Loco Br Class 90 Freight Loco - Feedback Thread

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  1. Southern Driver

    Southern Driver Well-Known Member

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    I’m sorry to say this but I genuinely don’t think this will get updated. Was Manchester Commuter ever patched? Sorry but I think they’ve had your money and run. It could have been removed from sale until fixed, I don’t believe it has been. Fortunately I refunded within minutes of buying because of just how bad it was.
     
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  2. marcsharp2

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    I'm still glad I didn't give this DLC my money. I learnt my lesson with the Nuclear Flask Skyhook DLC and the unreleased patches.
     
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  3. CK95

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    MAC received 2 updates as I recall, one to fix the weird ballast mounds & improve performance, along with a few other fixes, then another which introduced TSW6 features such as announcements, further performance increases & additional layers.

    In terms of the class 90 situation, it seems to have been lumped in with everything else that has been released in 2026 & thus isn’t getting any updates so far.
     
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  4. ToffeeKat

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    True, MAC did get pretty swift updates to fix (bodge) the two tracks that were too close together further apart BUT at alarming curves taken at 75mph which when driving is terrible, alongside other route fixes. The trackwork bodge was, I believe the only option apart from a hugely time consuming relaying job which would have also likely broken signalling too. ATS have treated MAC well.

    The Class 90 seems more of a "it's so anticipated people will buy anything" which probably generated a huge amount of initial purchases, before players noticed that it's actually pretty awful. The problem with the Class 90 is that it has fundamental issues that can't just be bug fixed, the sounds are absolute cack, there isn't even a braking sound.... If ATS are truly going to get the Class 90 all singing and dancing again its going to take longer than a couple of weeks. (and based on MAC at this stage there's no reason to see why not).
     
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  5. CK95

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    Yeah going off what they’ve done with MAC so far (which keep in mind a few improvements have seldom been made to other TSW routes without ‘remasters’ such as the additional features & layering stock that released after the route) I would be a little more optimistic about the 90 than other DLC’s.

    That being said, it’s done irreparable damage (for me) to their reputation as far as rolling stock goes, no chance will I be buying another one of their stock packs again upon release.

    The communication has also not helped the situation at all, the problems were phrased asif it was simply an incorrect build which seems not to be the case, so of course people expected a pretty quick initial patch for the loco.

    Then there were the rather bizarre comments from DTG Candace which only poured fuel onto the fire.

    Hopefully though ATS will pull it together, there aren’t many modern AC locos for the UK, so it’s pretty important to get them right.
     
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  6. Trainmania100

    Trainmania100 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting ATS hasn't been online on the forum since 1st April - ostrich syndrome?

    No intention of purchasing any more DLC for the foreseeable future.
     
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  7. li150special

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    Intrigued that the 90 update is not part of today's update. If it is only a matter of pushing the correct build, that would have been the expected thing to do.
     
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  8. ToffeeKat

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    not wanting to put words in Alan's mouth, but I think he said the following:

    1: A "clean" vanilla build needs to be established and sent out to players.
    2: short term fixes will follow to address gameplay mechanics.
    3: Longer term fixes will look at addressing the sounds and other gameplay issues.
     
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  9. li150special

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    OK, but I was under the impression that ATS had provided DTG with the proper build already prior to the original launch and that the build got mixed up at DTG. Could be wrong though.
     
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  10. holt.alistair

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    Thanks.
     
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  11. historicalduck7

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    a couple of big-ish updates since the 90 came out but it’s still in the same state it was on launch day, nearly a month later. could and hopefully will be a great dlc but it’s not up to scratch and the urgent fixes can’t be kept waiting much longer
     
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  12. gwrpat#3475

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    I’ve just got around to watching the video. It’s a bit cringy to be critical of others and then do the same or worse yourself. I’ve not seen any news on an update. Has there been one and I missed it.. just not happened yet… ?
     
  13. historicalduck7

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    no update yet, the product is still in the same state as it was on launch day
     
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  14. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I wish I never wasted my money on it. I was so looking forward to this dlc as well. You know something different other 66. Even the timetable for it is pretty crappyy as well.
     
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  15. Trainmania100

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    Think I did a 90 timetable service and didn't see a single 390 on the fast lines at any point, just a couple of 350s. Haven't played since. Very disappointing that ATS called for "feedback" earlier on this thread and hasn't bothered to sign in and provide an update.

    Patches aside, frankly it's a kick in the teeth. The community spend money on the product, the developer asks for feedback, and then offers no update on what's being done and what feedback is being actioned, that they asked of. The fact they haven't responded in nearly a month, to any of the feedback here, suggests they don't give a damn. They've got the money that's all they did it for.
     
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  16. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Feels like they got me money so now we just gonna ignore ya.
     
  17. gwrpat#3475

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    ATS is too busy releasing videos on other stuff to fix this by the looks of it.
     

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