be? Perhaps the 420? Or another unannounced German Loco?
which is funny, isn't it? because yesterday, during the ambassadors streams, there didn't seem to be any problems with the 147 tbh, at this point I no longer know what or whom to believe
I’m never bothered when this happens. People would be instantly complaining if it released with too many issues.
It’s been delay central here lately. It sort of feels like they have been rushing to release all these recent DLC’s out recently.
Tommorow is April Fools. Which means that there could be a few teasers for locos, as seen in previous years. We could get our answer tommorow about what's halting the 147.
This is what happens when you churn out DLC after DLC in an attempt to fill the loot bag before the end of the financial year. We were fortunate the Czech route and Medway Valley turned out okay but there needs to be some lessons learned. Not to mention most eyes on the management side fixated on the Sodor release and we don’t know what resources that could have smoothed the rougher releases are still allocated to finishing up Metro Rivals.
Dont see why they couldn't release the stuggart update that we soo need. Then would already there for when the 147 does release.
I would like to know, if there was updated version of the route in the ambassadors streams. There are few missing signs on this route and they were still missing in the ambassadors streams.
They better not try and be funny this year. Not after this month of botched releases, delays and 8.000.000 patches still stuck in QA for years.
Presumably the ambassadors would not have had any other unreleased content installed during their videos and thus not encountered the newly found issue
The April Fools will be Tadami Line coming out before TSW 7. joking obviously. I like their little teasers they do. I remember the 380 being one of them.
Exactly. And so does no other player. So why postpone it then? If it's an issue with a future piece of content, that's the content to fix, shouldn't it be? Or patch it when said future content is about to be released. Common practice here. Any why link a big and important update for Stuttgart to it? Players on all platforms, especially console players, are awaiting it since it finally brings S-Bahn services to consoles. Questions after questions and no clear answers.
I actually find it really inappropriate for them to start making jokes tomorrow. They should focus on fixing today’s problems first that seems like a much better choice than trying to be funny tomorrow. Personally, I’m absolutely not in the mood for April Fools this year.
Not inappropriate to joke when it’s April fools day. That’s the whole point of it . I do understand your frustration though. Plenty of stuff needing fixed. Especially things from years ago that still haven’t been touched yet. But I also see this often on the forum where people want DTG to stop creating content and go back and fix bugs on previous routes they have made but it’s a guarantee people will still complain like absolute mad if they stop making DLC for a while to do this. You can’t win.
Sorry, where is this theory coming from and where do you read that I would think that?! That’s absolutely nonsense! I just think it’s not the right time for jokes tomorrow that’s something completely different and says nothing about the future. And of course I understand perfectly well what April Fool’s Day is; I’ve lived through it 40 times already. But sometimes you need to think for a moment and realize that jokes aren’t always appropriate, and that it might be better not to make them. Jokes are fine, just not under every circumstance.
Seems like quality control and product testing has just been thrown out the window with these last few releases.
The important bit that’s being overlooked by some here is that they believe the crashing is being caused by unreleased content, there is a big difference between believing something and it being factual. I personally would prefer that they know 100% what the cause is rather than release a dlc that it causes my game to crash and for them to be wrong in their belief
Seems like holding a release to fix a discovered problem is in fact testing and quality control in action, yes?
alternatively, they could check and double check that everything is working instead of rushing as much dlc out as possible before the end of this quarter
That's not the real point i will say.... It's more they are extremely late with it. If you postponed a release 4 hours for release is bizar I should say. And thats not the first time this month
For goodness sake there hasn’t been a death! Can’t make a joke because of a few delays, most of which were live streams. I don’t care if there is an April Fools or not, neither will do any harm whatsoever.
I mean that is how they found this bug. As others have said, you can’t win with the “DTG need more polish before releasing” crowd. Always complaining no matter what!
I agree. DTG, in particular, is in no position to joke around, especially with console players who seem to have borne the brunt of the problems resulting from the rush to release in March. It seems that DTG has too many irons in the fire right now and not enough resources to adequately QA everything before kicking it out the door.
Developers sometimes make fun April Fools Easter eggs (or even small addons). Delaying a DLC around April Fools isn’t funny under any circumstances.
I watched the preview at TrainSimPlay's channel. They played the BR 147 on the new Frankenbahn 2018 timetable and had to remove some AI trains at the end of the service because they were not moving, creating a deadlock where the player train could not reach the station (link to the timestamp). This is not a problem with the loco itself, but it is related to the launch. PS: TrainSimPlay's stream is in german, but you can make YT translate it to english or any other language.
They found it when they did prior to release, that’s all that actually matters. DTG make no secret that development and bug fixes go straight to the wire. If a bug has been caused by a recent update and been caught in the last minute testing then it proves that the testing and beta is working. Personally I’m pleased that they aren’t just releasing regardless and have the courage to stand up to the bean counters and say no this isn’t ready and we need to halt release.
DTG seems to be seriously cutting corners on this. We haven't had localizations into multiple languages for a year now, simply because they're trying to save money. And I would understand if they not spent money on translators, but the community does the translation in a couple of evenings, and DTG simply doesn’t want to include it in the release due to the cost of checking fonts.
As Oldvern said above, this is the direct consequence of releasing a bunch of DLC before the financial year ends. Anyway. what I personally think/theorise; Apart from the yearly titles, DTG releases will become less often, and more third parties will be creating DLC. DTG obviously seems to have their priorities on other things, ie. Thomas, Metro Rivals, and the yearly titles. To be quite frank, they can say all they want, give as much marketing malarkey as possible, DTG doesn't care about QA anymore, it's been broken, is broken, and always will be a mess. For the future, my prediction is that their DLC production will probably slow. They're working on two new titles at the same time, Metro Rivals and Thomas, they simply don't have the time they used to have, to fully develop DLCs, which is evident in the recent DLCs like Stamford. Third Parties like Vector Simulations, Firefly and Just Trains have blown DTG out the water in terms of quality, and with more and more third parties springing up, it's only a matter of time before TSW goes exclusively to Third Party releases, just like what has happened with TSC.
I think it's the result of to much concentration on landscape and environment graphics and to big timetables. I think around sometimes 500 services less are better than to cut out some locos and trains completely. We had that with New York Trenton, where it leads to the cancelation of the freight layers completely and similar at Frankfurt S-Bahn, where console players got a reduced timetable only too.
Assuming it will now be an additional week of waiting, i really hope they use the extra time and fix the small issues seen in the previews. Examples are the LZB, fix of the cab activation button light logic, Baden Württemburg on the exterior, etc. To point out a positive surprise from the previews, they added the on train end destination announcements.
To me the 147 is just another red box pulling the same Dostos we've been getting since RSN, but to others it's something they've been looking forward to so it being delayed last minute must suck for them. I will repeat what I said in another thread that DTG need to slow down with the releases and make sure everything is thoroughly tested long before release.
Not really, stuff gets delayed and still comes out in not that great of shape all the time. Mass Effect: Andromeda famously got a delay before its release, but still managed to have poor QA, and also terrible writing. I could also point to Nintendo and Metroid Prime 4, which has probably the longest development time of any Nintendo game. Yet it's probably got some of the most baffling design choices that any effort of there's has had. Particularly one of the most bare open world areas seen in a video game, and a very half-baked story. Delay's do not automatically mean great QA, sometimes it's just a sign of a really bad gestation period.
We were using the standard route as far as I am aware. But Not 100% sure. But I had no problems as I only had 17 layers as I didnt have all the German content installed. As to wondering what the unnanouced conflicting dlc was just dont get yer hopes up. Hentis.
Whats confusing is what they believe the problem is just doesn't make sense to me. "Unreleased installed content." How can you install something that hasn't been released yet? Maybe someone can clarify for me
