Ts20: Legendary And Long-lived!

NEVERRRRR!

 

Why would they not release it when it’s finished?

 

They're either trying to murder everyone with hype or are too busy prepping random 4-year-old DLC from Just Trains for release on Steam.

 

I would assume due to QA testing, but a few of the last few releases seem to have slipped thru with very little QA testing....

 

Good addition DTG, keep it up.

 

This wasn’t made by DTG.

 

You are near to the real reason, be patient, it will be there soon.

 

Ahhh.. it's the man, himself. Just joined today. Welcome!

 

I'm generous with my praise. Well done to Mr Pecoraro too. Everyone's great.

 

The legend is here!

 

Can’t wait! Would you be able to give us an estimated wait time, or is it too early to tell?

 

Yep, we will just have to wait until it is released. Especially with a DLC this anticipated, they would want the release to be a "surprise."

 

I think they're getting to a point where people are starting to lose interest because of waiting so long. If they'd just release it already they might still capitalize on the hype.

 

I don’t think they hold release to build hype.

 

Not sure if you read all of what he was stating, or even read it correctly, but he totally isn't saying that. His statement is alluding to the fact that stuff tends to get released under pressure and not working as intended. But instead, it is being worked on to give the best quality, especially for something that has long been requested. Which even for someone like myself who just wants this thing released already, can understand.

 

He said: At least it's not DTG holding it up just to capitalize on hype.

 

I don’t think they would.

 

Any possibility that the windows can get some tinting on them, either before this is released, or soon after via hotfix update?

I've noticed upon release with the Metro north EMU's that they don't have tinted windows as they should. The M8 DLC did, however, receive it eventually, whereas the M7A for the Hudson did not. If that can also somehow be addressed, to give them a more authentic look to them, it would be great.

 

Do you have any evidence to confirm this statement?

With our busy release schedule and tight deadlines, there is absolutely no leeway for holding up releases to 'tease people'. We only have two release slots each week, on Thursdays and on Fridays, for one release maximum each day, with two games (Train Sim World and Train Simulator) sharing these slots. If a product is not ready for release, it has to be moved further which creates issues for products scheduled for upcoming weeks. The business works thanks to advance planning and it cannot survive with imaginary speculation of whether players will purchase a few extra copies if the product is delayed by a few weeks - this would create more problems than benefits.

 

Let's just hope one of those slots will be open for the M2 and not taken up by some random 5 year-old add-on from Just Trains that nobody asked for.

 

As I’ve believe I directed to you once before. In some regards I do agree with some of your sentiments. And sometimes it’s not really what your saying, it’s how you come across with saying it.

Also, I think the whole thing with the upvote/downvote argument is rather silly and. I think even without it, still possible to be able to express a disagreement in a civil manner personally. The only have gripes with it because of how ridiculously huge the icon with the list are. It’s completely unnecessary for it to be so huge.

 

I couldn't agree more. The German routes are extremely boring unless you're really into DB. As a side note, I think we all know who that "certain person" is lol.

 

Just because you find a route boring doesn’t mean that everyone does. There might be people who think the M2s and M4s are boring.

 

Just be happy that we can't vote members "off the island"

 

It's as TrainSim-Dmitri says, if you miss your slot and the there are other products ahead in the release queue then release can be delayed weeks or even months.

That said, I would suggest to DTG as soon as they know the DLC is fit for release and they allocate a future a release slot, they should communicate the date for release to potential customers. This way people are excited for the release date as it approaches, rather than speculating in a frustrated state and potentially spending money on another another company's product in the mean time.

 

I'm so sorry for expressing my opinion.

 

Well, what you said, did somewhat come true. The "Valley Corridor Route" from JT was just released. It isn't 5yrs old. But, no one asked for that either. Glad I didn't hold my breath for M2 this week either.

 

Aaaaaand I just saw, today’s release slot went to another Just Trains addon, as I thought it would. Just hoping the M2/M4 comes out tommorow or next week.

 

I know, it can be a pet peeve sometimes, but I guess there is a reason for everything. It will be released in due time.

I'm just glad we can have some Cosmopolitans in TS! Finally! But what about the M3s? All one has to do is remove the dynamic brake hump and pantos. I just hope both of those are child objects. (Mod and repaint ideas start flooding in).

So in summary, I can't wait for these things to be released. What is now next on my list is an ACMU or an MP54!

 

M3s would also require window tracks, because in real life they slide to the side. Don’t think the sliding would have to be changed but at least add the tracks. Otherwise make it an M1. Both paint schemes are available, the colors just have to be changed.

 

I always forget about those sliding windows! I wouldn't really mind it but it would be great if someone remodeled it and even let us slide them open!

 

Yeah, that would be awesome, especially in passenger view!

 

Yeah the aisle seats are terrible. They have no head support so your neck bends backwards when the train is accelerating fast. Nobody wants to sit in the aisle, and from a train sim standard why not have us sit by the window? Isn't that what every railfan likes?

 

I’m guessing today for release.

 

Hopefully. Since they seem to be hyping it though I wouldn't be surprised if they released it on Friday since that's when most of the big stuff releases. It's more likely that not that it's gonna be this week though.

 

I’m almost willing to bet it’s just gonna be another JT product being released today.

 

Thursday’s are their release day.

 

Looks likes they've been released. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1147153/Train_Simulator_Metro_North_M2_EMU_AddOn/

 

Just saw, extremely excited to try them out.

 

I hope the M3 Locomotive will be released someday soon on both games as a DLC.

 

There wouldn't even be that much to change.

Regarding the exterior, all that needs to be changed is the removal of the dynamic brake hump on the roof, removal of that pantograph gate thing on the storm door of the M2, and the sliding window design unique to the M3. Interior wise would just be some new chairs similar to the M7. In the cab it turns out the panto controls are plated up and removed.

 

Ooh my picture! Did you get that from my request for the M3 that I made here a while ago?

 

Yep.

 

could these locomotive be used on the Harlem line and is the Harlem line going to be released for train sim world or train simulator?

 

Yes, the locos would be on the Harlem line, and I'm making it for TS.

 

Awesome

 

Is the route for the Harlem line going to be all the way to white plains or southeast?

 

I'm doing it in Phases. Phase I is to White Plains, and Phase II is from White Plains to Southeast. Phase III is Southeast to Wassaic.

 

When will it be available.

 

It depends, I may release it in Phases first as a skeleton route with just tracks and station detail.
Release 1: Skeleton form to White Plains
Release 2: Skeleton form from White Plains to Southeast, full detail to White Plains.
Release 3: Full detail to Southeast
At this point it would be considered a full release.
Extension to Wassaic
Release 4: Skeleton to Wassaic.
Release 5: Full detail to Wassaic.

At this point I'd be completely done and ready to move on to something else.
I think the first release will be ready in about 2-3 months at most.