Loco Db Br 147 Feedback Thread

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  1. dtg_jan

    dtg_jan Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hello everyone,

    This is the dedicated master feedback thread for the DB BR 147 Loco AddOn.

    Please keep all discussions only related to feedback and provide the game platform you are using in any comments for feedback. Thank you!

    Visit our support page for informative articles and FAQs. Our dedicated technical support team is also available to assist you there.

    When providing feedback, please always add the following details if possible:
    • Platform (i.e.: PC, PlayStation 4/5, Xbox Series X/S, Xbox One)
    • Service/Scenario played when the issue occurred.
    • Repeatability. How often does this issue occur?
    • Images/Videos of the issue occurring.
    As always, thank you for your feedback.

    All the best,
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  2. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Train brakes are on fully but there is no number brake box see pic. Is there supposed to be number. On xbox series x, happens all the time and on timetable and scenarios. dtg_jan hi Jane is this correct or should there be a number in the box. Its quite difficult to gage the braking without the brake in the box.
     

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    Please follow this guidelines as requested when you pointing out something wrong...:

     
  4. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Just had this ctd.

    Xbox series x

    Timetable

    Half of layers disabled

    Clear weather
     

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  5. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure where to ask this so move to the appropriate thread. On the 2018 timetable what is the main loco used for freight services. Thanks
     
  6. Trainiac

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    -The train brake lever should move straight into the 1b position (based on the behaviour of other realistic locos br 145, 101 expert and 193)

    - Exterior track joint sounds are too quiet
     
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  7. DTG Harry

    DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

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    Has this happened more than once?
     
  8. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    It was my first one I done. Lol

    Done few more one more ctd but it was pouring with rain. It was a depot move into stuggart.
     
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    -LZB emergency stop is defaulted to the on position meaning LZB indicator doesn't show on the screen
    Edit: and the indicator disappears after a couple of minutes and when you leave the cab. Anything that causes the screens to update basically.
     
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  10. DTG Harry

    DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

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    Okie dokie - best way to figure out what is causing the crash is to turn off all layers and maybe do a run with just the one, then switch them back on or one by one after an initial run. Type of thing that happens if the hardware is taking on 'too much' and Stuttgart can be hardware intensive if it hasn't been driven in a while - let me know if that improves things!
     
  11. Rusty Bedsprings

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    XBox Series X

    Is the 147 meant to be subbed in to Leipzig - Dresden? It's not available for me.
     
  12. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I have it but its only on the expert timetable.
     
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  13. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Hi i done the first post in this thread could possibly have quick and see that is correct. Thanks
     
  14. jesper2805

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    Rusty Bedsprings He means you need the BR145 Expert to layer this on Dresden Leipzig
     
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  15. Rusty Bedsprings

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    Not impressed.
     
  16. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Its strange why it doesn't layer onto the normal timetable.
     
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    Wir haben ein neues Bundesland in Deutschland!

    We have a new state in Germany!

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  18. zsolt_93

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    Damn, its not looking good for this DLC, even with the delays, the quality control seems shocking, and even with the time at their disposal we still get only what we would have gotten had it released originally. No proper layering, still crashing on consoles, egregious mistakes that a checklist would solve (typos, inconsistent HUD etc)
     
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  19. cloudyskies21

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    Very disappointed with this DLC so far. On my very first service (Mannheim Hbf to Stuttgart Hbf - 0717 (RE 19501) - on approach to Stuttgart Hbf and get an out of video memory message - playing on Series X.

    While there seems to be an improvement to the blurry textures (didn't experience any during my brief play), the fact this route still suffers from video memory errors like before is completely unacceptable and makes the route pretty much unplayable - and a waste of money for a DLC I was actually really looking forward too.

    It's also extremely frustrating all this considering the DLC was delayed initially because of this? To conclude, the Stuttgart route needs A LOT more optimisation as it's currently in an unacceptable way right now.

    Also, just of note, I'm also perplexed as to why the 147 barely subs into any other route. For me, the only other route it subs in for a full timetable is just Hamburg-Lubeck (a route I like but very annoying considering it's not TOD 4). Would like to see the 147 sub for other locos like nearly everything else has done, namely such as the 146.

    Overall, DTG really need to sort this out ASAP. People pay good money to expect content to work properly!
     
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  20. DTG Harry

    DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hi there.

    I can completely understand why it's so frustrating to get a crash error. I'm thinking it's because Stuttgart is quite hardware intensive if it hasn't had a run in a while. Does it continue to crash after this? Getting a ticket sorted so the more info the better (but thank you for including service and platform details)
     
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  21. DTG Harry

    DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

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    For folks experiencing crashes:
    - What services is this happening on?
    - Are you playing in 4k or standard HD?
    - What layers do you have installed for Stuttgart?
    - Did you get crashes on Stuttgart prior to the 147 release?
     
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  22. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Im playing with HD.
    No layers.
    Yes but not as frequent had 4 ctd in last hour.
    Xbox series x.
     
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    Hi Harry, thank you for your quick reply.

    So, I've played two more services since and both couldn't be completed due to the same 'out of video memory error' on approach to Stuttgart Hbf:

    - RE (19509) - Heidelberg Hbf to Stuttgart Hbf - 1319hrs - DB BR 147 - Light Clouds - Out of video memory error 2.0km from Stuttgart Hbf
    - RE (19515) - Heidelberg Hbf to Stuttgart Hbf - 1919hrs - DB 147 - Light Clouds - Out of video memory error 1.7km from Stuttgart Hbf

    - What services is this happening on?
    See above; basically every one so far I've played.
    - Are you playing in 4k or standard HD?
    4K - Normally I play in HD (didn't realise I switched back to 4K) as that reduced the video memory errors (Frankfurt-Fulda in particular) although not perfect and still needs to be fixed. I will retry the services but in HD to see if improvement.
    - What layers do you have installed for Stuttgart?
    Everything, except the DB BR 145.
    - Did you get crashes on Stuttgart prior to the 147 release?[/QUOTE]
    Yes, very frequent and it's the same problem since day 1 of the route always approaching Stuttgart Hbf. The only difference since the initial route and latest patches are blurry textures seem to be fixed, thankfully!

    I really hope this can be sorted - what timeframe do you think it can be fixed regarding optimisation for Stuttgart? As mentioned above, the only major positive is blurry textures seemed to have finally been sorted with this route which is great. So, if the video memory errors can be fixed, this route and loco I can finally enjoy once and for all.
     
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  24. DTG Harry

    DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

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    Unsure on a timeframe right now, but crashing is a high priority issue so I've got a ticket with that info (thank you for all of that, the more info we get, the quicker it can be tested with the same layers/platform/graphics).

    Less ideal, but removing some layers and switching to HD might make it playable for now. But I've updated dev with the extra info!
     
  25. squerble

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    Why doesn't this loco sub in anywhere? Not layer in, a simple player-available sub?

    I asked this question when the first launch article came out and I see why it was avoided now.
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    thats what it layers into not much.
     

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    Yea very weird, the subs didn't show until second launch for me (PC/Steam). At least it's on Dresden, and I'm almost certain some kind soul will make a sub mod in a few days.
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    On dresden/leipzig route its only sub on the 145 expert timetable and bremen oldenburg only 2 jobs.
     
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    Platform: PC/Steam
    Service: 16521
    Route: Leipzig/Dresden
    The train thinks it should stop. Brakes are released and applying full power doesn't do anything. This happened after an LZB reduction to 0. It slowed the train down to a stop. Can't get it to move. No SIFA or any emergency brake application. So I can't move any more. Have to disable the AFB to get moving. Don't know if this is intended, but it's quite strange.

    EDIT: Resetting the AFB fixes the issue.
    Also, the LZB setting on the back is on LZB Nothalt. I didn't select this and looks like this is selected by default. Maybe that might be the issue?
     
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    I'm experiencing similar weird behaviour as above - some random long tone that keeps playing, and some inexplicable braking, be that when I'm still over a km away from the brake curve or the train slowing me down way ahead of the LZB curve and making me late into a station.

    I have a constant red banner with Zwangsbremsung on it.

    The MFD incorrectly flashes 85 after releasing PZB from first start.

    Also - the main page, literally the page you see after first loading the train, does not show any voltage from the lines, even though it's there. What do your testing team do?! How is such an obvious thing missed?
     
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    Platform: PC/Steam
    Service: 16521
    Route: Leipzig/Dresden
    The emergency brake notification is one while it doesn't apply them. It turns on and stays on.
     
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    The markings on the back of the brake lever don't line up with the base of the main cockpit, making them useless.
     
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    PS5 Pro

    So I tried it on PS5 Pro

    I don't have FTF, OBB(Semmeringbahn) and LGV installed, so I don't have these three layers.......

    I tried in Journey, chapter 1, first a trial training and then a service from Stuttgart to Heilbronn, and after a few km it looked like this, the surrounding Dostos ones were blurred right at Stuttgart Hbf and in my set the n-Wagens also had a bit of problems

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    So just to add it.
    I also got the ctd on Series X approaching Stuttgart Hbf.
    Service RE 19055 at 10.09 o'clock
    All the layers activated and on 4k.
    I never had any chrashes on this route since the release.
     
  35. robinnieuwenhuis1

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    • Platform PC
    • Service/Scenario free roam with IC1 expert coaches coupled up
    • Repeatability. Always
    Most of the bugs are the same also still present in the Railpool and DB vectron:

    - Train HV line not working
    - Switch for turning on/off coach lights not working
    - No NBU/ep betriebsart available
    - No TB0 door steering implemented or not in the right way implemented

    Such a shame, because in the Flixtrain vectron variant everything from the above works!
     
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    Another crash exiting Stuttgart with the ICE on the service ICE 714.

    It seems like the game is unplayable with this DLC. I don't know how its possible to delay the release and still get it out with this unplayable issue on console?!
    The area around Stuttgart forces the game to crash.
     
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  37. foggy#2817

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    Which system do you play on?
     
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    As I mentioned Series X.
     
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    Unfortunately, the performance is even worse than in the original schedule. (PC/Steam)
     
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    First run, passenger train towards Stuttgard, CTD around bietigheim-bissingen
    platform steam PC
    No other info (as it crashed)
    edit: retried the default service when loading stuttgart with the 147 and CTD every time 2 times, 2 times CTD
    I think it's my gpu crashing
     
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  41. rshifflet#2142

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    i can come into Dresden from Leipzig as long as i do route Nahverkehr from Riesa ? Are you kidding me ? No Baureihe 147 available on Dresden-Leipzig, but that 187 is available there that i also paid for ?
     
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  42. jesper2805

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    You need the BR145 Expert to enable the 147 in the Dresden Leipzig Expert Timetable
     
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    How do you enable AFB on PC? ctrl + r doesn't do anything, i can't find anything in the screens for it or a switch in the cab for it. doesn't appear to be a button for it on the lever, and simply increasing the lever does nothing
     
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    Incredible from DTG, £30 to buy a dlc that allows you to drive a £15 dlc on a £30 dlc. Incredible.
     
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  45. jesper2805

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    There is no activation needed. Select the speed and it will enable directly
     
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    jesper2805 Well-Known Member

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    This loco is not for Dresden Leipzig but for Stuttgart Heilbron Leipzig Dresden is a layer so you dont need to pay for it. Its an extra option and DTG not required to change something about it. You pay for support Stuttgart Heilbron
     
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    can you elaborate? i've got the lever set to 60kmh and the train is accelerating past 60. there definitely isn't a button i need to press to enable or confirm the afb speed?
     
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    No its not needed! And its not a cruisecontrol its AFB so when you go down hill you need to keep an Eye on the speed ;) you need to see the yellow triangle by the selected speed then its enabled
     
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    i wasn't seeing the yellow triangle, restarted the service and i must've got something wrong with the startup procedure as it's working now
     
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    I don’t like the engine sound, especially above 49 km/h it sounds like it was artificially generated, and it’s terrible in my opinion. At startup, the engine sound is completely fine and nice, but above 49 km/h, when it shifts, it’s really awful in my opinion.
     
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