Class 710 Blinding Headlight Reflection In Fog.

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  1. randomshunter

    randomshunter Active Member

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    Just did a night run on WCML South in the class 710. Everything was fine until the weather changed to fog about half-way through. Then the entire screen turned into a blinding white glow, making it impossible to see anything outside the cab windscreen.

    Is the class 710 using ToD3 lighting, and it doesn't play nice with ToD4 on WCML South?

    Are the headlights on the class 710 just set too bright?

    Either way, it makes using the class 710 at night impossible with dynamic weather enabled.
     
  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    tod3 and tod4 are the same. The lighting has not changed since tsw3.
     
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  3. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    This is not true. TOD4 is when the lighting changed to what it is now (from TSW3 onwards). TOD3 was the old dark lighting used in TSW2. There’s a huge difference in the two.
     
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  4. historicalduck7

    historicalduck7 Active Member

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    either way it’s getting outdated and needs another major refresh
     
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  5. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean that the headlights block your view of the track ahead? Like in the picture in the bottom left?

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    The class 710 is using TOD4 lighting and if this is the issue you're seeing then it'll happen on the Suffragette Line too. I maintain that it's probably prototypical but I've not had any experience on the railways and minimal experience of being in a car in thick fog.
     
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  6. owenroser19

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    I don’t think it’s ‘outdated’ it just needs sorting out. Everything is far too bright
     
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  7. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    How bright are the 710 headlights in real life?
    Bright lights do tend to reflect a lot in fog.
    What happens if you turn on just marker lights instead?
    I don't usually play in fog if I can help it because it's not what I consider fun gameplay.
     
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  8. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    There's far too much fog in the current game. It's not realistic and it spoils the driving experience, particularly at night. Someone at DTG has a thing for fog. I wonder who it is?

    I have it set to minimum in settings, I don't use dynamic weather and yet it still shows up. Very annoying.
     
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    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    I just figure it's authentic British weather =-)
     
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    foggy#2817 Well-Known Member

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    I only use fog voluntarily during early morning services. Light clouds preset + a light touch of fog. Looks amazing on TOD4 routes, with a special shout-out to Medway Valley :)
     
  11. JetWash

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    Couple of things;

    1) The intensity of the 710 headlights is simply just set too bright in the game, far brighter than other units of a similar type. Combine that with thick fog (the type you might see in dynamic weather) and it’s useless.
    2) There has been at least 1 mod out since shortly after release on PC that fixes the problem
    3) The games fog slider is way too clunky and is a sledgehammer to crack a nut. On PC you should use GodMode (you just should) and use a figure in the fog setting of around 0.002 or 0.003 for a light mist, about 0.009 for a thick mist and 0.01 - 0.02 for the thickest fog. That equates to no more than about half to three quarters of a centimetre on the fog slider. Needless to say, dynamic weather simply doesn’t work I personally would avoid it at all costs.

    I know this doesn’t help console and I genuinely feel for those players
     
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  12. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    God I wish consoles could use mods .
     
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