Route Great Western Express: Remastered - Feedback Thread

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  1. pendolendo#7123

    pendolendo#7123 New Member

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    Anyone else unable to operate the GWR Class 802 on the line between Paddington & Reading?
     
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  2. 14trainfan2029

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    I have this issue as well. Seems like the train doesn't want to move. This issue is present on the riviera line as well. Pressume the brakes are the reason why the train isn't moving
     
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  3. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I have drivin it up and down several times now without problem.
     
  4. pendolendo#7123

    pendolendo#7123 New Member

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    On timetable mode? I only have the issue on the 2016/17 timetable modes on the Paddington - Reading line, and can drive it on free-roam on that line as well as all other routes. I guess the HSTs got offended I was trying to replace them, and broke the motors behind my back or something, must be an age thing.
     
  5. 14trainfan2029

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    I think it happens more if you stop at a point, not when you are on the move
     
  6. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone done job 3c23 depot to Paddington. I just get stuck at a red signal deleted a few trains but nothing tried 3 times now.
     
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  7. pendolendo#7123

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    On the Class 802, on the Great Western Express, the train is able to run on diesel mode IF the pantograph is raised, regardless of the presence of overhead lines. So you turn the diesel engine fully on, and then raise the pantograph, then the train runs fine on diesel mode. Support said this is a known issue, etc etc etc, bla bla bla.
     
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  8. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    What was platform 5 used for at hayes and Harlington.
     
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  9. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    If that's the Bay, it was usually for turning round Connect services short or briefly during the 387 initial introduction when a Paddington to Hayes shuttle replaced the Greenford services which were cut back to West Ealing.
     
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  10. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Ah thanks vern hope you keeping well.
     
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  11. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I might be but after that update this morning this route looks and feels why more empty and quite. Then what it was done two full length runs and passed only few trains both times.
     
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  12. ElBriseto

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    I saw that the HST 1P26 service was fixed, so I tried it but...There's always a traffic jam between Paddington and Acton Main Line :(

    I don't know if this is part of the problem, but when you delete service 2Y22 (class 350) near Royal Oak station opens up track 6 fot trains which goes to Paddington, but those on track 3 until fast track to Paddington near Acton Main Line station (mine) to Paddington remain blocked and I stayed behind the trains

    I don't know why, but I think there's also the service 1D23 is problematic because at its scheduled start time of 09:48, the trains are running normally just for a brief moment, because afterwards I found myself stuck next to Royal Oak, like the 2Y22 service before and the trains to Reading were running normally before they got stuck too, I don't know why.

    Photo where I'm stuck near Royal Oak with a 166 and an HST direction reading camera which is also blocked by a signal: trai Screenshot 2026.04.16 - 12.30.21.24.png
    What's strange is that when I spawn in Paddington at 9:15 and leave all services on AI until 9:50 (the arrival time of service 1P26), everything works fine.
     
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  13. Puddington Bear

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    Today's update removed the passenger announcements on the 165 and 166. Hope I can find that mod again that added those before the remaster came out.
     
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  14. DTG Liam

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    I've asked about these. To the best of my knowledge there haven't been any 166 audio changes since the remaster release.
     
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  15. ksb#3865

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    Ps5 passengers still appearing below/beside footbridge in midair at Ealing Broadway after update. Also on all routes announcements levels still have to be reset every time you start the game , Matt said 2 road maps ago that this was an easy fix.
     
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  16. dal#7945

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    All the freight now only display as 1 minute job times.
     

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  17. toahac

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    Well.. nevertheless i can confirm: yesterday everything worked fine, today, after the patch, there are no announcements. Just tested it out.
    Also I want to confirm less traffic on the route in comparison to yesterdays trips.
    So, even though some things were not touched in the "patch", there seems to be more broken than before...
     
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  18. DTG Liam

    DTG Liam Staff Member

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    The 166 announcements I've asked about.
    As for timetable timings now showing 1 minute on the menu, it seems to be affecting freight and empty stock moves where a set Arrival time isn't needed. I'm not sure why this is now a problem on the public release, if it's a build error somewhere or a core issue, but I am looking into it.
    Same as the less traffic issue. There's been no layers or services removed/added since the remaster release.
     
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  19. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Ok thanks
     
  20. toahac

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    I misunderstood the "asked about"-part, hence my confirmation of the error. For further information: I tried other rolling stock and the announcements work fine. And I tried the 165/166 on Riviera and the announcements do not work there either, so it has to be a problem with the class 166.
    Thank you for investigating the issue!
     
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  21. DTG Liam

    DTG Liam Staff Member

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    Thank you for the Riviera info. That helps narrow it down to being a Class 166 issue.
     
  22. DTG Liam

    DTG Liam Staff Member

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    An update on these issues; The 166 announcements was due to a missing change from the patch today and should be fixed soon (I believe next week or 2). The UI issue I don't have a date for but a fix has already been found and is in testing.
     
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  23. toahac

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    Thank you for getting back to us that fast! :)
     
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  24. Puddington Bear

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    The 166 PIS announcement mod still works on the GWR 166, but sadly not on the FGB 165/166, so there's at least that for running the 166 on Riviera Line. Also it seems that rail singing got a lot quieter, I can barely hear it anymore since the update.
     
  25. Lonnie tutt

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    Now that this route has had it's remaster I'd love to see an extention to it. In terms of extending the Mainline I think Oxford is probably a good choice, or if extending the Mainline is too difficult then I'd love to see the Greenford and Marlow branches, and maybe even Heathrow. Although I'm still confused as to why the 387s haven't been implemented in the timetable.
     
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  26. li150special

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    PS5

    Quicl remark/question: I have the "Woodham's Phoenix" railtour layer (apparently using the JT mark 2f coaches) shown as installed but could not find out what train this actually is (playable/AI, what loco, etc.)-.

    Edit: I found it. It is a service with multiple parts run with the Class 66. Nice run.
     
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  27. randomshunter

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    Playstation 5

    Following today's GWE class 66 DB patch (16/04/2026), the AWS sunflower is still broken in both cabs. It does not light-up at all.

    Just did a run on WCML Birmingham to Crewe using that loco, and AWS sunflower did not work at all.DTG Liam
     
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  28. DTG Liam

    DTG Liam Staff Member

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    This one was reported and with the train team to look at.
     
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  29. randomshunter

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    Much appreciated, thanks.
     
  30. BeastyBill88

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    I'm also getting this issue as well it only seems to be on the 165/166 services it's definitely not mods causing it, the update broke the announcements so it'll need looking into.

    EDIT: Just seen the reply above about the announcements missing from the update
     
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  31. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to bring it up again, but has loading a save game on the remastered timetable causing hard lock ups been sorted, please?
     
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  32. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    It still does it on xbox tried playing a saved game. Went into it and just ctd within a few seconds.
     
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  33. OldVern

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    Thanks mate. Looks like it’s hit the too difficult box then.
    Back to my buses!
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Thats the only route it does it on so annoying.
     
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  35. DTG Liam

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    I haven't received any updates on this myself, sorry.
     
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    31 possible Layers on PS5 GWE 2017 show weird NOT OWNED notice:

    "GWR - Electrostar Services ( Not Owned )
    WCML South - London Euston to Milton Keynes "

    and that final layer is in grey and not selectable. All other layers except 1

    " GWR - HST Farewell Railtour (Not Owned)"

    are ok and i opted for 15 of them that i think together risk minimal dlc routes loading.

    Note that i do accept 2 LU layers from WCML South and a layer SN - West London Line

    Was the error triggered by my not selecting some items from some UK routes ?

    Must list them all here ?

    GWR - Intercity Services SELECTED
    LU - Central Line
    WCML South ... SELECTED
    GWR - Intercity Summer Services ... SELECTED
    GWR Networker Services SELECTED
    ...
    HC - Airport Connect Services
    WCML South ... SELECTED
    SN - West London Line
    WCML South ... SELECTED
    LU - Piccadilly Line
    WCML South ... SELECTED

    and freight layers that i thought were not adding another route than the above and 2 Mildmay layers to a total of 15.

    Now i struggle to type, so now i am feeling put out ... i refuse to type

    Although i bought the Rivet Electrostars for Southcoast and the London Commuter to Brighton, and although they have short runs out of Euston on WCML South ( 2 station stops ) what GWE 2017 says baffles me: the layer WCML South Electrostar is "Not Owned"

    Is this Not Owned item for a future GWR fully electrified ... or is it what really worries me: i run TSW 6 on PC Steam, Epic Games, Xbox and this PS5, but i refused to buy it a 4th time for Steam. Is that what DTG is reporting ? Is the issue here that on PC Steam THAT DOC is in fact Not Owned ??

    And why not refer to it as Rivet 377 ? Why the weird designation ? It is the only Layers oddity that i see. Why did testers not see it ?

    I did go and test that 377 do their little run out of Euston.

    Could it be because i refuse to pay full price for this latest Farewell DLC ? But i see no such Electrostar services advertised by DTG for that latest GWR Farewell DLC. Is it an item missing from a marketting list ?
     
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  37. li150special

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    I think the GWR Electrostar is not out yet. Will be a new DLC if I am not mistaken.
     
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  38. DTG Liam

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    'GWR - Electrostar Services' are for the upcoming GWR Class 387 pack. The layers were in the timetable as work had already started on them by the time the HST pack came out.
     
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  39. bene2919

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    Hi DTG Liam well done on an excellent HST pack really enjoyable. Couple of questions. What’s the percentage chance of AI using the new pack? Currently don’t see it happening often. Also, the route between Twyford and Reading seems to be the most choppy and low fps. Is this something that could be improved and or will this kind of thing automatically improve with the overall work being done on performance?
     
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  40. DTG Liam

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    Thank you!
    AI chances are based on the real values of 'numbers of that livery out of the total number of GWR power cars'.
    For performance it could be a bit of both between the route and core, although in this case I'd likely say the route. Either way if I can find more ways to increase performance in the route then I will.
     
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  41. Southern Driver

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    Asides the colours and a couple of new services has anything been improved on the HST?
     
  42. 14trainfan2029

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    DTG Liam well done for the remaster. Recently got the route for my ps5 and it performs really well. In the 50-55fps section in fact, obviously Paddington runs between 26-35 but that is to be expected and not concerning since i have all the layers at paddington on both xbox and Ps5. I have tried it also on the series s and it performs really well as well. On the series s, around 35fps which is reasonable for the series s

    Edit: Haven't had any performance issues on the the route on both platforms which is good. Have been enjoying and completing a lot of services and scenarios lately on the route and have been really enjoying. Keep up the good work and I am really looking forward to playing the 387 when it comes out.

    Just as a note, I have most of the layers on both platforms so really impressed, especially if it performs really well on series s. I knew anyway that the ps5 was going to perform well anyway as the ps5 performs really well on other routes. But just tested by doing full line runs on this route and it performs really well in the high 50fps close to 60fps
     
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  43. gwrpat#3475

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    DIesel legends.. service 1C05.. immediate service failure on game load : SPAD

    PS

    ps.. I’ve also posted this in a class 52 thread so please feel free to move / delete either.
     
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  44. bene2919

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    I know it was reported but DTG Liam do you know when the train announcements for the 166 will be back working on GWE ?
     
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  45. Strat-tastic

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    Hopefully someone with some clout is still monitoring this thread:

    I don’t know whether this is related to the latest updates, but I took a 5-car ‘165’ service which was going from Pad-Reading, don’t know which one exactly but it’s the one leaving around 09:30 the one which, strangely, you can’t do guard mode on.

    I got to Slough and happened to save my game. On leaving Slough the game froze with the current screen and sound playing. The controller/keyboard were unresponsive.

    I reloaded TSW6 but there was the circular directional thing that appeared on the screen (don’t know what it’s called) during load up which then stayed the whole time even after loading the game up.

    So I rebooted both console and TSW6 (no circular thing this time) and reloaded the run, but the same thing happened again but this time before I’d even finished loading passengers.

    I’ve not had this on any route/service before as I recall.
     
  46. OldVern

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    This has been an ongoing issue with the remastered timetable. If you save a game and resume, it either locks up on loading or exactly two minutes after resuming the run. In my case on all occasions it also resulted in a hard lock of the PC, unable to Alt - Tab or get Task Manager to appear. Only option being a hard reboot with the button on the PC case, not really ideal on a regular basis.

    I know that Liam is aware of this and by extension presumably DTG but whether, 1. A solution is being worked on or, 2. They haven't got any idea what's causing it is unknown. It's only the new timetable that does this, if you run the original GWE or DLOGW timetable the problem does not occur. I tried disabling various layers in the RM timetable but to no avail as the problem still kept happening.
     

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